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I'm afraid that's hoping against hope. :ko: But if it just changes the ratio enough and adds enough heat retention to enable lowering the temp setting, it may at least make the setup acceptable. We shall see.

I hadn't anticipated that the stonemonkey would be so damned GAAAASSSSSSY . . . Whew, is there an antidote??? :science:

Thanks. The washers seem like a good idea, I'll take a look. :science:

What does your ABV look like???

Have you tried 1 or 3 o'clock? What is your ABV like? How are you loading the ELB?

What about Tstat's stands?

Thanks, that's very helpful. So I pulled the trigger - my new HydraLine is on the way. And now I can finally config my Nanuk.

Sold. :tup: Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll noodle on that but offhand I don't see how that would make a difference. The Q's air intake is wide open, the path only narrows at the heater enclosure which is ~13mm in diameter. The air ratio changes inside the cyclone due to the elbow/screen which creates back...

Then the big difference is in the action? I didn't think it likely there would be less drag than the hydracirc. I'm also a little surprised by the ice pinches because IIRC VXL had indicated pinches would not be used any longer so as to not encourage using ice and risking too high a water...

Well I gave another go at the cyclone/male adapter config. With ~.15 load in the ELB, temp at 200C, and a hefty pull, I can get a cloud. But I'm ambivalent about the result. :science: To some extent that's the fault of the Cloud; I've gotten spoiled with it and so I'm probably sub-consciously...

Thx, Stu. That was my first attempt. I tried using a Q elbow pack but there was a lot of drag, just like with the usual elbow pack, and one of my objectives was to reduce that. When I tried the ELB inverted in the adapter, too much air which was why I tried the single female/male config. I'm...

I was under the impression that VXL will replace ELB's which came from the bad batch that were too small to fit all the way into the joint. Wouldn't hurt to inquire. That's a totally separate matter from the code.

I think you should file a support ticket. Re the website, IIRC it was posted earlier that the site changeover required dumping the database they had, so accounts have to be re-created. Er, Facet. I considered those pieces, but there is only 5" from joint to mouthpiece and I don't want the...

I had posted earlier re using a Cloud HT atop the Q with a female/male adapter along with a Cloud ELB inserted into the male end of the adapter, i.e., as it fits into the Cloud joint. The intent was to get a nice GonG piece working with the Q w/o need of a whip or using the Q inverted...

It's not possible for those to be the only ingredients in an aerosol, there needs to be a propellant. It is also possible depending on origin that not all ingredients would be listed. I agree, stay away from aerosol, use the bottle. EDIT; Just saw AcADIeN's post. Yep, a propellant. Nix on that.

I'm not sure I would go with the mini for the HydraLine. I have the standard 5x7" stand for my HydraCirc, with an unevenly weighted piece I wouldn't want anything smaller. Safer to kick for the additional $10.

Sorry about that, I overlooked that you were using iso.

I use a #3 rubber stopper, from the local hardware store.

Nah, go ahead and pull the trigger. I imagine that all the posts about peeps buying back-up Clouds has the VXL boys dancing a jig. But if it helps, I'm happy to give you absolution. :D