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Discontinued Minicron, Minicron Lite and Ophos Oil Vaporizers

DMPesso

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Can someone please tell me the capacity of the gen 3 kiss cart? Was thinking of getting it for the joyetech VTC mini, not sure if that's overkill or not? I already have an ego c twist...
 
DMPesso,

StormyPinkness

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Can someone please tell me the capacity of the gen 3 kiss cart? Was thinking of getting it for the joyetech VTC mini, not sure if that's overkill or not? I already have an ego c twist...
Some people just put a bit on the coil and other people overload it. I put about .2 (maybe .3) in there at a time, enough for a couple of light sessions. It's what I take with me when I don't want layg and I can't bring my herc. If you put a bunch in there eventually you just need to scrape some wax off the walls and bottom of the mp when it builds up a lot. Also when I finish I do cooldown hits, not sure if it's necessary but with so much wax sitting around in there it makes me feel better. Not sure if I'm in the minority using it this way though.
 
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thegoo

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How do the double coil and donut work compared to the single?

It really depends on what qualities you are looking for and what type of battery you are using.
if you are looking for cloud production, I get amazing clouds with the single at 4.0 and the dual at 7.4.
The donut does not produce massive clouds.
If you are looking for taste and are not worried about vapor production, the donut can't be beat in the flavor department.
FWIW, the dual coils will work at low voltages (3.7-6v) but the results won't be that great.
If you are using a small battery like minicron lite, minicron, omicron lite etc then I would suggest sticking to a single coil.
If you are using a Persei/8 then the options are endless!
 

DreamHaze

Psychonaughty
It really depends on what qualities you are looking for and what type of battery you are using.
if you are looking for cloud production, I get amazing clouds with the single at 4.0 and the dual at 7.4.
The donut does not produce massive clouds.
If you are looking for taste and are not worried about vapor production, the donut can't be beat in the flavor department.
FWIW, the dual coils will work at low voltages (3.7-6v) but the results won't be that great.
If you are using a small battery like minicron lite, minicron, omicron lite etc then I would suggest sticking to a single coil.
If you are using a Persei/8 then the options are endless!

Awesome!
Well, i'm getting a istick 30w soon to power these attys.
The donut i assume can produce some good clouds if put at the 30w mark, no? or is that no safe?
 
DreamHaze,

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:wave:
Watchu guys got in store for us now?

Oh something weird.

I'll see if I can out a video up this weeks of it in action.

On a different topic.


Third generation 1701 rebuildable coil has gone from drawing board to prototype phase.

Expect a new 1701 that has greatly reduced leaks if not eliminated it all together.
 

b0

Cloudy...
Hi guys, just received and alpha centaury and one of the atomizers is not recognized by my TC mode. The donut and the double coil work amaizing in TC or Voltage, but the single only works in Voltage mode. Is something wrong with it? It indicates 1.07 ohms, shouldn't it be lower?
 
b0,

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Hi guys, just received and alpha centaury and one of the atomizers is not recognized by my TC mode. The donut and the double coil work amaizing in TC or Voltage, but the single only works in Voltage mode. Is something wrong with it? It indicates 1.07 ohms, shouldn't it be lower?

Dont try to burn it out, would need to dry them out maybe under a lamp or something its better.

Now as for the TC these coils are true Titanium grade 2 and the resistance reduces as it gets hotter, most if not all TC mods can not run pure titanium in TC mode and if they work its not accurate at all.
 
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From the bottom of our hearts here at Up Tech we would like to say thank you for everyone for your support. Without your vigilant critique and support we would not have reached our next milestone in our quest for the perfect vaporizer. Happy New Year everyone may the new year bring every one their wishes.


Hye life is the only life for me.
 

YungLeaner

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I unfortunately am posting here due to a customer service issue, and to offer a warning regarding the W9 Tech's website operation. If things are fixed on Monday I will delete my post.

This happened on Wednesday the 30th, for the record. While trying to order an Omicron vaporizer with an extra coil, I entered in my debit card information. I pressed "complete," and the card was declined. I knew that my account has around 300$ in it, and the purchase was only for 36$, so I was confused. I entered, double-checked and re-entered my information numerous times, hoping to get the pen while it was still on sale for m girlfriend, whose Micro G is just not cutting it anymore. All of the order forms were denied, and I logged off the website discouraged.

Imagine my shock, then, when there was a check card merchant authorization on EVERY SINGLE charge that W9's website told me had been denied. I now had a 2$ available balance in my bank account, as there had been eight separate 36$ charges to W9 for the pen. I called the company immediately during business hours on Thursday, and they told me that the charges would be reimbursed within 24-48 hours.

It is now Sunday the 3rd and I do not have the money in my account yet.

They've been very nice over the phone and this could all be a big mistake, which I'm assuming it is--something related to business days. But I wanted to give a heads-up to people ordering online--check your back account if the attempted purchase doesn't go through, because it's possible it went through anyways.
 
YungLeaner,

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I unfortunately am posting here due to a customer service issue, and to offer a warning regarding the W9 Tech's website operation. If things are fixed on Monday I will delete my post.

This happened on Wednesday the 30th, for the record. While trying to order an Omicron vaporizer with an extra coil, I entered in my debit card information. I pressed "complete," and the card was declined. I knew that my account has around 300$ in it, and the purchase was only for 36$, so I was confused. I entered, double-checked and re-entered my information numerous times, hoping to get the pen while it was still on sale for m girlfriend, whose Micro G is just not cutting it anymore. All of the order forms were denied, and I logged off the website discouraged.

Imagine my shock, then, when there was a check card merchant authorization on EVERY SINGLE charge that W9's website told me had been denied. I now had a 2$ available balance in my bank account, as there had been eight separate 36$ charges to W9 for the pen. I called the company immediately during business hours on Thursday, and they told me that the charges would be reimbursed within 24-48 hours.

It is now Sunday the 3rd and I do not have the money in my account yet.

They've been very nice over the phone and this could all be a big mistake, which I'm assuming it is--something related to business days. But I wanted to give a heads-up to people ordering online--check your back account if the attempted purchase doesn't go through, because it's possible it went through anyways.

I thank you for bringing this to my attention, it is unfortunate how these things turn out, but i have looked at the charges coming on that day and only one matches that criteria.

Here is what i see. Within 3 minutes we have 10 charges coming in from the same account. All of which was declined due to issues i wont say here.

Now this is where we can not control how things are processed with the credit card people.

Every time a charge is about to be made our bank asks your bank if the funds are available. When your bank says yes, it places a hold on the funds, mind you its not a full on withdrawal, it is just a hold so that if other transactions come in at that time the first come first serve method is followed.

Now that your bank has placed a hold on the funds by telling our bank yes we have the funds, our bank then proceeds to do its authentication of the card holders name, and address, then other checks and so on and so forth.

Once these checks are done and if all passes our bank then tells your bank we will be withdrawing the funds tonight at 12am when we settle out finances.

But our bank found some issues with the transaction and denied your purchase. Telling your bank hey we do not need the cash and that Somethings wrong, but your bank still thinking it could be fixed via phone and such still holds on to the funds.

Now come the second through tenth attempt to purchase. Each and every single one of your transactions has been denied by your bank because of some issue i wont mention here due to confidentiality.

And every time you hit submit there was another hold placed on your card by your bank. We have not withdrawn any funds from your account. It is your bank holding on to the funds thinking someone is going to take them.

Usually this takes 24-48 business hours for some banks to release, but that is up to the bank and some banks even go as far are 7-10 business days.

I do hope you understand that there is no way for us to change this.
 
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YungLeaner

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I thank you for bringing this to my attention, it is unfortunate how these things turn out, but i have looked at the charges coming on that day and only one matches that criteria.

Here is what i see. Within 3 minutes we have 10 charges coming in from the same account. All of which was declined due to issues i wont say here.

Now this is where we can not control how things are processed with the credit card people.

Every time a charge is about to be made our bank asks your bank if the funds are available. When your bank says yes, it places a hold on the funds, mind you its not a full on withdrawal, it is just a hold so that if other transactions come in at that time the first come first serve method is followed.

Now that your bank has placed a hold on the funds by telling our bank yes we have the funds, our bank then proceeds to do its authentication of the card holders name, and address, then other checks and so on and so forth.

Once these checks are done and if all passes our bank then tells your bank we will be withdrawing the funds tonight at 12am when we settle out finances.

But our bank found some issues with the transaction and denied your purchase. Telling your bank hey we do not need the cash and that Somethings wrong, but your bank still thinking it could be fixed via phone and such still holds on to the funds.

Now come the second through tenth attempt to purchase. Each and every single one of your transactions has been denied by your bank because of some issue i wont mention here due to confidentiality.

And every time you hit submit there was another hold placed on your card by your bank. We have not withdrawn any funds from your account. It is your bank holding on to the funds thinking someone is going to take them.

Usually this takes 24-48 business hours for some banks to release, but that is up to the bank and some banks even go as far are 7-10 business days.

I do hope you understand that there is no way for us to change this.

I will hopefully confirm some of this information with US Bank tomorrow. I promise that I don't mean to indict you guys or even imply that you did something wrong. I'm not embarrassed to say that the card may have been declined for insufficient funds, after the previous orders went through. I also believe there was a problem with the billing address based on my phone conversation with W9 Tech. But I also have screenshots of my mobile banking saved, and there are 8 separate check card authorizations being held for the amount of 36$, adding up to about 300$. There is no hold being currently placed by the bank on my funds, which I know for a fact because I spoke to US Bank on the phone today. I admit to not fully understanding the vagaries of payment processing systems and do not wish to start a fight. I will call the bank again and hope that they were wrong, maybe there is a hold? I am just confused because all of my money is gone!

EDIT: http://imgur.com/Md8b565
Here is my list of merchant check card authorizations, proof of the merchant (Utopia Planitia/ W9) authorizations, which I again repeat are NOT proof of any type of chicanery on W9's end. The charges have not come through yet but my bank and my bank records seem to suggest that your claim of my bank's holding my money is incorrect.

I've read your post several times, and I may understand now? What your saying is that my bank THINKS that you charged my card, and placed a hold on the funds for that reason, but you didn't charge the card on your end because something didn't work out. So did one charge go through? Did none? I called US Bank today and spoke to a lady there for awhile, and she said US Bank had no access to my funds.
:(
I'll just keep on keeping on, broke for now I guess.

Also, I'll delete this when the issue is resolved so that the thread can focus on the great work these guys are putting out.
 
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YungLeaner,

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@YungLeaner no charges have gone through, first one was rejected for reasons I will not state here, all of them intact where rejected by the same reason, it was not insufficient funds.

Also authorization does not mean the charge has been settled, it just means our bank asked your bank to put a hold on to the money when you pressed enter. It is the multiple times you entered after that has caused for all your funds to be placed on hold, but since there was an issue with the first transaction none have posted. Meaning no money has been withdrawn. Just on hold.
 
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YungLeaner

Well-Known Member
@YungLeaner no charges have gone through, first one was rejected for reasons I will not state here, all of them intact where rejected by the same reason, it was not insufficient funds.

Also authorization does not mean the charge has been settled, it just means our bank asked your bank to put a hold on to the money when you pressed enter. It is the multiple times you entered after that has caused for all your funds to be placed on hold, but since there was an issue with the first transaction none have posted. Meaning no money has been withdrawn. Just on hold.
Okay. Thank you for the heads up. I'd like to let you know that I must have been misinformed with my bank, and I'm sorry if I caused any trouble. The CS rep I spoke to told me that they weren't able to do anything until a hold had been released on your end, but I believe you that she was wrong and I'll call back as soon as I can. Thank you for the help.
 
YungLeaner,
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