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@Phizix: Sadly you do have to keep putting the VT in the freezer every 20 minutes, 10 is better. I can easily get where I want to be in 10 minutes or less, usually 5. If you put the VT back in the freezer right after a session it will be back down to happy temp in 1/2 hour or so. BUT I think...

Thought you all might like to see what can be done with a plain old Duncan Imperial Spin Top. Duncan Imperial Challenge Time to start practicing!!!

I just started a Vapor Tamer thread, hopefully it will grow and be helpful. Vapor Tamer

OK, I had to start this thread so we can post everything in one spot. There is a LSV--vapor tamer thread here but I want to discuss the Vapor Tamer and how it works with different vapes. I have the Original, the Fatty, and the Saturn. I've used all with my DBV (SSV standard HC and tubing plus VB...

A nice frustrating platformer... i'm at level 10, this one takes some skills.... concerned-joe edit: finished that a while ago, this one was way fun today, only died 77 times, but it's the most fun one button game I've played in a while.: asleep-walking edit: and another one with neat control...

@guitarscreamngrowler: The Saturn is definitely worth the extra $ as long as you're gonna use it for the SSV. I have both and I've heard that the Saturn may be overkill for a log vape. I used both on my 1/4" Underdog and it's about the same, but the Saturn stays cold longer. More in my post...

Dave, you explained your point in post #75 point I agree, I don't think anything should be left on continuously. But the low wattage of the UD should allow it to be left on for at least a day at a time. I will do some experimenting when the weather gets worse... Still loving the "Toadstool"...

@ biojuggernaut, Have you tried the Saturn? It may have a longer path but it's much wider with less drag than the Fatty which is supposed to be less drag than the original. I don't have an original to compare. Now I have heard that the Saturn may be overkill for a log vape and the Fatty is just...

AMTA, I loved your video, and you got clouds whether you believe them or not! :-P I'm sorry your DBV has fallen, but I would imagine it would be fine to send it back without the HC. SSV Chris is one of the most reasonable people I've ever dealt with... (though that's not saying much... :-P )...

I just gotta post here and say, BEAUTIFUL! dncrgrl, you should be working for a top advertising agency with those skills. It looks like a magazine ad. KUDOS!

@PB88123, "It's the beginning of a great adventure." ~ Lou Reed Oh hey, I like to vape between 18 and 22 watts on the kill a watt...:-) start low and crank up as needed....

This has been fun so far... Bosses

OK, I'm a noob at this log vape thing, but I think I've had a epiphany! I got a much better hit (higher temp) when I pressed the stem into the UD a little, I wasn't putting any pressure on at all before. Is this how it works?

All Vapor Tamers have 19mm gong connectors. Female for the optional mouthpiece and male that accepts 1/2" OD tubing. So the UD 1/4" stem will fit beautifully as you can see in my video. I just ordered a couple of GonG fittings from this place: MGA , I can't believe they don't have a minimum...

Darkrom, the stem for the 1/4" Underdog fit's perfectly into a 14mm female GonG fitting. I just used my little perc bong for a nice hit. So you might want to think about just a nice glass bong with a 14mm GonG stem. But you need something for the 3/8" stem. Well it looks like stroh just slipped...

Cheers! Just got introduced to this from i-am-bored.com, right after finally vaping the white widow i saved for the Underdog. badlipreading What they are actually saying is probably just as relevant.... Also nice: quieting politicians

@ biojuggernaut: If you want REALLY cool hits but no filtration go for the Vapor Tamer. The original should be fine for the 1/4" stem, the problem with it was the restrictive airflow. I haven't tried an aqua vape, it looks great and I'm sure it filters well but IMO there's no way to get a hit...

Ok, got a pic of my travel pack, this bag has carried my Sunday Bong, Vapor Tamer, and tonight it carried the Underdog. And a quick vid with the Vapor Tamer. Didn't get much cloudage because it took a couple takes... tamed dog

So the silicon stem bothers me in that everything sticks to it, I don't like the feel much. So I took a virgin DBV wand (new style, wide opening) and cut a stem to fit. Works nicely, here's a pic of the pair, different angle than in the family pic.

OK! Tried to catch mail lady at the PO but just missed her, had to wait another 4 hours... I got the 2nd from the right, center row. Very happy with the looks. I left her plugged in for an hour while I installed my new toilet. First time with a log so I'm not sure how much to load so I went...