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@Toivarita - since you focused on 'switchless' I'll give you my take. I like tactile feedback. The coil switch is real time feedback as well as the lights. very comforting. Orion on the other hand has hysteresis. This means that once activated, it takes a moment to start heating. This...

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Buy 2 get all 3 was a hell of a deal if you needed 'em. Yea, it happens. They should add that to affiliate programs - No spamming customers you fuckers!

No worries @nIcE - I prefer a healthy dialog for all to participate. Happy to clarify my thinking on these matters. Everyone benefits.

These are my musings I am hearing echoes of @Toivarita and @nIcE . The '20 tip is heavier and I attribute that to the heavy cooling fins stealing the heat from the tip. You want area, not mass for cooling fins. I also felt that this causes the metal stems to get warmer than previous versions...

I sold the Orion, yes. Hot commodity. Last check, DV only had 16. There will be shortages. And an update on the 2020 variance - the 2020 cap works pretty much the same. They take about 20% longer to heat but clicks consistent with older caps. Somehow, they have a bit more clouding. What...

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I love the older caps. That is my beloved and dented '18 cap. Now I have to see what the performance difference is. Finding this explains so many observations here and elsewhere.

You need to sign up on the DV site. There was an announcement with a deal, yes.

Are you rotating the vapcap while heating?

You need more vapor @jj71787 - How are you heating it?

@rvarick - Finding this cap variation puts the Orion back on being a lot more consistent than first thought. Variation is in caps makes a lot more sense than a common product variation. The work coil depth is the only real variance they can make unless there are allowable inductor changes at...

I am so glad to see the PMO concept brought to an artisan vape. Great work @danielj ! Still working Madrone?

Interesting find today - coupling the cap to an IH. I have an '18, C-Vap, and a new parts purchased 2020 standard cap. The 2020 serialized cap coupled with the IH by around 20% reduced power. I'm suggesting some late model caps will reduce how aggressively the Orion heats the cap. The 2020...

Do you have different generations of caps @rvarick ?

Yes, the button inside the coil rather than the sensor the Orion uses.

Apollo Rover is old tech coil switch and charge circuit.

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I have been scratching my head with regard as to what to do with my ABV. I haven't taken it lightly as I know my hard earned money is still within the waste product of DynaVap capping. I started with straight up consumption. Preparation was to the extent of weighing out a daily dose. Wasn't...

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