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Oh damn. I didn't realise the genius of that design. So you have the heat calories of the 16mm format, with the more open airflow of the 18mm connection. Very clever. I get it now.

Is the ZXL still comfortable on small glass pieces, like j-hooks? I love how the ZX can be used like this. I don't want any large glass pieces ib my life anymore. Also does the bowl have multiple levels like the upcoming new ZX bowl?

I'm not a fan of that pipe. Yet I can't deny the aesthetics of the pipe with the cooling stands and vape selection is top tier. Lovely little collection. Just needs a dedicated Tornado stem now.

We see a similar thing happen with the Tempest. Some people get very uneven extraction with a full bowl. Because these vapes are not heating up while in use I guess it's possible to draw too fast, depleting the battery/balls but moving the air too fast to fully extract. I never thought to...

This was my experience. The half bowl always seemed to have more roast, even if torch was aimed a little higher. I always assumed the battery didn't quite have enough thermal capacity to deep roast larger bowls. I'm open to admitting that assumption was incorrect if people were getting different...

I agree with all of that. Thanks

Nothing has been said about that. We have no idea. When the Anvil released it had full and half bowls day 1. This might offer an indication to their intent to not do similar with Tornado. But who knows.

Nice. Thanks. Looking forward to trying it. I hope they release it with the stem, or stem adaptor soon.

I get that. But it also means no one is actually testing how this thing functions with a full bowl. So I have no idea if it performs well when full. I guess I'll have to wait until I get one myself.

Does it extract evenly with a full bowl? The fact no users fill the bowl concerns me. I recall when I had the Anvil, the extraction was much better at half bowl. Is the same thing going on here?

I find I'm in an anxious state regarding your potential upcoming releases. Simply put, I think I want all of them. But I won't be able to afford all of them at the same time. I'm dreading not being able to pick something up, then it sells out.

Why is this thing so large if it just vapes 0.1g? Even the handle is unnecessarily large. Do you have intentions to improve the design?

Sold my Hybrid few years back. I only had it for 6 months. Then I got caught up in the ball vape hype, and believed how many people were calling the hybrid obsolete. Now a few years on I miss it. It's a very unique experience. I also recall being incredibly high using the bags. I think the ball...

I sometimes use simple glass stems. Only when using half bowl, and taking multiple small hits. Works very nicely.

I don't think think they are low IQ. I recall having lots of difficulty with my first convection vape. I found the Tempest straightforward, but maybe that was due to my previous experience. I would say to anyone needing multiple heat cycles that you are not using the device in an optimum...

I'm a bit confused with all this talk of needing two cycles to fully extract. It's never been my experience.

The balls will last forever I would imagine.

Nice. I'm trying that tonight for sure Tried it. Two back to back half ZX bowls. Left the head on for about 90 seconds after loading each time. Effects heavy, couldn't open my eyes for 3o mins.

What's the airflow like when fully open? Is it still restricted like a Solo 3? Also do you need a slow steady draw like with a TM2 for example?