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I wonder if it were possible to design an adapter with a handle, so that it would be easier to use a grasshopper with a pinnacle pro bubbler (one handed, if possible?)

True, but with all the talk about unexpectedly high costs, they may well decide they have no choice but to charge extra for it. I'm sure they will need to increase revenue per unit at some point. If that were the case, I hope they would include it free with the pre-orders, as we didn't have...

Does Grasshopper's order page say it includes a cover or not? If not, then I don't think it is 100% guaranteed yet. I just checked, and the order page doesn't mention the silicon sleeve. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

I hope so, or I won't be able to use it with my bubbler. :uhoh:

Awesome! I don't regret my pre-order one bit. Now I just need to muddle through with my solo for another couple of months. It's slow like a turtle, but it works.

The rules are the rules. There has been plenty of speculation, both negative and positive. What isn't allowed, and rightly so, is calling individuals or companies liars or criminals without an absolutely solid basis. There are probably other places where that is permitted, but not here...

I was just thinking the same thing. Maybe they are afraid to face an "angry mob?"

Actually, the Grasshopper folks seem like good people. In my opinion, they were a bunch of engineers with some great ideas, who found out that executing them in the "real world" was a lot harder than it looked on paper. Especially if some of their suppliers were willing to promise the moon to...

I'm sure a lot of the problems were a complete surprise. Read the book "poorly made in China". It was hilariously depressing... http://www.economist.com/node/13642306 http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2009/04/23/explaining-chinas-quality-control-problems

Only if we get the same heater he did. If they've been forced to degrade some of the specs of the production units versus the prototypes, it may not perform the same. And we obviously wouldn't have any right to complain, as they never promised 45 watts. Any more than they promised a leather...

I wonder if PayPal would return our money if we eventually claimed non-delivery?

what if, at the end of the day, they never deliver? I hope they return the money to people who pre-ordered, in that case...

A lot of companies manage to get it right in China. Look at what goes into an iPhone. But these guys were inexperienced and a bit naive. The last couple of weeks were probably hell for them, and I'll bet all of the fancy company meals they've attended, with shots of baijio no doubt, didn't...

At least the screen will be as promised.

Back down to 30 watts? Maybe heating up in twice the time as in the video? Maybe the battery capacity is less as well?

Or a grasshopper.

Exactly. If I had it to do over again, I would have started with a Solo, instead of the sexy red firefly. I'm sitting here vaping with my solo through a PVHEGonG (what a cool little stem that is!) and a bubbler, and it works great. And so easy, I don't even have to think about it: just do...

I think the most economically rational choice would be the entry level model, as we get most of the benefit, while minimizing our potential loss. But I'm a bit conservative, probably. Keep in mind that technology is improving. Batteries, microprocessors, materials, etc. And this is a really...

I wonder which one would sit more securely in a bubbler? Maybe a bit of extra weight might be an advantage?

To be honest, if you've got the money to gamble on it, and you want a new toy, then go for it. But be realistic in your expectations. It probably won't be the only vape you'll want or need. Just the battery life, and the inability to change a battery outside the unit is a big limitation (At...