Angus Enhanced

[seedy53]

So I tried another bowl today with a capsule on level 1 and this was much much better. I suspected the glass might help to tame the initial heat and blunt the terp blast a little and it did. Very very similar taste profile to the S3 when used this way although there are subtle differences due to the greater amount convection in the mix. Vapor production is great and the terps are very pronounced which I love.

I think I can get to love this vape but I still need to try some more things with different strains. Really regretting not getting the cable because I suspect this vape could be excellent at lower temps. I can't imagine anyone using it much above level 2 without going through water. I don't think it's the heat but the terps combined with the dryness of full convection? More to examine...

they are out of stock on program usb cable anyway.

 

[TigoleBitties]

they are out of stock on program usb cable anyway.

Oh that sucks... wish you didn't need any special equipment to do this

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah that is unfortunate, I also found even the low settings with my original Angus fairly unbearable (direct with a hook) and would consider 356 more middling temp if vap has the power of large heating element, also sorta feel like halogen could be a bit dryer air?? Hopefully you can get it setup for lower temps eventually, but find a good solution and rhythm in the meantime @TigoleBitties

 

[Grass Yes]

You get so much stuff with this guy it's obscene.

Oh that sucks... wish you didn't need any special equipment to do this

It seems like they are bundling the wrong stuff with this vape.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Yeah that is unfortunate, I also found even the low settings with my original Angus fairly unbearable (direct with a hook) and would consider 356 more middling temp if vap has the power of large heating element, also sorta feel like halogen could be a bit dryer air?? Hopefully you can get it setup for lower temps eventually, but find a good solution and rhythm in the meantime @TigoleBitties

I think you had good foresight here because that is what's happening as time passes. The capsules are a must for me right now as they cut the power of the halogen quite a bit leading to a more gentle heating. I've tried a different strain with the capsules and the flavors are top notch. On par with the Solo.

I don't leave level 1 though. I just haven't felt the need yet. Not even the boost. I agree with you @Shit Snacks that 356F should be middling but it feels more like the finishing temp that I'd want on this vape, or close to it. My understanding is that this bulb is 100W for durability but is run at 50W in operation.

My only other reference halogen is @Vaporooni's build with a 20W bulb and that had more than enough range for me. I think it may just be a question of too much power so the cable will hopefully help me shift the range. For right now however the capsules are a godsend and they also keep the vape very clean. Taste has been great so can't complain there. I just wish I could savor the lower ranges longer before it reaches temp.

Photo from one of my first runs....

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[Shit Snacks]

I don't leave level 1 though. I just haven't felt the need yet. Not even the boost. I agree with you @Shit Snacks that 356F should be middling but it feels more like the finishing temp that I'd want on this vape, or close to it. My understanding is that this bulb is 100W for durability but is run at 50W in operation.

Yeah I think a strong aspect of the issue, is the session style heating, forgot to mention that... makes it even more of a necessity to have much lower starting temps available, too intense of a session with the power imo

I mentioned with the original Angus, I thought a smart design for this, would be to have it powered on running at a super low temp that doesn't produce vapor, so then it could work on demand to heat up to your set vaping temp with the press of a button, powering down when you let go to fully clear (much like the original Firefly's design)

 

[seedy53]

not judging but 356f is too hot? tbh- i've never heard people complain that level 1 is too hot on any vape i know of.
what 5-level heat selection vapes, do you guys use, that offer cooler level 1 at 356f? i am surprised.

 

[Rodney]

not judging but 356f is too hot? tbh- i've never heard people complain that level 1 is too hot on any vape i know of.
what 5-level heat selection vapes, do you guys use, that offer cooler level 1 at 356f? i am surprised.

It just depends what you are used to. I personally vape at as high a temp as I can without combusting.

 

[Shit Snacks]

not judging but 356f is too hot? tbh- i've never heard people complain that level 1 is too hot on any vape i know of.
what 5-level heat selection vapes, do you guys use, that offer cooler level 1 at 356f? i am surprised.

Well the original Tafee Bowle had a lowest setting of like 365? The new version has an extra setting so all the settings are a little different, it has been said that it is now lower, but zero indication of what the setting actually is now lol

For me the original five setting vape was Indica, which began at 340 and then had 356, 374, 392, and 410 around? I thought that was a pretty great range as a default, so yeah if they start above 350 that is often kind of disappointing... But again my point is especially for this high-powered convection session style halogen vape, it would be a necessity for me (classic solo also had a nice wide range, but now with digital displays they work really well at temps even lower than what they were ever previously capable of)

I use super high temps in other vapes all the time (tetra for example is almost always ran cruising at like 445F through water for one hitters on demand), but I also rely on lowest temp settings, there are many vapes that have lowest temp settings I believe are too high, some start at 356 which is decent but a lot start higher and I always prefer more that start lower (but it is nice that you can customize here like with FW9 for example so a full range is accessible potentially though I really enjoy dials) it is all relative so I don't think any broad preferences can apply across so many different vapes and setups

So it is not at all a universal thing, but in particular with this vape, yeah I think I explained why?

 

[seedy53]

Well the original Tafee Bowle had a lowest setting of like 365? The new version has an extra setting so all the settings are a little different, it has been said that it is now lower, but zero indication of what the setting actually is now lol

For me the original five setting vape was Indica, which began at 340 and then had 356, 374, 392, and 410 around? I thought that was a pretty great range as a default, so yeah if they start above 350 that is often kind of disappointing... But again my point is especially for this high-powered convection session style halogen vape, it would be a necessity for me (classic solo also had a nice wide range, but now with digital displays they work really well at temps even lower than what they were ever previously capable of)

I use super high temps in other vapes all the time (tetra for example is almost always ran cruising at like 445F through water for one hitters on demand), but I also rely on lowest temp settings, there are many vapes that have lowest temp settings I believe are too high, some start at 356 which is decent but a lot start higher and I always prefer more that start lower (but it is nice that you can customize here like with FW9 for example so a full range is accessible potentially though I really enjoy dials) it is all relative so I don't think any broad preferences can apply across so many different vapes and setups

So it is not at all a universal thing, but in particular with this vape, yeah I think I explained why?

oh i get it i like fully user controlled heat setting. but when i was looking at this vape i saw the heat of each level and new is was full session before i got it. i also realized a program cable needed to be bought.
tbh- i have the p-cable, but i have found no need for it.
i started at level 1 (very little vapor) and quickly went to level 2 for several days and then went to level 3 (395f) is perfect with a side bubblier filled with 100pc of grade 5, white CZ, 5.5mm and 6mm gems where the water goes into the bubblier. and it's like room temp vapor. anyway i was shocked that 356f was hot to some users. that's all i meant.

 

[Shit Snacks]

when i was looking at this vape i saw the heat of each level and new is was full session before i got it

Yep I was also well aware when I got my original, I wanted tasty low temp sessions, but then it made me realize I do not like session, however I actually much more enjoyed the Solo3 sessions than I did that OG Angus (which I also tried using as a glass stem load chamber and pathway too) so I think the low low temp settings are a huge part of that along with the all glass chamber pathway for the stem system... So I just think this heater, in this design, is way too much for me in a session style?

anyway i was shocked that 356f was hot to some users. that's all i meant.

I understood, I was just responding to your questions, even though they may have been rhetorical for you lol everything is relative

I actually learned about the power of 350F within hybrid convection a long time ago when I got Cloud Evo, could not believe the type of full extraction that could be had, and how vapor could still be so harsh... It's always a trade-off, I don't like to use that level of cooling with small balls personally because of the maintenance primarily

 

[TigoleBitties]

not judging but 356f is too hot? tbh- i've never heard people complain that level 1 is too hot on any vape i know of.
what 5-level heat selection vapes, do you guys use, that offer cooler level 1 at 356f? i am surprised.

Yeah, I vape concentrates in the Solo above 400F so I'm surprised too. There's more variables to this than just pure temperature and you can never totally trust a manufacturer's temp sensor to begin with so that has to be considered.

But based on my experience with @Vaporooni's 20W halogen bulb, I'm starting to suspect what the differences might be. His log vape temp control is analog and always on. With <20W to work with the temp rises and falls slowly. Also, I was using thick glass like Arizer's Connoisseur bowl. Even so, I would use max temp to warm the bowl and then dial it down.

The Angus has far more power at its disposal along with more rubies. I've noticed as well that it runs the bulb when it needs to in a very agile fashion. Maybe these temp swings are responsible for the crazy terp blasts and harsh vapor I would experience before using the capsules and lowering the temp setting.

I'll take hits as the Angus is warming up and those are very nice. I think dialing down the settings will help give it more range - at least for my tastes.

i started at level 1 (very little vapor) and quickly went to level 2 for several days and then went to level 3 (395f) is perfect with a side bubblier filled with 100pc of grade 5, white CZ, 5.5mm and 6mm gems where the water goes into the bubblier.

Very strange. I can pretty much fully extract on level 1 and I see tons of vapor. I could see how lots of gems would tame any harsh vapor though.

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Edit: Now that I think about it more, I end a lot of my sessions on the S3 at 358F (but occasionally go to 378F). I like a long, slow session and you can get great extraction at this temp as the glass conducts more and more heat. The capsules in the AE do this as well as temper some of the harshness. I'm seeing that glass plays a big role in normalizing the taste I like to minimize any harsh swings in temp.

I'm more convinced this vape can be a nice fit for me if I can program in some lower temps.

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[TigoleBitties]

A bit more testing - still with the capsules - I can handle level 2 and even level 3 when I experimented again. Not sure what changed but those temps don't seem unbearable anymore. I don't think I'll try again without the capsules though because they don't seem to impact the taste and they keep the vape clean.

I still don't much enjoy (for flavor) anything beyond level one but I see the value in getting a darker roast or just ripping it through water if that's your thing. I'm still kicking myself for not getting a $20 cable but when I do, this will unlock a better range of temps for me and be quite a nice halogen portable.

Halogens are so incredibly tasty at low temps that it's a shame YLL doesn't at least have a default low end of 330F or something. Session vapes tend to drift upwards in temp the longer the session continues as the bowl gets hot so there's value in starting low. I'll often start the Solo at 328F and used to start my AVLP at 330F.

 

[R1ng0]

Yeah, I vape concentrates in the Solo above 400F so I'm surprised too. There's more variables to this than just pure temperature and you can never totally trust a manufacturer's temp sensor to begin with so that has to be considered.

But based on my experience with @Vaporooni's 20W halogen bulb, I'm starting to suspect what the differences might be. His log vape temp control is analog and always on. With <20W to work with the temp rises and falls slowly. Also, I was using thick glass like Arizer's Connoisseur bowl. Even so, I would use max temp to warm the bowl and then dial it down.

The Angus has far more power at its disposal along with more rubies. I've noticed as well that it runs the bulb when it needs to in a very agile fashion. Maybe these temp swings are responsible for the crazy terp blasts and harsh vapor I would experience before using the capsules and lowering the temp setting.

I'll take hits as the Angus is warming up and those are very nice. I think dialing down the settings will help give it more range - at least for my tastes.

Very strange. I can pretty much fully extract on level 1 and I see tons of vapor. I could see how lots of gems would tame any harsh vapor though.

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Edit: Now that I think about it more, I end a lot of my sessions on the S3 at 358F (but occasionally go to 378F). I like a long, slow session and you can get great extraction at this temp as the glass conducts more and more heat. The capsules in the AE do this as well as temper some of the harshness. I'm seeing that glass plays a big role in normalizing the taste I like to minimize any harsh swings in temp.

I'm more convinced this vape can be a nice fit for me if I can program in some lower temps.

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I have the Angus enhanced ruby, I set mine to 168C, which is fine for most herb, and I use the water adapter mouthpiece but I don't need any water and it's fine it's cool enough without water and the vapour production is on a par but better tasting imvho then the mighty.
I'm very happy with it most of my other vapes are idling happily now. I do love the side bubbler that comes with the ruby enhanced and once again I don't like auto session modes I prefer to start low and temp step on my own. But each to their own so I have 2 halogen vapes now I have to say I think they are the way forward.

 

[RedZep]

Yeah, I vape concentrates in the Solo above 400F so I'm surprised too. There's more variables to this than just pure temperature and you can never totally trust a manufacturer's temp sensor to begin with so that has to be considered.

But based on my experience with @Vaporooni's 20W halogen bulb, I'm starting to suspect what the differences might be. His log vape temp control is analog and always on. With <20W to work with the temp rises and falls slowly. Also, I was using thick glass like Arizer's Connoisseur bowl. Even so, I would use max temp to warm the bowl and then dial it down.

The Angus has far more power at its disposal along with more rubies. I've noticed as well that it runs the bulb when it needs to in a very agile fashion. Maybe these temp swings are responsible for the crazy terp blasts and harsh vapor I would experience before using the capsules and lowering the temp setting.

I'll take hits as the Angus is warming up and those are very nice. I think dialing down the settings will help give it more range - at least for my tastes.

Very strange. I can pretty much fully extract on level 1 and I see tons of vapor. I could see how lots of gems would tame any harsh vapor though.

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Edit: Now that I think about it more, I end a lot of my sessions on the S3 at 358F (but occasionally go to 378F). I like a long, slow session and you can get great extraction at this temp as the glass conducts more and more heat. The capsules in the AE do this as well as temper some of the harshness. I'm seeing that glass plays a big role in normalizing the taste I like to minimize any harsh swings in temp.

I'm more convinced this vape can be a nice fit for me if I can program in some lower temps.

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I didn't know this vape could get such dark AVB. I thought it would be like a Mighty. Seems much more powerful. Is the vapour thick? If you want it to be?

 

[TigoleBitties]

I have the Angus enhanced ruby, I set mine to 168C, which is fine for most herb, and I use the water adapter mouthpiece but I don't need any water and it's fine it's cool enough without water and the vapour production is on a par but better tasting imvho then the mighty.
I'm very happy with it most of my other vapes are idling happily now. I do love the side bubbler that comes with the ruby enhanced and once again I don't like auto session modes I prefer to start low and temp step on my own. But each to their own so I have 2 halogen vapes now I have to say I think they are the way forward.

Ah that's a perfect temp, 168C/334F which is right around the values I like. I wish I had that low end because even the 180C of default level one is nice. I'll get the cable like I should have in the first place. I enjoy temp stepping as well.

I didn't know this vape could get such dark AVB. I thought it would be like a Mighty. Seems much more powerful. Is the vapour thick? If you want it to be?

Yeah you can get really thick vapor if you want it. I'm getting impressively thick vapor even on level 1, and that's with capsules. I think @kokolokokolokon has some nice vids in this thread. It is restricted by its limited power levels for me right now. Once I fix that then it will be one hell of a tasty portable halogen vape.

Edit: I just discovered the the AE WPA seems to work perfectly as a dynavap tip (8mm) WPA as well. Sweet.

 

[seedy53]

Ah that's a perfect temp, 168C/334F which is right around the values I like. I wish I had that low end because even the 180C of default level one is nice. I'll get the cable like I should have in the first place. I enjoy temp stepping as well.


Yeah you can get really thick vapor if you want it. I'm getting impressively thick vapor even on level 1, and that's with capsules. I think @kokolokokolokon has some nice vids in this thread. It is restricted by its limited power levels for me right now. Once I fix that then it will be one hell of a tasty portable halogen vape.

Edit: I just discovered the the AE WPA seems to work perfectly as a dynavap tip (8mm) WPA as well. Sweet.

messing with air flow valve at bottom to make vapor cooler but will make vapor amt less thick

 

[TigoleBitties]

messing with air flow valve at bottom to make vapor cooler but will make vapor amt less thick

I've got it wide open right now.

 

[chillAtGVC]

@TigoleBitties So with a Solo 3 already in hand, would you buy the AE again? Is it different enough to be, well, interesting to own.

 

[seedy53]

looks like the program cable is back in stock, looks like it's about a 12day delivery time-

Angus Enhanced 5 temperatures customization Tool at yllvapes.com​

$9.00 plus freight expense

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How to customize Angus Enhanced 5 Temperature settings

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[TigoleBitties]

@TigoleBitties So with a Solo 3 already in hand, would you buy the AE again? Is it different enough to be, well, interesting to own.

Yeah good question... I've been thinking about the answer myself and I think yes.... but it's debatable for sure.

I'm a sucker for flavor and I think halogens are a special breed of heater. Very very flavorful somehow from the physics of how they heat the flower. Radiant heat from the light, convection off the hot glass and eventually conduction as the bowl or screen heats up. It think if I had to tell the difference between the S3 vapor and the Angus it'd be tough blindfolded but there is a difference. The terps and the sting of them in my nose and throat are just a bit punchier with a halogen.

Sometimes it comes across as tastier and sometimes it just seems harsh and dry if the halogen power level is too high I'm finding out. On the low temps however, it's a star. If I had to have only one vape it'd be the S3 because I feel it's more versatile with full temp control and on-demand mode, stays cleaner and the taste is top tier but one could argue the AE is tastier.

 

[chillAtGVC]

I am with you on the flavour aspect. That is a large part of my enjoyment of vaping.

 

[TigoleBitties]

looks like the program cable is back in stock, looks like it's about a 12day delivery time-

Angus Enhanced 5 temperatures customization Tool at yllvapes.com​

$9.00 plus freight expense

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How to customize Angus Enhanced 5 Temperature settings

Download the program: CLICK TO DOWNLOAD Open the program: The software file can be downloaded here once the Angus Enhanced production is ready this month. If the operation is incorrect, there will be corresponding prompts in the prompt message. Notes: Please make the highest temperature under...

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Thanks @seedy53. I was going to order from SoothingVapours as it's a Canadian shop but they're closed for inventory until the 18th. Might just wait if price/time difference is better.

Thanks for the instructions

I am with you on the flavour aspect. That is a large part of my enjoyment of vaping.

Flavor is huge. I need to have a bit of flavor even if I'm just looking to get high quick. It always amazes me how tasty the different strains are. I just tried one in the prrl Neo with the terp surfer called Pink Gas and it had so much flavor. Amazing.

Btw, I think the two tastiest vapes I have ever used may just be the Prrl Neo (with terp surfer) and @Vaporooni's desktop halogen. Maybe the AE will match them when I get the programming cable going.

 

[chillAtGVC]

I checked prices and SoothingVapours is significantly cheaper. Yay Canada!

 

[seedy53]

I checked prices and SoothingVapours is significantly cheaper. Yay Canada!

$19.99 at SV and $9.99 at yllvapes. both charge freight under $50. how could it be cheaper at sv for pro-cable?