The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

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mcscruffy

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id be worried the aluminum heatshield will scratch up a lot. my raw Ti V1 shows some wear and im familiar with beating up both these materials from other hobbies.
Thats the only thing id worry about...

@Brenyo when will we get a TiReload?
I imagine it would be prohibitively expensive due to the raw dimensions. Probably $500+ ea for gr5?

It would start as a solid blank rod before cutting and you're paying for all that material iirc.
 

add1noob

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I have read a few times now that the titanium heat shield doesn't have any practical effect outside of adding weight and cost to the tempest. I bought one anyway because I just like nice machining and can appreciate it even more with something like titanium. I just had one question about it though. Is it actually true that there's literally no benefit to it? I saw Brenyo say in a response on here that the titanium sleeve will basically never get hot. Would that be slightly different compared to the aluminum heat shield? I'm wondering if the full titanium version maybe does actually have one advantage, albeit a small one, in that it may be better for back to back to back bowls and heavy use? I'm not sure if this is an accurate way to think about it or not though
Don’t know if someone said this already but one huge benefit I can think of is you can drop the whole damn thing in a ultrasonic cleaner whereas if you did that with the aluminum, I believe it would damage it right?
 
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Psyentist

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I would easily pay $80-$100 for a stainless steel one.
I did email asking about a stainless reload, this was the reply…

Unfortunately, for it to be worth it, I have to order thousands of them, and I don't think I could sell that many of them with the added weight. I would personally prefer a titanium version 🙂

I would also interested in titanium but, as someone above said, I think the price would make it unfeasible.

Vestratto have announced a stainless stash that is a similar concept to the reload. I’ve got one on order so will see if it can replace the reload.
 

HaggisHunter

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Don’t know if someone said this already but one huge benefit I can think of is you can drop the whole damn thing in a ultrasonic cleaner whereas if you did that with the aluminum, I believe it would damage it right?
To be fair the heat shield doesn't get dirty enough to be cleaned with the rest of the bits in a cleaner like that, I just give mine a rinse with soapy water.

If you drop them in then it'll all end up scratched 😉

But going how scarred and scratched up my V1 titanium heat shield is, I'm looking forward to seeing how the aluminium copes with the battering it will get.
Have I said I can't wait for this?
 
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add1noob

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Vestratto have announced a stainless stash that is a similar concept to the reload. I’ve got one on order so will see if it can replace the reload.
Definitely keep us updated, but still, I’d prefer something made specifically for the tempest like how the reload is.
To be fair the heat shield doesn't get dirty enough to be cleaned with the rest of the bits in a cleaner like that, I just give mine a rinse with soapy water.
Yeah huge may have been an overstatement on my part. I don’t even have an ultrasonic cleaner. How do O-rings hold up in them? Is my dream of just dropping my tempest in at night and waking up to a perfectly clean Tempest not a reality?
 
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Psyentist

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Definitely keep us updated, but still, I’d prefer something made specifically for the tempest like how the reload is.
Just having a closer look at the pics of it now and it won’t work for the tempest. It has a raised hex bit in the middle of the magnet that I hadn’t noticed initially, so will only work with vestratto devices unfortunately.
 

HaggisHunter

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Yeah huge may have been an overstatement on my part. I don’t even have an ultrasonic cleaner. How do O-rings hold up in them? Is my dream of just dropping my tempest in at night and waking up to a perfectly clean Tempest not a reality?
Depends how you use it, how heavy a user you are etc.
But sure you can absolutely clean it every day very easily.
You could just remove the ball head as that doesn't need cleaning unless you combust, and leave it in iso overnight, then give it a good rinse and dry in the morning

I have 1 full tempest, and 3 revolve stems with tempest bowls, I basically use a stem, then soak it fully assembled (minus the ball head) overnight, rinse and leave to dry in the morning, then grab another stem and fit the ball head to that.

The machines are good, but while titanium is super hard, it is prone to micro scratches, I'd imagine if you put an anodised unit in a cleaner like that, it could end up looking a bit rough.
Maybe not though. I haven't used one for my vapes.
I've had my v1 for yonks now and it's a bit of a mess, it was a raw unit which I anodised purple, it really is covered in micro scratches though.
 

mcscruffy

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The machines are good, but while titanium is super hard, it is prone to micro scratches, I'd imagine if you put an anodised unit in a cleaner like that, it could end up looking a bit rough.
Maybe not though. I haven't used one for my vapes.
I've had my v1 for yonks now and it's a bit of a mess, it was a raw unit which I anodised purple, it really is covered in micro scratches though.
I've run my grurple anodized first batch Tempest through my ultrasonic cleaner without issue for a year plus at least once a month and there's been no damage to the anodizing or device. Someone earlier in the thread got me worried it would cause a problem with the anodizing, but I have not noticed any negative effects... just a super clean device!

If the anodizing layer is damaged and the intensity is set too high, that is when it could start to remove the anodizing so I don't go over about 50%.

For a raw TI device there is zero concern with an ultrasonic cleaner causing damage, though.
 

HaggisHunter

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I've run my grurple anodized first batch Tempest through my ultrasonic cleaner without issue for a year plus at least once a month and there's been no damage to the anodizing or device. Someone earlier in the thread got me worried it would cause a problem with the anodizing, but I have not noticed any negative effects... just a super clean device!
Absolutely, I just error on the side of cation.
Used them for years in my own trade and seen them damage and scratch many items, steel, aluminium, titanium etc, user error/wrong settings/type of cleaners used can be the issue for sure, lots of variables with them.
Saw a some folk a couple of years ago complaining their fancy anodised Dynavap stems were marked after using them.

They're good, I'm not knocking them, but there needs to be some care taken with using them.
I've seen a titanium component come out with scratches on the bottom, there wasn't anything else with it, it was just because it was sitting on the bottom when it should have had a plastic guard under the part. Not saying it will happen, but it can.

CU is not ready yet so it's not on the video. You can install it from under the MP.
Looking good. That purple will be a hit I'm sure 😍
 
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sternit

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wohoo, this just got my hopes up that "before the end of May" is just around the corner. Are those CUs ready next week? *puppyeyes*

on the one hand i am really happy i preordered the t2 (i only own a t1 head so far) on the other hand all that waiting is killing me. (only blaming my own impatience here)
 
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kegstandman420

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Is the visual indicator green in all new units, no matter their colour?
That's what it says on the Tempest v2 page. All units will come with a green vi. Can't wait to get my hands on this tempest v2! Wondering how you change airflow settings on the v2. Looks like maybe the head? Wonder if this will fit the leather sleeve from v1.
 
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