Tafée Bowle

west-elec

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If you freeze your bubble then run it through a fine kitchen microplaner it will produce good surface area. Freeze the planer too so it doesn't defrost the bubble as you grind it. If your stuff is too high quality it might turn liquid as you vape it but at least with bowle's design it's a loss but not a disaster.
 

The Chemist

New member but long time lurker
If you freeze your bubble then run it through a fine kitchen microplaner it will produce good surface area. Freeze the planer too so it doesn't defrost the bubble as you grind it. If your stuff is too high quality it might turn liquid as you vape it but at least with bowle's design it's a loss but not a disaster.
That's why I love this vape so much with hash, even if the material you're using is very sticky or melting, it gonna be easy to clean up, just drop the stem and the bowl in iso. Also you won't run the risk of having the stuff melt, drop in the heater like with the majority of vapes that have their heater right under the bowl and create a nightmare to clean up.
 

Djsleepy

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That's why I love this vape so much with hash, even if the material you're using is very sticky or melting, it gonna be easy to clean up, just drop the stem and the bowl in iso. Also you won't run the risk of having the stuff melt, drop in the heater like with the majority of vapes that have their heater right under the bowl and create a nightmare to clean up.
Awesome points ! I’m already feeling the upside down heating system! Sounds ....well .....like true convection!
 
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west-elec

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I am one of those interested by the reports on performance but having trouble with the cup. I've been calling it the Tacky Cup instead of Taffee Bowle. I read you shouldn't use for hot drinks, alcohol may void warranty and the cup sitting right over the heater I assume gets warm, so drink fast if you like it cool. What exactly is it good for. Then I start thinking about stash boxes, maybe holding tubes with different strains, q-tips, brushes and maybe a little of that bubble hash...After market 3d printer people could do some fun stuff. If someone hasn't made this into a bubbler by new year I will be very disappointed.
 

Ripstar

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The more I want this vape, the more I also realize how many friends that this could be the vape that changes their minds. People who want a drink(tea, cocktail, water, or whatever) but don't want to worry about getting everything situated...wish there was a deal
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Let's all feel that upside down heating love, amen @Djsleepy

Stoner question alert!

Is the Bowle heater design really upside down?

Or is it the first fuckin' upside right vape?

Sorry, FYI it's not the first, the now defunct ipuffusa elevape and haze square both had heating elements above their herb chambers :cool:
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Well... Sticky bricks, prrl neo (although nothing a true vape), Elev8r, etc

I mean, you can hold any vape upside down too, splinter tetra tinymight lol the two I mentioned were specifically similarly designed electronic vapes at least :D

ANYWAY I have to think that Tafée will release a stem that had a 14-18mm connection, perhaps positioned over the base of the puck? for hydrotubes and mouthpieces... And also one that does the same thing, but upside down on the other side? for bubblers and jayhooks... It is just too simple of a design not to do that at some point! Modding something up is difficult because of the current stem design, perhaps if Ratchett gets the exact piece or a 3D scan of it then he can make a SonG to fit, but it would make things too tall I think even with my shorter stem... Delta3D should easily be able to print and sell parts to turn the drinkware into an organizer though!
 

LabPong

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The more I want this vape, the more I also realize how many friends that this could be the vape that changes their minds. People who want a drink(tea, cocktail, water, or whatever) but don't want to worry about getting everything situated...wish there was a deal

This is the reason I would not want to use this vape. I do not want that cup on it....it is a less than desirable way to use the vape in my opinion. Having my own cup/glass for my drink is much better all the way around for many reasons. And I would rather have the vape be as small as possible and or its shape not be used how it is.

That said, I am very much interested in it's heating and general interior design.

What type of battery does it have? 3000maH+ li-po?
 
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guyonthecouch

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The more I want this vape, the more I also realize how many friends that this could be the vape that changes their minds. People who want a drink(tea, cocktail, water, or whatever) but don't want to worry about getting everything situated...wish there was a deal
Agree, been thinking the same thing.. It seems so user friendly. The cup is just an accessory, if you don't want it on the vape take it off or buy it without the cup. From a futurist point of view, the modular design of the Bowle is genius with endless creative opportunity. The first cup iteration is just the tip of the iceberg.

Right now is a "deal", I would imagine that current pricing will increase as the product and company get more refined and mature, standard from what we've seen from other successful vape companies. I doubt we'll see any discounts or better pricing for a while but you never know.. 🤞
Jerry @stickstones also mentions in his recent vid with Troy that there are limited units available until next production run(post chinese new year), something along those lines.

So if you want a Bowle asap with best pricing possible I'd say now is your best bet.
 
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guyonthecouch

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I wouldn’t expect a glass bong attachment whatsoever, I think that goes completely against their attempt at “normalization” and is why we never saw such adapters for Mighty or Minivap until third party releases.
Why not "normalize" glass/bongs while they're at it? It's just a method of added filtration and cooling effect, seems like any normie would want those options.

My Minivap came with gong attachment kit (can't remember if it came/comes standard or if had to add to order, got it in 2019), from the company not 3rd party FYI.
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Why not "normalize" glass/bongs while they're at it? It's just a method of added filtration and cooling effect, seems like any normie would want those added options.

My minivap came with gong attachment kit, from the company not 3rd party FYI.

What would be a good way of normalizing bongs that hasn’t been tried in the last 30 years? I like the idea, I just don’t see the game plan. We’ve had a medical cannabis program since 1996 here in California and only in the last few years have things changed that you can even call a water pipe a bong, used to get kicked out of the store for using those words. So it’s a little more normalized than it used to be, but only for people already shopping for bongs. To me, normalization is Whoopi Goldberg chiefin a Bowle on The View. A comment I made in this thread earlier in the year was about how one can normalize the equipment as much as they want, but the biggest stigma is still pulling out a big fat stinky bud to grind in front of grandma. And I don’t mean the stoner grandmas who I’ve vaped dabs with. :lol: :lol:

Maybe this sounds oversimplified but I honestly think the idea with this vape is you would just take a sip from the cup to cool your throat.
 

Vonv

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This is the reason I would not want to use this vape. I do not want that cup on it....it is a less than desirable way to use the vape in my opinion. Having my own cup/glass for my drink is much better all the way around for many reasons. And I would rather have the vape be as small as possible and or its shape not be used how it is.

That said, I am very much interested in it's heating and general interior design.

What type of battery does it have? 3000maH+ li-po?
So far everyone who owns and have tested the unit loves the way it sits in their hands and on the table.

As far as 'small as possible' is concerned, this doesn't sound like it was made with that in mind.

As you know, there are a ton of 'small' as possible devices to choose from that will allow you hide your vape in your pocket.

It doesn't seem this device is really aimed at the mass traditional juvenile user looking to toke while on the go.

Funny I am yet to find anywhere where Tafée calls the Bowle a 'vaporizer'. I've looked through and I can't find one. That in itself is a subtle message.

They've abandoned the traditional word that has been bastardized by pocket friendly vape pens and disposable liquid heating thingys.
They've abandoned conventional design for something divergent, clearly controversial.

The key for me to understand this design was when I googled the word 'Bowle'.
Looking through the images you will get some sense of where they are coming from.
If none of those images of Bowles tickle you then you know the drinkware ain't the one for you.
Then I'd be looking to get the current limited options of the device without the drinkware for the around the home experience like @guyonthecouch explained.

I've resorted to not trying to overthink idealogics or read too much into intent and just use the product if it suits your lifestyle or use case. If it doesn't thankfully there's tons of other options for everyone.
 

SquirrelMaster

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There is an actual glass version I am 100% sure I saw @stickstones using one. But it's in prototype stage and they are guaging demand.

The plastic drinkware is acrylic and a high quality one that looks like glass. It does not feel like plasticky plastic to me, more like a cost effective alternative to a much expensive glass. I'm enjoying it using it every other session.
If you look at the design of the drinkware you'll notice it'll take some ingenuity to mass produce such a non symmetrical glass blow... Yes it can be done but if folks think prices are steep now (I don't) then wait until a glass mod is priced for a surprise.

Take a moment to look at their pricing properly..it is not crazy.
$69 USD or $100 CAD (not their fault Canadian Petro dollars have been blowing in the wind) is for both the acrylic potter and the acrylic drinkware.

That is not expensive at all in the least.
Think about it.... Most vaporizers come with just one permanent heating chamber housing a stuck on single ceramic or steel oven/bowl.

In the Potter you receive 4 ceramic zirconium pots. One is already included inside the puck and attached stem which technically means your receive 5 pots.
No way each of those pots cost less than $2 USD. I know because I work with ceramic suppliers in Europe and Asia. Ceramic zirconium is very pricy at the moment.
So you get $8 USD worth of just ceramic pots.
The stainless steel stir tool included in the kit looks machined and should cost between $3-$4 USD in production.
They acrylic potter grinder should be between $5 - $9 USD in production. That totals between $16 to $20 in just parts alone for the Potter.
The drinkware I would estimate at $4 USD per unit.
But taking its size I would factor in Shipping, packaging and sales cost say another $10 USD per unit.
So let's say a total of $34 USD production and sales cost for the acrylic potter and acrylic drinkware which they currently retail for $69.

I've seen a lot of pricing thresholds go crazy but these guys are in my opinion underpriced.
Yes I would always love to play cheaper but then you end up with companies trying to cut corners and squeeze dollars which make for diminishing returns quick.

My bet is that they are playing the volume game cautiously. If things go fairly okay and they don't sell them by the boatload they'll be okay but not gouge their customers heartless.

If things go really really well and they sell by the boatload they can simply drop prices down further because cost margins will be probably better and they can tempt the dollar stingy shoppers.

These guys are priced well for a startup with probably low volumes out the gate. The guys behind this don't seem like delusional out of touch suits.
I came back to say that after receiving some acrylic glasses over Christmas I'm not as opposed to them as they don't affect taste like I remember a typical plastic restaurant glass does. Mine aren't even that high quality (national Lampoon's moose mugs) but they work good for egg nog and sparkling apple juice so I imagine the Bowle cup would be just fine and possibly better.

The order section of the site (about half way down) says that a potter is included with every order although the product pages lead me to believe that that's not the case (when selecting from the drop down menu) so they should clarify that. A little write up on the product page of what's included with the "basic" package would be good as well if you have a bug in their ear.

I also wish they had a Canadian checkout option to skip the conversion fees. I assume they're based in Canada with the testing done and website info so it would be nice to skip the skip the conversion fees while supporting a Canadian based business.

This is an interesting device that I'll keep on my radar and like a few of you fine folks pointed out the talent behind it is REALLY good. Knowing that this isn't just a bunch of suits but some good people you interacted with also eases my mind. I need to check my bank account lol.
 

guyonthecouch

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What would be a good way of normalizing bongs that hasn’t been tried in the last 30 years? I like the idea, I just don’t see the game plan. We’ve had a medical cannabis program since 1996 here in California and only in the last few years have things changed that you can even call a water pipe a bong, used to get kicked out of the store for using those words. So it’s a little more normalized than it used to be, but only for people already shopping for bongs. To me, normalization is Whoopi Goldberg chiefin a Bowle on The View. A comment I made in this thread earlier in the year was about how one can normalize the equipment as much as they want, but the biggest stigma is still pulling out a big fat stinky bud to grind in front of grandma. And I don’t mean the stoner grandmas who I’ve vaped dabs with. :lol: :lol:

Maybe this sounds oversimplified but I honestly think the idea with this vape is you would just take a sip from the cup to cool your throat.
I hear you bro, same here.. fighting the good fight since the 90's and now we're a fully federally Legal country. Now we have too many bongs in the stores haha..
To each their own, if you want to use your vape how you chose then go for it! If a company wants to make profits by listening to their consumer base's demands/requests, I would say that's a wise choice. If they can release a wpa(since that's what's being discussed) without major interference with manufacturing, logistics and certifications, they should! Otherwise they're just losing out on money to the 3rd party companies. Also, some users and manufacturers claim that usage with wpa can be wasteful for the noids, getting stuck to glass surface area etc. IME I use them to increase vapor volume = one shot to the dome! Great if you don't have time for a 10-20 minute session. I also find the flavour profile to be preferable out of glass.

Speaking of certifications, can someone post a picture of the base of the unit with all certs? One of them has to be for waterproofing re the cup accessory.

Kind of cool that the Bowle has won a bunch of design awards too. Don't know much about the awards but they look like they're fairly notable. Good job on Tafee's part re normalization. These look like awards for everyday companies, Dyson etc not just some lame canna related awards.
 
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
What type of battery does it have? 3000maH+ li-po?
The full user manual is a good reference for questions like this... https://tafee.com/download/Tafee - Full Operating Manual.pdf

According to the manual the battery is a Li-ion Polymer Cells - Output: 7.4 750 mAH. Operating life 7,000 hours, service life 12,000 cycles.

I agree with the prior posts...if the manufacturer doesn't fill the void with accessories the third party folks who frequent this site will. It all depends on how well the vape works and how well received it is. Based on my limited use (3 days) I'd say we should expect all kinds of accessories. I suggested a simple whip that could be connected to the mouthpiece and is wound up in the cup with water and ice in it and a mouthpiece on the end of the whip that clips to the lip of the cup. The cooling would be massive........ and based on my use so far totally unnecessary since even at level 4 it's cool enough for me.

Speaking of accessories.....That metal topper was calling my name from the second I touched it. I don't own a high end grinder but the second I picked up that metal topper I knew it was 10 times better than the grinders I own. Yesterday was my second time fully charging the unit and as I mentioned earlier ..... I don't test for battery life and temp maintenance until the third full charge since some batteries take 3 full charges to reach their peak performance. So last night I decided to test the metal topper.....

I put two pinky sized nugs in and ground them up. I read somewhere that the recommended size is one pinky sized nug but it didn't look like enough so I used two. The magnets on this grinder are strong and the mechanics super smooth. So smooth that I wondered if it was working at all. I pulled the bottom up and it had filled the four pots to the rim but there was some ground flower still left in the grinder itself since it didn't allow any additional flower into the bottom where the pots are. So I took the empty pot still in the stem and put it in the potter when I took out one of the filled pots to put in the stem. Couple turns of the grinder and it filled the empty pot with what was left without adding more to the ones already filled. I read somewhere not to pack the pots so I left them in the "airy filled state" they were already in. Maybe if I was more into high end grinders I wouldn't have been so impressed. Bottom line...the metal topper is nicely engineered, milled and worked well with the Bowle.
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Speaking of certifications, can someone post a picture of the base of the unit with all certs? One of them has to be for waterproofing re the cup accessory.

Kind of cool that the Bowle has won a bunch of design awards too. Don't know much about the awards but they look like they're fairly notable. Good job on Tafee's part re normalization. These look like awards for everyday companies, Dyson etc not just some lame canna related awards.
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Below is the Wiki for moisture in IP22 - it is the description of the second '2' in the designation. Wiki isn't my first choice in some circumstances but it's Sunday and I'm lazy....

Dripping water when tilted at 15°Vertically dripping water shall have no harmful effect when the enclosure is tilted at an angle of 15° from its normal position. A total of four positions are tested within two axes.Test duration: 2.5 minutes for every direction of tilt (10 minutes total)
Water equivalent to 3 mm (0.12 in) rainfall per minute

The first '2' in the designation represents fingers or similar objects.

I have no idea WTF this all means :lol: but I hope it means my nightly vodka and cranberry juice will not make me sad.
 
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LabPong

Well-Known Member
So far everyone who owns and have tested the unit loves the way it sits in their hands and on the table.

As far as 'small as possible' is concerned, this doesn't sound like it was made with that in mind.

As you know, there are a ton of 'small' as possible devices to choose from that will allow you hide your vape in your pocket.

It doesn't seem this device is really aimed at the mass traditional juvenile user looking to toke while on the go.

Funny I am yet to find anywhere where Tafée calls the Bowle a 'vaporizer'. I've looked through and I can't find one. That in itself is a subtle message.

They've abandoned the traditional word that has been bastardized by pocket friendly vape pens and disposable liquid heating thingys.
They've abandoned conventional design for something divergent, clearly controversial.

The key for me to understand this design was when I googled the word 'Bowle'.
Looking through the images you will get some sense of where they are coming from.
If none of those images of Bowles tickle you then you know the drinkware ain't the one for you.
Then I'd be looking to get the current limited options of the device without the drinkware for the around the home experience like @guyonthecouch explained.

I've resorted to not trying to overthink idealogics or read too much into intent and just use the product if it suits your lifestyle or use case. If it doesn't thankfully there's tons of other options for everyone.

Cool Vonv.....appreciate your feelings and opinions for sure!

I was not trying to imply making the vape a lot smaller than it is now. I am speaking to the over all puck size. I do not know if any space is not needed just because of the glass/bowl on top of it.

I guess I always look at vapes and break them down to just the main components and then anything else not needed. But maybe there is no
wasted space with making the vape the puck shape anyway? I cant tell until I get one or see it taken apart.

Basically, it sure as heck is probably comfortable as is to hold with out the cup, I just imagine a more block type overall shape with ergo elements for hand comfort.
 
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