Discontinued Pax 2

[Ojan_at_PAX]

Glad the screen is working for you, Mike...
The Pax2 that I have, since I bought it when it first came out, has the screen without the feet. I never saw the need to buy another one yet... Personally I think it may not make a difference in anything other than maybe how much cleaning there is to do (anybody have an opinion on this?).

The dimpled screen (feet) is only going to affect airflow if the screen is placed too low, so that the feet touch the floor of the oven and give some space for air/vapor. I know you all know the right way to place the screen, so it shouldn't make any difference for the ones with the smooth screen since they wouldn't touch the bottom anyway.

Bought from a local shop, box was open but everything looked brand new. Two units were ooen, one with the raised mouth piece and one with the flat. I grabbed the one with the raised, the silver. Got home and noticed the piece inside the box was also raised.

You should've received both a flat and raised mouthpiece! Every PAX 2 purchased from an authorized source has one of each. If you don't see a flat one anywhere, PM me and I'll send you a pack.

 

[Bandoo]

The dimpled screen (feet) is only going to affect airflow if the screen is placed too low, so that the feet touch the floor of the oven and give some space for air/vapor. I know you all know the right way to place the screen, so it shouldn't make any difference for the ones with the smooth screen since they wouldn't touch the bottom anyway.



You should've received both a flat and raised mouthpiece! Every PAX 2 purchased from an authorized source has one of each. If you don't see a flat one anywhere, PM me and I'll send you a pack.

Hi Ojan,
So what is the point of the design change in the screen?
What is the purpose of the dimples?
Neither can be laid flat anyway.
I used them both. They are the same size.
P2 works great.
Thanks.

Try the "hard bristle" cleaners, which should be similar to the type included with the P2. They have little bristles that can be irritating to your fingers but scrub the path without shedding. You can find 'em on Amazon, or just about anywhere.

I wouldn't use the bristly pipe cleaners. They usually have metal bristles. It will scratch up the ss air path..
Just run a new pipe cleaner through your fingers until no more fiber comes off then use it with the alcohol and it will be fine.

 

[mitchgo61]

I wouldn't use the bristly pipe cleaners. They usually have metal bristles. It will scratch up the ss air path..
Just run a new pipe cleaner through your fingers until no more fiber comes off then use it with the alcohol and it will be fine.

The ones included with the P2 are the bristly variety....I doubt they are harmful to the air path (and if so they shouldn't be provided by the manufacturer for use in the P2).

 

[Vapeconvert]

The ones included with the P2 are the bristly variety....I doubt they are harmful to the air path (and if so they shouldn't be provided by the manufacturer for use in the P2).

I have been using the cleaning tool from new vape (i don't work there), but I really like this metal tool! I start at mouth end, and slowly work down to the oven. When it comes out the oven there is a nice chunck of concentrate. I use this on the liquid pad in my crafty and it's great. Just another option out there.

 

[jurassicvape]

I got the screen with the feet. I've gone through about 6 grams of high end stuff with minimal cleaning. I pop the screen and mouth piece out and go over it with a few q tips and pipe cleaners mostly wet with water and just do a quick once or twice over, not even with ISO yet just water and there is almost no build up in the oven, the vapor path OR the mouth piece. It takes me probably five minutes to do every fourth or fifth time I empty the oven, hardly what I would consider intensive.

Beyond the raised mouth piece, this seems to have been engineered perfectly. Sounds like the flat piece is great though so once that isn't an issue I think I will be 100% satisfied with the Pax 2.

It does get pretty warm during extended use beyond the second heat setting, though I can't say it was ever painfully warm. But it is mostly confined to the oven area, never near the top where the flat piece meets the aluminum.

I consider the herb cashed after the second heat settings to try to avoid the other chemicals that have boiling temps too close to 3 or 4, so my ABV should still be pretty useful. And it takes a while to get it all even going from 1-2.

I did break my not going to 3 or 4 rule today just to see how much I'm leaving behind and I got 3 decent sessions out of it In heat settings 3 and 4, it was my last bit and just wanted to get a little more out of it. Pretty medicated for a solid 4-5 hours on a bowl I pronounced dead last night. Not bad. Probably gonna stick to 1-2 from now on unless I run out for an extended period or something, the whole point of giving up combustion was the anxiety related to the extra chemicals so those higher settings don't appeal to me much.

 

[JoeMama]

The dimpled screen (feet) is only going to affect airflow if the screen is placed too low, so that the feet touch the floor of the oven and give some space for air/vapor. I know you all know the right way to place the screen, so it shouldn't make any difference for the ones with the smooth screen since they wouldn't touch the bottom anyway.

Thanks, Ojan. I think I'll order some new screens anyway and try out the dimples. I've always liked dimples.

 

[Bandoo]

The ones included with the P2 are the bristly variety....I doubt they are harmful to the air path (and if so they shouldn't be provided by the manufacturer for use in the P2).

Thanks, Ojan. I think I'll order some new screens anyway and try out the dimples. I've always liked dimples.

Hey Joe, The dimpled screen is the exact same size as the plain ones.
They sit the same exact way and I don't see any way you can "place it too low."
The dimples are far from the bottom when it sits at the regular angle. It is impossible for it to sit flat on the bottom of the oven. Although that might be an interesting idea maybe, if the dimples were a few more mm's higher..
The only purpose I can see is if you packed the oven so full that the screen bows in the middle and the dimples at that end would keep that end from laying flat on the oven floor. I don't ever pack it that hard anyway because it would be way jammed in there and hard to get out.
The one other advantage is that you can hold them easier so they don't slip while cleaning.
Otherwise I don't understand the point and Ojan ain't talking specifics when asked what the idea was..
Maybe he will someday

 

[jurassicvape]

My oven doesn't even come close to laying flat. It just finds a spot when I drop it in and push it a down lightly and if it doesn't budge that's where its going.

Got some dental brushes, got home to clean it and I noticed it is flouride coated. Damn it. Already opened it too. I don't want to use anything on the oven with anything on it that can come off, just gonna use them as they were intended and find some plain ones later.

 

[Ojan_at_PAX]

So what is the point of the design change in the screen?

It's just an added failsafe in case the screen is pushed too far down, or if it's inserted so that the lower end is over the vapor path's opening. Ideally you want the higher side over the opening to maximize airflow, but the feet will stop the screen from totally occluding the opening if placed incorrectly. Not much else to it - the feet won't affect the majority of PAX users.

 

[Donny531]

Just received my replacement Pax in the mail today. Not to bad of a turnaround time as I dropped it in the mail in the morning on 8/18 and got my new one today 8/24. So a turn around time of 6 days (4 buisness days) is not to bad.

Thanks again @Ojan_at_PAX and the rest of the pax team for taking care of me.

 

[MikeG7265]

Has anyone had any trouble replacing screens? Popped mine out too close to the sink, garbage disposal got it, and I searched for at least an hour for it before I gave up.

I had one of the sandwich packs from new vape. But the screen didnt seem to fit. I purchased some authentic pax 2 screens from a local place today, and they don't seem to fit. They are all too big. Is it supposed to fit at an angle? My original fit just fine. Sorry, just a little confused.

 

[Donny531]

Has anyone had any trouble replacing screens? Popped mine out too close to the sink, garbage disposal got it, and I searched for at least an hour for it before I gave up.

I had one of the sandwich packs from new vape. But the screen didnt seem to fit. I purchased some authentic pax 2 screens from a local place today, and they don't seem to fit. They are all too big. Is it supposed to fit at an angle? My original fit just fine. Sorry, just a little confused.

Mike they are supposed to sit at a slight angle in the oven. I try to have the raised end over the air path so as not to block air flow.

The screens are not supposed to sit flush on the bottom of the oven.

 

[MikeG7265]

Mike they are supposed to sit at a slight angle in the oven. I try to have the raised end over the air path so as not to block air flow.

The screens are not supposed to sit flush on the bottom of the oven.

So just how much of an angle? If i put it to where the raised end is over the air path it literally sits at like a 30 degree angle, like halfway up the oven. My original that came with it didn't sit that high, it sat almost on the bottom, and both are the kind with the feet.
If the one I lost didn't fit so well I wouldn't be so concerned. I maybe doing something wrong.

 

[Donny531]

Just curious are you flattening them out by any chance?

 

[Wesmac33]

anyone know how long it takes Paxvapor to ship?
ordered yesterday and my order still says "processing" 24+ hours later.
not a big deal, just thought it would've made it out the door today.

 

[Bandoo]

It's just an added failsafe in case the screen is pushed too far down, or if it's inserted so that the lower end is over the vapor path's opening. Ideally you want the higher side over the opening to maximize airflow, but the feet will stop the screen from totally occluding the opening if placed incorrectly. Not much else to it - the feet won't affect the majority of PAX users.

Thank you Ojan for your reply and thank you for my Pax's!
Most of the other new vapes on the market are plagued with defective units, even the most expensive ones are not working out of the box or after a use or 2 or have pieces breaking or falling off or oven seals shifting, overheating, bad batteries, needing constant bs firmware updates to maybe work right etc etc.
Just cause the makers are stoned is no excuse for poor or non existent quality control.
People are sometimes on their 4'th+ replacement...(why do they stay with those models and not demand a refund? ) They used their customers as alpha and beta donkey testers.
Pax on the other hand perfected their vapes Before they started selling them.
Quality and integrity, the hallmark of a right-ous business.
Have a nice day.

 

[MikeG7265]

Just curious are you flattening them out by any chance?

No, they are actually flat in the pack. If i put it in longways, it sits at that high angle, and if I put it in width wise, it sits at the same angle. Either the screens aren't authentic, and since the screen I ordered from newvape fits the exact same way. I'm starting to wonder if I may have gotten a counterfeit, would be about my luck.

I have a support ticket to see if mine really is authentic. If it is then I'll see where to go from there.

 

[WakeAndVape]

No, they are actually flat in the pack. If i put it in longways, it sits at that high angle, and if I put it in width wise, it sits at the same angle. Either the screens aren't authentic, and since the screen I ordered from newvape for the exact same way. I'm starting to wonder if I may have gotten a counterfeit, would be about my luck.

I have a support ticket to see if mine really is authentic. If it is then I'll see where to go from there.

Do the screens seem bigger? The pax2 oven is 30% smaller than the old oven...which with my ignorant math skills might account for the 30° angle?

 

[MikeG7265]

Do the screens seem bigger? The pax2 oven is 30% smaller than the old oven...which with my ignorant math skills might account for the 30° angle?

That's exactly how it seems. And with the newvape screen not working, it's like my oven is too small But it's also weird that the original screen worked perfect. Snapped right in. Maybe a 5 degree angle. But these I can't even force them in, and I'm not trying hard because I don't want to damage the oven.

 

[WakeAndVape]

That's exactly how it seems. And with the newvape screen not working, it's like my oven is too small But it's also weird that the original screen worked perfect. Snapped right in. Maybe a 5 degree angle. But these I can't even force them in, and I'm not trying hard because I don't want to damage the oven.

We're they labled as pax2 screens? Also if your worried about the legitimacy of your pax2 I believe you can PM @Ojan_at_PAX and have him check your serial number and see

 

[MikeG7265]

We're they labled as pax2 screens? Also if your worried about the legitimacy of your pax2 I believe you can PM @Ojan_at_PAX and have him check your serial number and see

Yeah they were labeled pax 2, they're the ones with the feet and the scallops on the sides with the x in the middle.

If @Ojan_at_PAX could chime in I'd love to hear his thoughts. And wouldn't hurt to have my serial number checked just to be safe.

 

[jurassicvape]

My screen seems too big to fit as well, but it isn't quite 30 degrees tilted. Maybe about half that, maybe a little more. Doesn't seem to negatively impact the performance. Getting a lot of tiny particles from the mouth piece though.

 

[Justpassedu]

I have the screen with the 4 dimple's at the bottom. I never knew that it was supposed to sit at a angle so i been just popping it in flat and it did not take any effort , it pretty much just slides in for me with a tiny push. So far i have not had much particles get through at all into my air path and i have also not felt any real restriction of air flow. I also have the new vape screen and feel it gives it me a bit less airflow over the stock screen. I am sure you can also cut your own screen from some mesh screen and drop it in the oven as well. I have personally not tried that but i don't see why it would not work.

 

[MikeG7265]

Well I pm'd @Ojan_at_PAX to see if he can authenticate my serial number.

I also emailed new vape and asked how the bottom screen should fit, and they told me it should fit flush. All my screens sit at that high angle, except the one that came with it. None of the authentic replacement screens fit. So I'm really starting to think I have a counterfeit. I bought it off eBay ( I know ). So I've already started the resolution process. I really don't think if it was real that all my screens would sit so funny.

So I'm probably gonna go out and get one from an authorized dealer, so I'll at least have my warranty too. Plus I'm hooked on it now. Lol

I have to admit, when it works it's great, so if it's fake it's a good one.

 

[Ojan_at_PAX]

Happy to chime in! The surgical-grade stainless steel screens for both the original PAX and PAX 2 are intentionally bigger than the oven's dimensions. They lock into place when you press on the middle gently, and they bow a little bit in the shape of a hammock. Check out this image of how the screen should sit before you press on it to lock it in place. As long as you're getting good airflow then that's the important thing. I can't really speak to New Vape's 3rd party screen since I haven't tried one.

I saw your PM @MikeG7265 and will have an update for you asap! Regardless of authenticity, I highly recommend that you continue the resolution process you've started, as eBay purchases are unauthorized and don't come with a 10 year warranty.