AirVape Legacy Pro / AVLP 2

Toivarita

Toivarita

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budski said:
definitely more of a session vape, and I try to keep my tolerance at 1-2 gr a day, so it works good for me.
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Yea i feel that. On demand doesn’t work well for the the Legacy Pro for me because there’s like 3 puffs needed to get this thing vaporizing at max performance.

I don’t go through that much a day and I typically reach for session vapes as I don’t usually take one or 2 hits and then set it down. I vape a whole pack and empty it out so I don’t stain the bowl or cake the capsules in brown crud.
 
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Toivarita said:
I wrote this in the shipping thread of more of a quick thought and they suggested I post here in more detail.

I bought the Legacy 2 because of the early sale price as a spontaneous purchase. I brought out my Legacy Pro to get a feel for the performance again and was let down—reminded of why it doesn’t win my reach test, especially with capsules.

The vapor production just doesn’t keep up with some of my more expensive portables. but for $100, I guess it’s not even comparison as the LP2 wins on value. It just takes longer to get satisfying hits. Needing to put more effort and thought into vaping. However the real nail in the coffin is the uneven heating, capsules or no capsule, the top layer of the herb is maybe halfway extracted while the bottom portions are fully extracted.

Once again, I’ve made the mistake of buying a vape I don’t need. No one’s fault but mine, as I should’ve known what to expect. :shrug:

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The uneven heating is fixed with the 15mm mesh screen mod that many people here use instead of the golden micro dosing disc. And as long as you set the temperature to a high enough level you get strong hits right from the start.

Yeah, it obviously gets outperformed by a Tinymight or Venty. But it still gets impressively close to their performance at a fraction of the size, not to mention it gets double the battery life of the Tinymight despite both using an 18650 cell (but of course the AVLP with its lower current requirement allows you to use a 3500mah Samsung 35e, whilst you are stuck with lower capacity cells on the Tinymight to meet the higher current demand )
 
Toivarita

Toivarita

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Anivia said:
The uneven heating is fixed with the 15mm mesh screen mod that many people here use instead of the golden micro dosing disc. And as long as you set the temperature to a high enough level you get strong hits right from the start.

Yeah, it obviously gets outperformed by a Tinymight or Venty. But it still gets impressively close to their performance at a fraction of the size, not to mention it gets double the battery life of the Tinymight despite both using an 18650 cell (but of course the AVLP with its lower current requirement allows you to use a 3500mah Samsung 35e, whilst you are stuck with lower capacity cells on the Tinymight to meet the higher current demand )
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With the new gasket shape on the V2 lid, does that mean the screen mod is going to change? I think I remember trying the screen mod but found it to be too much of a pain. But I could be remembering wrong.
 
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Toivarita said:
With the new gasket shape on the V2 lid, does that mean the screen mod is going to change? I think I remember trying the screen mod but found it to be too much of a pain. But I could be remembering wrong.
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I haven't received my V2 yet, so I can't comment on that. Although from the pictures I have seen I don't expect there to be a difference
 
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budski

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Toivarita said:
I’ll take a side by side photo of both devices/gaskets. Am I remembering correctly that people just removed the gold disc on top and just slapped a screen over the bowl?
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I did that, also found using a cap lid as top screen worked well, but capsules keep my bowl cleaner longer and only have to deep clean rarely and nothing ever clogs the holes in the bowl or adj. disc, (I 86 that),

ps, I like that vape screen is magnetic now, but it's unnecessary air restriction when using caps.
 
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Doesn’t the top disc hold the capsule at the bottom of the chamber and not getting pulled away from the heated walls when inhaling?
I’m probably not thinking of it right.
 
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Toivarita said:
Doesn’t the top disc hold the capsule at the bottom of the chamber and not getting pulled away from the heated walls when inhaling?
I’m probably not thinking of it right.
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You definitely don't need the disk when using capsules. Mine lives in an ashtray of "bits".

edit: referring to V1, assuming it is the same, certainly looks it...
 
budski

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yes it's a tad loose, maybe 1mm+, but the airflow is improved w/out the disc, and you want a tight seal on the lid gasket so I usually hold the clamshel tight when drawing
 
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Would removing the oval screen improve airflow more without nullifying the hybrid heating with the walls? I definitely don’t want to make this thing full convection, the heater doesn’t have the power for that in my experience.

Damn I remember holding the clamshell closed for better performance on my Legacy (v1), not even the pro, that’s crazy that it’s still having performance improvements by holding it closed. I’ll try with my legacy pro and V2. I’m going to be so disappointed if the performance improves when holding the shell/lid closed. That’s just not something I should have to do.

I’m hoping that the V2 doesn’t really need all these modifications in order to work around the quirks of the device. I trust that the Legacy Pro will be a top contender some day because Apollo/Airvape is listening to what people want, which is why we got the cleaning improvements on the LP2.

@seedy53 , do you have any opinions or insight on performance improvements or do you run it stock/without mods or holding the lid down?
 
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seedy53

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owners of top of the line vapes, maybe disappointed. it's not fair to think it will perform the same or better. most who think avlp2 was made to compete with that crowd of vapes, might not be pleased, cause it wasn't. ted and artisan owners probably expect it to be superior when the avlp2 is a very different kind of vape experience.
apples to apples, not apple and oranges
 
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Anivia

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budski said:
squeezing isn't necessary, except with older well used gasket and hinge sans disc
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Agreed. My AVLP has seen tons of abuse (and I really mean abuse), yet the gasket still seals tightly without needing to squeeze it. Squeezing is only necessary if you use dosing capsules without the disc, although in my experience even with the disc you need to have it not screwed all the way down if you don't want the dosing capsule to rattle when you shake the device
 
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Toivarita said:
Is it unfair? The device retails for $269 and advertised as “The Legacy PRO’s advanced technology ensures top-notch performance” and that’s just touching the surface of marketing claims.
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top of the line vapes (the top 3) are retailing for $409 to $449 and much larger frames for more tech and larger ovens and features

edit for spelling and added words, descriptive.
 
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right, and with the disc screwed down tight on the capsule it restricts the airfow, I cleared those tiny holes in the disc a couple times and haven't ever since 3 yrs now.
 
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Fabric / cork issues with bubbles, uneven vaporization, and performance not up to par with TM? Refund email request sent! I don’t think I need another vape that I’ll use a handful of times and then place in a drawer never to be used again. The low entry price had me on the hook for a few months, but after reading more about this vape, I’m out!
 
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Kaptan said:
Fabric / cork issues with bubbles, uneven vaporization, and performance not up to par with TM? Refund email request sent! I don’t think I need another vape that I’ll use a handful of times and then place in a drawer never to be used again. The low entry price had me on the hook for a few months, but after reading more about this vape, I’m out!
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Did your really expect a device that is half the size of the Tinymight to have the same performance, whilst costing significantly less? Come on
 
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Well I will say I have never experienced uneven extraction with the AVLP v1.

Not up to the TM standards - ok but I don't remember anyone claiming it was a $100 TM?

Obviously you are free to react how you all wish but I would like to say to anybody reading this (waiting for their order) to maybe don't dismiss until you've tried it.

If you think it will match your TM, Venty or TB you might be disappointed but I am not sure that is the way to look at this. It is a different vape with different compromises.

I will say I never "fell in love" with my AVLP on looks and feel like I did with my MFLB or VM where I just instantly love them but over time I simply could not argue with what it can do and it grew on me.

Not saying anybody is wrong to be disappointed but I wouldn't put too much stock in other people immediate negative reactions given how different everyone's preferences and needs actually are. My thoughts.
 
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