AirVape Legacy Pro

JustAnotherCritic

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molicel p28a is great for any vape. 30b are high cause they are the new kid on the block. i see the for 5 or 6 usd online often
Yeah, but shipping batteries to Canada costs $25-$35 USD, so unless I'm buying a bunch then it's pretty pricey. I can get the p30b for $10 per (although they are currently out of stock), but the shipping is what kills it.
 
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seedy53

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Yeah, but shipping batteries to Canada costs $25-$35 USD, so unless I'm buying a bunch then it's pretty pricey. I can get the p30b for $10 per (although they are currently out of stock), but the shipping is what kills it.
smooth vapors does not sell them, no local stores?
 
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Pukka

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Yeah, but shipping batteries to Canada costs $25-$35 USD, so unless I'm buying a bunch then it's pretty pricey. I can get the p30b for $10 per (although they are currently out of stock), but the shipping is what kills it.
Planet of the Vapes, Canada branch (ca.planetofthevapes.com) sells P28A's for <15 cdn. Never been a customer, so YMMV.
 

seedy53

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in case no body knows this the airvape legacy pro's steampunk model is no longer being manufactured and they have emptied their inventory.
the steampunk was a limited special creation and there will be no more made. if you own one, you got a piece of history and a classic.
i got mine and still very pleased, i did, over a year and 1/2 later. runs like a top
 
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Andjoe

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in case no body knows this the airvape legacy pro's steampunk model is no longer being manufactured and they have emptied their inventory.
the steampunk was a limited special creation and there will be no more made. if you own one, you got a piece of history and a classic.
i got mine and still very pleased, i did, over a year and 1/2 later. runs like a top
Hopefully this also means we have a new device debuting sooner than later.
 
Ok, I will believe that you weren't aware of its existence. It's hard to remove and difficult to tell that it's not just part of the lid. Also, resin seems to help adhere it in place.
Yeahhhh, so, I went and replaced the gasket, and man, I've been absolutely roasted for the last three nights. I just got the glass bubbler. Great accessory, but looking forward to trying it on a bong soon.

How do people like the combo?
 
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RTbar

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MY AVLP has been sitting in the drawer for months unfortunately. It's great when it's new but man you guys weren't lying about the maintenance. It's too clogged to use and it's far too cumbersome to clean with that stupid screen falling out all the time. The accessories all broke on me, including the capsules and the plunger tool. The capsules are impossible to piece together again after a few uses. On-demand mode is pointless tbh. Very disappointed and I'm back to using my dyna.
 

seedy53

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MY AVLP has been sitting in the drawer for months unfortunately. It's great when it's new but man you guys weren't lying about the maintenance. It's too clogged to use and it's far too cumbersome to clean with that stupid screen falling out all the time. The accessories all broke on me, including the capsules and the plunger tool. The capsules are impossible to piece together again after a few uses. On-demand mode is pointless tbh. Very disappointed and I'm back to using my dyna.
sounds like you fucked it up by not taking the time to maintain it. i guess dyna ted vapes are easy not to keep clean and dyna well still preform well. please i'm not judging. it's your choice, but it's not fair to blame avlp design for it not cleaning it correctly by user or by not take caring of the avlp's accessories.
got 2 units, 1 for 2.5 yeas, the other almost 2 years. they run and look good. sorry but avlp is a fine vape unit and if taken care of, will work and last for several years.


legacy pro 2 will not be released until next year, positively confirmed. no definitive date has been picked
 
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RTbar

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sounds like you fucked it up by not taking the time to maintain it. i guess dyna ted vapes are easy not to keep clean and dyna well still preform well. please i'm not judging. it's your choice, but it's not fair to blame avlp design for it not cleaning it correctly by user or by not take caring of the avlp's accessories.
got 2 units, 1 for 2.5 yeas, the other almost 2 years. they run and look good. sorry but avlp is a fine vape unit and if taken care of, will work and last for several years.


legacy pro 2 will not be released until next year, positively confirmed. no definitive date has been picked
I get that, my point is it's too difficult to keep functional without an unreasonable amount of maintenance compared to most vapes. It's not really my fault either when the whole gasket/screen combo falls out when I'm at work because the design is horrible, rendering the vape worthless,
 

seedy53

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I get that, my point is it's too difficult to keep functional without an unreasonable amount of maintenance compared to most vapes. It's not really my fault either when the whole gasket/screen combo falls out when I'm at work because the design is horrible, rendering the vape worthless,
everyone has an opinion and sorry you think badly of the avlp. glad to say many thousands of avlp owners think it's a great design and a sweet vapor producing vape.
 
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MHL

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I love it. It's only a step behind the TM2 and Firewood9 for me.

But it is a pain in the arse to clean, I'll give you that. The bits around the loading bowl are so fiddley. There are definite improvements to be made in this area. I am never confident I will be able to get them back in. Maybe cos I'm an old man who needs bottle bottom specs though. :hmm:

Using capsules helps massively, and it's one of the best capsule implementation I've come across.
 

budski

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Absolutely a fan of the dose caps! by far the easiest to refill (get the loading tool!) and best tasting capsules out there, also work in a TM2, or NEO. Using caps lets you 86 the fiddly bit intake screen and gasket as well as the adjusta bowl disc that clogs up the tiny holes, sooo much better airflow using caps w/out the fiddly bits that require extra cleaning. An ISO wipe every few bowls and maybe deep clean once a month. I've put 2 bowls of loose herb thru 1 of my 3 avlps (100's w/caps) and instantly understood why peeps bitch about the cleaning; never again, use caps, fire the maid.
ps, I can swap out a fresh cap in the dark at a concert in seconds w/out even looking at it!
 
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squeaks

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My opinion is the cleaning is manageable. But there was a learning curve. I was thinking about making videos of my usage, mainly the loading and cleaning. Maybe people have and they get buried but I couldn't find any. But in the meantime, some suggestions:
  • Use a rolling tray with magnetic lid to keep mess and tools contained.
  • Get a refillable needle tip dropper bottle for isopropyl. They can be a pain to fill. I roll a piece of paper so there is a small hole at one end to put into the dropper bottle. Sometimes I use the wrapper for an iso pad and cut the corners.
  • Use two small glass jars with lids. Empty the cap of used material (AVB) into the small one. When needed, empty the small jar one into a large one.
  • I tear strips of 1-2" wide paper towel and place 2-3 drops of isopropyl on it. I place the cap lid onto it, lightly move it, then flip it and repeat, sometimes using a fingernail to get into the edge. Then I clean the inside of the cap, I don't normally bother with the outside.
  • I lay a clean part of paper towel onto the airpath disc, then 2-3 drops of isopropyl onto the towel, then press onto the disc. I consider this step semi-optional. The disc clogs so easily and I question it's usefulness for airflow. I also do not know if perhaps the holes clear themselves when heated and the user inhales through the device. The airpath disc seems to clog the holes progressively over 2-4 sessions.
That is my light cleaning routine. I do it now between every use. When I first started, I didn't clean it until I was using the little metal poker to scrape some heavy resin in the caps. Paper towel, isopropyl, and a quick wipe works much better.

  • To clean the glass airpath, I use a RAW loader wooden poker tool because the diameter is perfect, tear a piece of paper towel from the end of the 1-2" strip, wrap it on the stick, then partially insert, dribble some iso on it, then push it through and out the dirtier end.
  • I don't think cleaning under the airpath filter is often needed. I will just gently wipe it and the area around the oven with iso. If I do want to clean it, I carefully pry it with the poker. Drop it onto paper towel and clean.
  • To clean the hard to reach area under the airpath filter to the gasket at the glass airpath, I remove the glass airpath, take a q-tip with iso and break the shaft, and insert it through the gasket until it reaches the bottom, twist a bit, then remove. This can be dicey because bits of cotton have gotten stuck before. In which case I've used 'specialty' pointy tweezers to remove. I think the q-tips that came in the cleaning kit are lint-free q-tips, which I would prefer, but I also have the tweezers.
  • To clean the mouthpiece, I shove paper towel folded a couple times with iso in with the 'packing tool'.
  • To clean the area under the mouthpiece, I might push a piece of paper towel lightly wrapped around the cleaning part of the dosing tool. Or, drip some iso from the top and catch it at the rubber seal (with the glass airpath removed).
  • To thoroughly clean the airpath disc, I unscrew to remove it. Place it on a paper towel flat side down, place 5 or so drops of iso through the holes. Then wipe the flat side. Next I'll shove a bit of paper towel into the hole area, wet with iso, then drag it 360 degrees around the hole. Then I turn the disc on it's side and clean the outside edge. At this point there is still some clogged holes usually. I take the bristle tool and poke it through all the holes from the flat side. Finally I may do another wipe of iso to remove disloged material.
  • Lasty, I wipe the rubber gasket with towel dampened with iso. Finally, I clean the chamber bowl with a clean area of towel dampened with iso.

Cleaning the airpath disc/oven lid... Some people suggest removing the airpath disc entirely. I don't necessarily agree but there are pros and cons and the device still works. However, I will reiterate, that when you inhale, the dosing capsule moves in the direction of the airpath disc, in other words it lifts off the bottom of the oven and impacts the disc. Allowing it to move further, and removing the restrictions of the disc, cause unknown changes. Like does less air flow through the cap? Also, the disc forms the top of the oven chamber, allowing heat to build up between inhales. I tried to learn a little airflow engineering but came up short. For instance, under the mouthpiece is a tiny hole about the size of the glass airpath, which opens up into a large volume around the mouthpiece filter, then is smaller at the mouthpiece tip. It seems strange to me, where flow area is larger, density would go down, flow rate would decrease. Because I don't notice much difference with or without the disc as far as draw strength, this could indicate how little of a function it performs for airflow.

I think that with the correct absorbent material, like a spongy material wetted with iso, if you placed the disc flat side onto it, and pressed a few times, that iso would dissolve and pull the condensate out. A paper towel sorta works for this and it's the idea I have when I lay it onto the disc without removal and place 2-3 drops of iso on it. It's a dabbing action instead of wiping.

Another option would be a small dish that could hold the airpath disc in a shallow bath of iso, maybe it would clean the holes.
 

squeaks

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Cleaned the dosing tool for the first time, been using it over a year, probably.
To clean,
  • Unscrew cleaning brush. Use a pointy object to depress the plunger further than usual, exposing an area under the disk to clean.
  • Clean underneath the disk, with pointy object, and/or wetted q-tip.
The capsules get loaded much more tightly now. Before, the puck would be looser and I estimate about half restricted. I also noticed that before the 5 minute session mark, that vapor production would go down, and that was the clue that I used to stop vaping.
Now with the dosing tool cleaned, the vapor production does not ever seem to go down. I have increased my session times to 10 minutes, and stop after about 7 minutes, with 3 minutes remaining.

I eventually consume my AVB, but am wondering what is going on here.
 
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seedy53

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Cleaned the dosing tool for the first time, been using it over a year, probably.
To clean,
  • Unscrew cleaning brush. Use a pointy object to depress the plunger further than usual, exposing an area under the disk to clean.
  • Clean underneath the disk, with pointy object, and/or wetted q-tip.
The capsules get loaded much more tightly now. Before, the puck would be looser and I estimate about half restricted. I also noticed that before the 5 minute session mark, that vapor production would go down, and that was the clue that I used to stop vaping.
Now with the dosing tool cleaned, the vapor production does not ever seem to go down. I have increased my session times to 10 minutes, and stop after about 7 minutes, with 3 minutes remaining.

I eventually consume my AVB, but am wondering what is going on here.
what temp. do you vape.? what is going on? i don't understand what you are asking about. can you explain?
 
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squeaks

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what temp. do you vape.? what is going on? i don't understand what you are asking about. can you explain?
I vape at 400. I am asking how cleaning the dosing tool makes me now feel unable to tell when my capsule has been completely extracted.

The dosing tool plunger had about half travel, and I was filling the capsules by massively 'overfilling' the dosing tool, where a bunch would be hanging off the bottom, then getting most of that to go into the capsule. The capsule in my opinion was less filled - it gives less when pressed by a finger. In this scenario, the avp would increase production, then vapor would decrease, and I would believe extraction was complete.

Now with the dosing tool cleaned, vapor production seems to somewhat more slowly increase. Then become more thick but does not ever seem to be finished. I always stop somewhere after 5 minutes of session because I believe it's done. I almost think I may be approaching or actually 'combusting' because the smoke becomes very hot and chokey at 10:00->3:00 (which is where i triple click to turn off the device.) The avb when removed from the capsule is quite dark and charcoal like, in my opinion.
 

seedy53

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I vape at 400. I am asking how cleaning the dosing tool makes me now feel unable to tell when my capsule has been completely extracted.

The dosing tool plunger had about half travel, and I was filling the capsules by massively 'overfilling' the dosing tool, where a bunch would be hanging off the bottom, then getting most of that to go into the capsule. The capsule in my opinion was less filled - it gives less when pressed by a finger. In this scenario, the avp would increase production, then vapor would decrease, and I would believe extraction was complete.

Now with the dosing tool cleaned, vapor production seems to somewhat more slowly increase. Then become more thick but does not ever seem to be finished. I always stop somewhere after 5 minutes of session because I believe it's done. I almost think I may be approaching or actually 'combusting' because the smoke becomes very hot and chokey at 10:00->3:00 (which is where i triple click to turn off the device.) The avb when removed from the capsule is quite dark and charcoal like, in my opinion.
i don't use caps. i make round bricks from a china brick compressor. it makes a perfect brick, that fits in oven. the abv sticks to the wheel and i just brush it off in my avb container. i don't pack super tight like Lee. i do not use a bong lol. i find the avlp tool fits perectly in oven no caps. i put my weed on flat surface to get it to make tighty loads

 
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i don't use caps. i make round bricks from a china brick compressor. it makes a perfect brick, that fits in oven. the abv sticks to the wheel and i just brush it off in my avb container. i don't pack super tight like Lee. i do not use a bong lol. i find the avlp tool fits perectly in oven no caps. i put my weed on flat surface to get it to make tighty loads

Thanks for the video. I find it interesting when he has finished debowling and says, look at the avb, "it's completely fully vaped and the flavor was still excellent". My post was referencing this sentiment, which is two fold, one that a post-use visual inspection of avb is able to identify full extraction, and two that flavor during use is not able to predict complete extraction. Two is what I observe, is that flavor just gets better and better, even after 7 minutes and my throat is burning. My goal is to know when extraction is complete.

I think it may be that after 3 minutes or 3 large draws extraction may be complete.

I think your comment may relate to dense packing of herb and also non-use of dosing caps being also viable in the device.

Post-cleaning of the dosing tool changes in my vaping has spurred my comments.
 
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thx1138

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sounds like you fucked it up by not taking the time to maintain it. i guess dyna ted vapes are easy not to keep clean and dyna well still preform well. please i'm not judging. it's your choice, but it's not fair to blame avlp design for it not cleaning it correctly by user or by not take caring of the avlp's accessories.
got 2 units, 1 for 2.5 yeas, the other almost 2 years. they run and look good. sorry but avlp is a fine vape unit and if taken care of, will work and last for several years.


legacy pro 2 will not be released until next year, positively confirmed. no definitive date has been picked
my personal and highly subjective (just like your's) assessment
@RTbar has a reasonable opinion and its a bit cliche to blame the user, especially on this one, the maintenance is high on this vape, and whether he thinks its a good labor to use ratio is legitimately up to him, mine has been back benched by a number of other lower maintenance vapes: I find this a very frustrating vape and not just because of maintenance - and thats not what I am looking for

if you have alot of time available that you wish to devote to such a thing, you can take care of the accessories all you want on this one, but that doesnt make up for the Rube Goldberg qualities of the vape, the PITA experience with the dosing caps, the crazy little gasket in the door, the need to recharge the unit's battery much more than my other vapes, the tiny screen, and the dust collecting textile exterior

it hits like a mofo, and thats why many people are willing to put in the cleaning and care required to keep it performing well; I have had mine for 2 years, and have now moved on
 
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TigoleBitties

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Two is what I observe, is that flavor just gets better and better, even after 7 minutes and my throat is burning. My goal is to know when extraction is complete.
This might be due to the temp getting high enough in the bowl after 7min to partially vape some resin somewhere in the vape that may have been missed during cleaning.
 
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