Dynavap VapCap

TheThriftDrifter said:

If you can get a secondhand one cheap then any vapcap will do the job for sure.
The omni and vongs are super nice but probably a bit of an overkill for tramping.

I love my 19 and 21 M's, gave away my 18 and 20s. The BB9 is great and my most reached for around home.(14mm water piece compatible)

The M7XL is tempting me, looks to be a more refined and mature offering.

Get a Wand, best portable IH out there. Works in the wind, swappable batteries and you can easily vary your heating technique, its kind of like an electric torch.

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So it looks like i cant go wrong whatever i choose, now time to choose one
Thanks for the help!

I'll ask you a question: do you think the glasses taken from the Chinese market, for example, AliExpress, are reliable? Are they like those of the Splinter, the Sb or the Dynavap, for example? I ask because today, when I was cleaning it, I noticed that the colour of the alcohol was very different from usual.

TiSteamo said:

I'll ask you a question: do you think the glasses taken from the Chinese market, for example, AliExpress, are reliable? Are they like those of the Splinter, the Sb or the Dynavap, for example? I ask because today, when I was cleaning it, I noticed that the colour of the alcohol was very different from usual.

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How did the color look different? Some of the colored glass may be 'painted' rather than actual colored glass.

w00t! M7XL has arrived! It came packaged separately, a condenser/MP and an M7, fwiw, plus the M+. Having grown accustomed to the twig, I was prepared to be disappointed. No need, it's really, really nice. The texturing is less subtle than the photos show and it really looks pretty spectacular and well done, is plenty grippy, and the spiral lives on (if you take off your glasses the spiral looks 3D!). They've done an excellent job of making the M look great in either orientation.

The condenser extended one notch is a bit more open than the M+. I'll have a few puffs and report back.

Edit: I don't think the MP has a taper but it does fit and function decently in a 10mm joint. First roast was half-inch flame held about 2/3 down the cap, spun to the clicks, production was voluminous. I got a few good hits from that first roast! AVB is light brown and completely uniform. This may represent improvements in the design. Let me check again.

Edit 2: The texturing is really pretty functional and the extra length makes this a better M experience. I was afraid it would be too heavy but it's not bad at all. I'll have to try the MP in my other Ms.

Edit 3: Finished the first bowl in about 2.5 roasts. Flavor was unremarkable except that it didn't degrade as obviously as usual. The first and second heats were big and smooth, several hits each, not notably warm. The third hit was a weak cleanup. AVB was deep brown and pretty uniform. My feeling was that the M+ represented a return to a more aggressive M tip and I think this follows suit, but the first session at least seemed like a smoother experience. I feel reasonably confident that my assessment will bear out; this seems like a fine M to me!

Edit 4: took out the XL MP and had a bowl standard M style, found it consistent with the first: a few big, comfortable hits per heat, two heats and a cleanup. The avb is a little lighter this time, but spent. As an M, it's pretty great, and I think people who want a big hit will enjoy this one. I found the flavor unremarkable but I will try another strain later and see how it does.

coolbreeze said:

How did the color look different? Some of the colored glass may be 'painted' rather than actual colored glass.

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The glass was the clear one, therefore apparently untreated but I wonder more if it's not a slightly "plasticky" glass.
After soaking the alcohol was particularly reddish, when normally it tends more towards a champagne colour.
At first glance, however, it seems to me to be a lower quality glass than the custom Splinter or Dynavap ones

TiSteamo said:

The glass was the clear one, therefore apparently untreated but I wonder more if it's not a slightly "plasticky" glass.
After soaking the alcohol was particularly reddish, when normally it tends more towards a champagne colour.
At first glance, however, it seems to me to be a lower quality glass than the custom Splinter or Dynavap ones

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Don't believe I've encountered that before. I'm stumped about what it could be. Are the herbs new and different?

Edit: I'm unable to edit my comment above but I want to report that eMni-style is very effective! I pushed the condenser in two clicks to the second longest setting, which tightened up the draw a bit and made the vapor less diluted and still voluminous, not too warm. The flavor was also quite a bit better after I switched from the herbs left in the grinder overnight! ; )

I was prepared to be disappointed with my purchase, cause I'm a cheapskate, but I'm loving the M7. The textured finish is velvety, it feels and looks great. I've been loving the new tip. Been getting even extractions with full nug. I want a full Ti, but with a stinger mouthpiece I've been liking the flavor.

I like that I can do a few good flavor hits and then 1 last roast to finish everything. Or a medium heat with a couple smaller ones. The options really make this M7 feel personal again. Takes me back to my first M.

I just had my first bowl with the "Convection Cap" from TRWW.


Setup was: Sipper CC, Helix Tip, Revolve 2 stem with closed carb. Well, what can I say - it works brilliantly! Amazing how long the heat is retained and how many draws I can take within one heating cycle. Taste-wise, it's also great, and then there's the airflow...

The only downsides are that one has to be a little careful and that the stem gets quite hot. Next I'll try a setup with a J-Hook.

So, the CC is really highly recommended and at this price, an absolute no-brainer.

Hey guys thought I would ask the greater collective. I'm coming back to the dynaverse after some time away.

I was mainly using the Ti tip with standard cap and glass stem.

Recently got the Revolve Gen 2. I'm going to stick with the Ti tip but what are peoples thoughts on the captive cap vs the standard cap? I've only ever used the standard cap and it's always been fine for me. Any reason to pay the extra 10 for the captive cap?

I'm going to have a bit more of a search around but if anyone wants to share the favorite YLL IH settings for the Ti tip that would be awesome. Never had an IH in the early day just a torch.

invisiblecomplications said:

Hey guys thought I would ask the greater collective. I'm coming back to the dynaverse after some time away.

I was mainly using the Ti tip with standard cap and glass stem.

Recently got the Revolve Gen 2. I'm going to stick with the Ti tip but what are peoples thoughts on the captive cap vs the standard cap? I've only ever used the standard cap and it's always been fine for me. Any reason to pay the extra 10 for the captive cap?

I'm going to have a bit more of a search around but if anyone wants to share the favorite YLL IH settings for the Ti tip that would be awesome. Never had an IH in the early day just a torch.

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If you decide to spend the extra 10, go for low temp captive cap. Completely different from the standard cap.
Standard cap: thicker vapor, but easier to get slightly burned taste
Captive cap: lighter vapor, somewhat more manageable
Low temp captive cap: best taste, may need more heating cycles
Perforated cap: more air, best with bong and with helix tip for me.

condition said:

If you decide to spend the extra 10, go for low temp captive cap. Completely different from the standard cap.
Standard cap: thicker vapor, but easier to get slightly burned taste
Captive cap: lighter vapor, somewhat more manageable
Low temp captive cap: best taste, may need more heating cycles
Perforated cap: more air, best with bong and with helix tip for me.

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I should've mentioned that I bought low temp cap at the same time as the revolve.

I like a MTL experience not DTL reminds to much of my bong days. These day I'm looking for cool vapor and nice smooth hits with a little coughing as possible.

What do you think of a low temp cap with an FMJ to keep the heat longer?

The LTC seems to have a lot of play up and down compared to my standard cap which has none is this normal?

Also can we clean the Revolve in everclear can't get any ISO here without fragrance in i t

Honestly IDK.
TBH, I do not like the FMJ and the Armored cap, as I own an Anvil, which performs better than FMJ & AC, in my opinion, and although I own FMJ & AC, I do not use them, but other members like them a lot. I prefer the AC from the FMJ, though

condition said:

Honestly IDK.
TBH, I do not like the FMJ and the Armored cap, as I own an Anvil, which performs better than FMJ & AC, in my opinion, and although I own FMJ & AC, I do not use them, but other members like them a lot. I prefer the AC from the FMJ, though

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That's fair I will have to play around and see how it goes.

The Anvil is available where I am but it's expensive so I think I would rather wait for the tempest to arrive.

invisiblecomplications said:

The Anvil is available where I am but it's expensive so I think I would rather wait for the tempest to arrive.

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Wise choice, the Tempest is amazing!

invisiblecomplications said:

That's fair I will have to play around and see how it goes.

The Anvil is available where I am but it's expensive so I think I would rather wait for the tempest to arrive.

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I've tried FMJ on low temp, I don't recommend it. I found the sustained heat on the LTC kind of ruined my click, it would click much hotter than it did before. If you want sustained heat, get one of the new M tips maybe? I've been torch heatsoaking the bottom of the tip and then moving up to the top of the cap whenever I feel like I want to hit it. I get a super flavorful, cool hit, then I finish the bowl off with 1-2 more mid-heavy hits. I agree with condition, the AC is better overall.

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It's excellent with a DV and will open a world of possibilities!

Shorner said:

Wise choice, the Tempest is amazing!

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Yeah been reading the thread and watching a few of the vids posted by people and the last one @Jojofernz posted sold me completely.

Wolfsie said:

I've tried FMJ on low temp, I don't recommend it. I found the sustained heat on the LTC kind of ruined my click, it would click much hotter than it did before. If you want sustained heat, get one of the new M tips maybe? I've been torch heatsoaking the bottom of the tip and then moving up to the top of the cap whenever I feel like I want to hit it. I get a super flavorful, cool hit, then I finish the bowl off with 1-2 more mid-heavy hits. I agree with condition, the AC is better overall.

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Thanks for the input I think another low temp cap should do the trick thanks.

Just realized that I don't have a tool to adjust my CCDs. When I left the Dynaverse I passed on my M to a friend to get him off combustion.

Is there anything floating around purpose made that I can use? I saw a Simrell master Key but no stock. I kinda need something. Nothing in the Revolve will push the screen out either.

Any suggestions?

Do people prefer the Revolve stem or the Simrell Hyper 9 XL? The Revolve stem is obviously cheaper, but the Simrell comes with a tip and a cap (which I don't need, but I guess they're nice to have.)

invisiblecomplications said:

Just realized that I don't have a tool to adjust my CCDs. When I left the Dynaverse I passed on my M to a friend to get him off combustion.

Is there anything floating around purpose made that I can use? I saw a Simrell master Key but no stock. I kinda need something. Nothing in the Revolve will push the screen out either.

Any suggestions?

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Stem from a cotton bud, a piece of peg wood (used in watch repair), a chop stick?

Happy Spring, people!

Hey y'all! So I've been using my M7 for about a week now, and I am blown away.

I thought the M+ was a big step up from the 20M and 21M as a stock OHE device, and so I've given away about ten to friends with little Aomai torch lighters and fat mouthpieces so they could use water pipes. And I still love my M+. I use the half bowl regularly and find that it is still a fantastic overall device for the ~$75 I got it for (I would wait til there were sales to buy in bulk for friends). The M+ is great for one-hit single cycle extractions that cash the herb thoroughly but still leave enough THC that I can use the AVB later. It is great for multiple heat ups as well, since the thermal mass feels like it doesn't lose as much heat between clicks and the herb is closer to temp. I love that even with the added thermal mass, the cap still cools down super quick and so the device does not have a lot of hot spots on which you can easily burn yourself.

The M7 is just. Better. More airflow. More thermal mass. Less heat transfer to the stem (although that is much less of a concern if you have multiple devices and can rotate). I think that if you gave an M7 to someone who was a very heavy user and it was their only method of consumption, they might be a little more likely to burn themselves cuz the added thermal mass keeps the tip WARM for a while. Even then, this feels like the best device I've used that I can just hand someone and they will get a good experience. The fact that you can get five good draws from one heat cycle is absolutely insane, and it makes the device so much more user-friendly to the people who don't care about the ritual and just want to get smacked (like many of my stoner friends).

I still prefer my Helix tip overall with a perforated cap, and if I could only have one tip, the Helix is still it. The M7 has absolutely claimed second place tip for me, though.


Note: I have only tried tips in my signature, so there are plenty I have not tried, including all of the various titanium tips besides the Helix.

bellona0544 said:

The fact that you can get five good draws from one heat cycle is absolutely insane

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Feels like I'm late to the party... is this true? The extra thermal mass is that pronounced?

Seems like if this is true then you can potentially cash a bowl in one heat cycle without RTL?

bellona0544 said:

The M7 is just. Better. More airflow. More thermal mass. Less heat transfer to the stem

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Didn't occur to me to think of it as better but I guess you're right about that, being absolutely right about your supporting points. Great review! Glad you're enjoying it!

TigoleBitties said:

Feels like I'm late to the party... is this true? The extra thermal mass is that pronounced?

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I noticed right away how the first hit was quite a bit extra. I just kept puffin' and puffin'. Second was even a little more, and the third was a whiff. AVB was totally even.

TigoleBitties said:

Seems like if this is true then you can potentially cash a bowl in one heat cycle without RTL?

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Not sure but it worked so well as two multi-hits that you'd think so. I don't think it would be the same quality of vapor over a longer time, though, but roastier hits over a similar amount of time?

TigoleBitties said:

Feels like I'm late to the party... is this true? The extra thermal mass is that pronounced?

Seems like if this is true then you can potentially cash a bowl in one heat cycle without RTL?

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Yeah. It is. Significant. On my M+, I can heat just above the dimples at a 90 degree angle and get a solid three hits, then another wispy hit usually, then I get cool down clicks. On the M7, it is truly five solid hits heating up and at a 45 degree angle on the bowl itself so the flame just catches the bottom of the cap. These have to be pretty back-to-back still but the M7 just retains heat much longer.

I also use a water piece more often than not, and it is so easy to make clouds. The difference through water feels a little less pronounced because I crank up the heat on my M+, and I find that I can get similar performance out of most of my tips through water. The M7XL with the adjustable airflow from the mouthpiece works GREAT with water, and even if you don't want/need the new tip, the mouthpiece and condenser is worth the $30 if you are looking to upgrade your experience.