Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Oscar_Milde]

Sent you a PM so we don't get off topic Branflakes, and see below:

Yeh I saw that on their website. I'll have to get the WPA from somewhere else

You can just use the extreme q elbow adapter that ausvapes do seem to stock, provided you have some glass with an 18mm downstem:
http://www.australianvaporizers.com.au/store/arizer-extreme-glass-elbow-adapter.html
Also live in a country lacking multiple comprehensive vaporizer retailers so can relate to your problem..

Tweak, your shorter wand and screen mod certainly does reduce priming time, my wand is quite long() and the fact that I'm using such a large tube definitely has a marked effect, resulting in my priming time being a good 4-5 seconds longer than yours. As you can see the whole circular breathing concept really stops that from mattering I assume that it was a typo when you said that hit in your video was 0.005, an extra zero in there perhaps? 200 4 hit wands from a single gram seems unlikely to me?

I also must make it clear that this hit is not using a minimum amount of material, I'd estimate there was 0.1-0.13 of herb and about a 0.05 of drysift packed into the wand which delivered 4 equally satisfying hits, although of course the first hit is always the tastiest due to volatile nature of terpenes.

Here's my video from this morning, am using a large straight tube because it's nostalgic for me and I just like the way the vapour feels in my lungs after it has a bit of time to cool down. I know I lose small amounts to re-condensation but to be brutally honest material to vape is not something I lack and I value my vaping pleasure above a little bit of oil I wouldn't vaporize anyway.

 

[Tweak]

I also must make it clear that this hit is not using a minimum amount of material, I'd estimate there was 0.1-0.13 of herb and about a 0.05 of drysift packed into the wand which delivered 4 equally satisfying hits

So you cheated, . Hell of a way to start your morning though, lol.

Yeah I meant .05, I was a little medicated after making the video and was ramble typing, .

You stated:

I can pull thick clouds off tiny amounts with standard setup so can't see why dome mod would be necessary

That was the point of my video and the discussion of the previous page. With the dome mod I can pull at normal draw speeds w/minimal material @ low temps.

I've been asked several times now why the screen mod would be different than just turning the heat up and drawing slower and I think I understand why now. In my previous post I showed an image of the heat source and how distance impacts the amount of heat.

By keeping the screen as close to the heat source, the heat can penetrate through the entire contents of the screen with as concentrated heat as possible. By drawing slower and higher heat, only the top layer of material can be penetrated, and then heat falls off exponentially.

To give an analogy, think of a water hose and trying to wash dirt/mud off of your car. The pressure, like heat and light, suffer from the inverse-square law. So to clean the most efficiently, you would use the highest pressure point, the tip of the hose as close as you can to the dirt. You could turn the water pressure up, using more water (electricity) and working longer (slower draw). But even then you have to go over spots twice because the lower pressure at farther distance isn't penetrating the dirt as much (stirring).

 

[Oscar_Milde]

So you cheated, . Hell of a way to start your morning though, lol.

Yeah I meant .05, I was a little medicated after making the video and was ramble typing, .

I actually didn't ever say I planned to make a video of pulling huge clouds off small amounts, merely stated that I can easily do so by varying draw speed.

I even posted an earlier warning that my video was not going to be conservative, I said:

I'm going to rope someone in to help me film my method for pulling massive hits from the SSV, be warned though, my method doesn't exactly conserve herb

..which I think I did relatively effectively!

I do prefer slightly larger loads usually as I can allow my tastebuds to experience full-on terpene overdose, the video is a good example of my average hit from the SSV which was what I was aiming to illustrate here

If you have any doubt about the veracity of my claim or feel I have cheated I can happily make a video of me getting almost identical results off a smaller (0.05) hit, didn't realise I had anything to prove lol..

Again it seems to me that adjusting (and prolonging) draw speed is more of a chore for you than it is for me, I don't try to minimize it, rather relish the variable mid-hit temperature control. Using a watt or two extra means nothing to me, I'm not the type to turn out the lights as I walk out of a room so getting all persnickety about my SSV using electricity seems hypocritical and silly in my situation.

Also find it interesting that you experience uneven browning with smaller hits, I find when a small amount of material is used it's even easier to achieve even browning.

Is this only with the EQ screen mod? I do find it easier to brown the top unevenly when the distance from the HC to screen in minimized, the gap seems to allow the heat to spread out a bit and allow for more even vaporization of the sides of the wand...

I guess it all comes down to wand length and whether or not you are put off by slightly increased draw time, both methods seem effective if you ask me...

 

[Tweak]

I actually didn't ever say I planned to make a video of pulling huge clouds off small amounts

Well you kinda did.

I can pull thick clouds off tiny amounts.......I need to post a video or two I think..

I guess I was expecting some validity to the claims cause I haven't had much success with placing material at the bottom. I've tried drawing slow and using a small amount, only to get wispy hits. Even with my EQ dome, if I put in .02 gs I get wispy hits. It takes at least .05 gs, enough to cover the entire screen.

If you could make a vid of some big clouds using .05 placed on the bottom screen I would love to see. I would be so happy.

Again it seems to me that adjusting (and prolonging) draw speed is more of a chore for you than it is for me

Not really. Just thought it was unnecessary, . I share my SSV a lot, I can't control how other people draw but can keep variables controlled that will make it easier for them, that is all. I never said your method is wrong or a chore. I'm glad the SSV is working great for you, .

Also find it interesting that you experience uneven browning with smaller hits, I find when a small amount of material is used it's even easier to achieve even browning.

That was another user that stated that, and he is using a SGG wand and not the standard.

I can cause it to brown it the temperature is too high, but I don't see how is any different than any other method. Actually with the EQ screen you have more control over where the HC stream hits, it is only 1mm away from the HC's output hole. That isn't possible with the SGG as there is a gap between where the screen sits and the HC.

As I stated before, I don't see how its possible to direct your heat path, especially to the edges of the mariah, as once the air leaves the heater cover by just a couple mm's, the air is no longer in a vortex and is spreading out, as in the image I posted.

 

[Oscar_Milde]

Okay, after reading your post I eagerly weighed out 0.05g and loaded up the wand in the interest of proving my point (I think I underestimated just how miniscule 0.05 is, haven't weighed out an amount that small in a while lol).
In short, I dismally failed. I metaphorically eat my words! Seems I need at least 0.1g to yield the kind of hit I'm looking for at normal temperature, which to be fair I still think is a small amount (Not to say I wasn't totally wrong about being able to pull a decent cloud of 0.05, seems doubting the veracity of my statement was the right move!).
Not sure if this warrants a video, as it's not exactly an impressive feat
All in all it's good you called me on that as I was clearly mistaken, and like any logical human being I'm glad to admit when I am
I can see how your screen mod would be extremely(Q) useful to someone trying to conserve herb to the max, but yeah, I'm not hahaha so I have little use for it The gif is great btw, I'm a bit of a gif aficionado!

Not really. Just thought it was unnecessary, . I share my SSV a lot, I can't control how other people draw but can keep variables controlled that will make it easier for them, that is all. I never said your method is wrong or a chore. I'm glad the SSV is working great for you, .

Yeah, most of the people I vape with are used to bonging I guess, very public spirited of you lol, I think I'm a little more selfish with my SSV, I tailor it to my personal taste as much as possible. I wasn't implying that you said my method was wrong, and wouldn't mind if you did think my method was a chore, though I now understand that was not the case, it was motivated by the sentiment mentioned above

By keeping the screen as close to the heat source, the heat can penetrate through the entire contents of the screen with as concentrated heat as possible. By drawing slower and higher heat, only the top layer of material can be penetrated, and then heat falls off exponentially.

I thought this statement referenced uneven browning you experienced, in retrospect it might not?

 

[BranFlakes188]

I can see how your screen mod would be extremely(Q) useful to someone trying to conserve herb to the max

That's me, it's expensive where I'm living so a few bucks on EQ screens could translate to hundreds or even thousands of dollars in the long run. Works such a treat in the SGG, a totally uniform vape (of "intense" heat) across the whole surface of a tiny amount of herb. Hardly need to worry about priming or even stirring. Luvin it

 

[Oscar_Milde]

Got slightly better results vaping 0.05 in my standard wand by turning the temp up even further after a little experimentation last night, but only about half as dense as a good hit should be.

I'm starting to think a shorter wand might be nice...

 

[Fresh_Baked]

So, my second round of QWISO is now done and I'm not really sure what to think.

It seems to be the same. It's pretty liquid-y so I'm not sure how to use it. right now I just put it on some wax paper and folded it in half.

It's slightly greener than last time, but maybe because I also used stems this time.

It's like melted chocolate, almost caramel-ish in texture. Not solid enough to get a dab on a dabber though.

Not to mention I don't have an oil rig, so how do I use this stuff with my SSV?

 

[Vitolo]

 

[Fresh_Baked]

Wow thanks! Very helpful. I actually bought a bag of cotton balls a while ago for this purpose but was not sure if there were any ill effects to heating the cotton like that.

Which brings me to my next question, how high do I crank the temp on my SSV for oil? My biggest fear is the cotton ball catching fire or burning and me inhaling the fumes from that.

 

[Vitolo]

Cotton will not brown until VERY high temps.
Use the normal SSV temperature.
vape a few big hits... then turn that plug around and vape it backwards.

 

[Breathemetal]

Cotton will not brown until VERY high temps.
Use the normal SSV temperature.
vape a few big hits... then turn that plug around and vape it backwards.

whats a good brand of cotton to buy?
i tried some oil once in some cotton and it tasted horrible (and it was good oil before you ask me that)

 

[Vitolo]

As long as it says "COTTON" it is fine.
If it says "Cosmetic Puffs"
or
Cottony-soft Make up puffs...
Then it is not cotton
Cotton has this on the bag:

 

[Oscar_Milde]

FB, do as I suggested in our conversation next time and get everything to freezer temp before starting the extraction, you'll pull a lot less undesirables out of your material.
Shouldn't be green, especially if it's made from AVB, those oils are generally dark and sticky.
I run mine at around 1.30 for extracts..

 

[technique]

I dare say I gave the FV maker the idea of using this unit when I originally got my FV and used this to make a video.
They are 49¢ and ship immediately (I received the 1/2 dozen I ordered in 5 days)
There is free shipping also!
http://www.miniinthebox.com/nanzihan-163-water-cigarette-pipe_p195592.html

I have finally received this and it is tiny, how do I attach this to my ssv or mini whip?

 

[Oscar_Milde]

I would try and connect the whip to the intake directly, or is it too small?

 

[technique]

I would try and connect the whip to the intake directly, or is it too small?

Far too small even for the mini whip

 

[Oscar_Milde]

Yeah, I found another picture with someone holding it online a moment ago, I see how tiny it is. Going to have to Macgyver some type of nozzle onto there perhaps, wonder how hot the vapor would be at that point, probably need something glass. What about the an Extreme-Q elbow used the wrong way around, with the whip going into the GG side (It does actually fit perfectly) and the ribbed side into the mini bubbler? Hard to guess what would fit without dimensions of the hole or the item in question in front of me..

Perhaps Vitolo has an answer?

 

[Vitolo]

You will have to rig a connector.
A couple pieces of silicone tube of varying thickness/diameter.
I found the silicone cover for e cig carts to work.. as do I find the silicone test tips (like Omicron uses) to me helpful.

 

[PurpleDazed]

Hey folks

Im looking to get a ssv and wonder if i can get your opinions on the new ones?

My Vaping experience is extensive and i luv to use my log vapes with a bubbler. but im looking for some big ripping clouds i dont get with the logs.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

If you love glass I reccomend the LSV, if you want a whip style go with SSV. Either way you won't be disappointed in your search for the monster rip....

 

[BranFlakes188]

Got the SSV a little over a month ago and been ripping giant clouds ever since. Look over the last few pages of this thread to see how you can mod it with an EQ screen for those monster rips with very little material. Highly recommended!

 

[Oscar_Milde]

Have had a similar experience to branflakes, been using mine about 6 weeks and am extremely satisfied with all aspects of the experience.
The post above suggesting an lsv if you love vapor bonging is very valid, although if you are a heavy consumer the fact that the ssv can be left on permanently without overheating is a big plus.
Am waiting on my local vape supplier's shipment of lsv's to arrive so I can get mine, the ideo of eliminating the whip really appeals to me!

 

[Vitolo]

Purple....
The new SSVs are identical to the SSVs we all know and love.
SSV is a rock.
Mine has been on 24/7 for 3 years.
I use it daily and it has always been my go to vape.
The only time it falls from use is during my testing of other vaporizers.
I always come back!

 

[Tweak]

SSV is a rock.
Mine has been on 24/7 for 3 years.
I use it daily and it has always been my go to vape.
The only time it falls from use is during my testing of other vaporizers.
I always come back!

May I ask why you prefer the SSV over all other vapes, like the LSV or even the cloud? Is it the 24/7 capability?

I know a lot of users hate on whips, I don't mind them. My SSV tastes mighty fine, especially on lower temps.

If your SSV would ever fail, I would hope that 7th floor would donate you one, you deserve it Vitolo.