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m0sh

Singer Song Writer Stoner
breaking bad is a fictional tv show about making meth and they were working with acids not absolute ethanol. different compounds do different things. if you got a liter for$20 you got a great deal because it's running $100/ liter from scientific supply websites, also if you are just storing in a bottle that you have taken the top off and allowed humid air at it you now have everclear not absolute alcohol.

I know its a tv series I used it as sorta of a joke...but its the same logic acid and ethanol, read OF above me.
 
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Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
So what you are saying is that iso is dangerous especially if ingested which we do? I swear I don't want to learn anymore about the stuff that ends up in my body:disgust:
 
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clouded vision

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I did read his post and there is nothing in it about cost, or it pulling humidity out of the air, he was talking about plastic vs. glass containers, either I'd which are safe but at 95.6 ethanol is an azeotrope meaning you can't purify it any further using normal distillation, also for ethanol pressure swings won't work like some other azeotropes. OF goes on to say that most of the time it is denatured alcohol which is very different from absolute ethanol. the only reason I see to use ethanol over iso is if you plan to make a tincture and not fully evaporate our in which case denatured alcohol is not safe to use
.Dreamerr iso is safe to use as a solvent as long as you fully evaporate it out
 
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OF

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if you are just storing in a bottle that you have taken the top off and allowed humid air at it you now have everclear not absolute alcohol.

While this is true in a absolute sense, in practice it's not an issue. First off, provided you seal it again, there's a trivial amount of water vapor in the 'airspace'. IIRC vapor pressure of water at room temperarure is something like 20mm. So if it was 100% HR (you were in a fog bank) that would be only (20/760) X 100%, about 2.6% water vapor. If you trapped an entire liter of it, that would be what 1/25th of a mole total gas, 2.5% of that water water so there's .001 mole of water. MAXIMUM. 18 miligrams against a kilogram (give or take) of ETOH. That would make it what? 99.9982% by weight if it all was absorbed in the ETOH. Close enough to 100% for most uses.

Less than a full liter of air trapped or doing it someplace other than a fog bank (less than 100% RH) and that contamination goes down. Likewise if you trap a more reasonable amount. For our uses I'd cork it back up and not worry about it. Even heavily contaminated with water, it's still a good solvent for what we want.

So what you are saying is that iso is dangerous especially if ingested which we do? I swear I don't want to learn anymore about the stuff that ends up in my body:disgust:

Only in very large amounts. The 50% LD is something like a shot glass full. Medical types breathe the vapor all day long for dozens of years without issues.

Life is not safe, but IMO ISO used reasonably is not dangerous.

OF goes on to say that most of the time it is denatured alcohol which is very different from absolute ethanol.

No, I did not say that, now did I? I said "Absolute alcohol is often sold with a little bit of methyl alcohol in it. Called 'Denatured' or 'methylated' often. Huge difference I think. In no way did I say absolute ethanol is "most of the time it is denatured alcohol". Denatured alcohol (or Methylated Spirits in the UK) is just a cheap and convenient way to get the ETOH solvent we want without the liquor tax issues.....and it's always labeled somewhat other than 'drink me'......

IMO legitimate products sold as absolute ethanol are absolute ethanol....100%, nothing extra added.

OF

Edit: Here's an example of Denatured Alcohol sold as a shellac solvent, five bucks a quart:
http://www.goodboatgear.com/detail/1862/ Denatured Alcohol?gclid=CLyTq--51bYCFWXZQgod0jwA3A
 

m0sh

Singer Song Writer Stoner
^^ Great post, there's always going to be air trapped inside the bottle(airspace) like you said.
 
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OF

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Gentle Friends,

I just bought a bag of the legendary 112 Silicone o-rings folks are using to secure their stems. IMO they don't work all that well as they can restrict the flow still more by sealing it up (as o-rings tend to). IMO the thinner (smaller cord) ring TV uses on the Cera works much better, but I think you have to try for yourself?

These are the genuine article, 450F rated.

So, here's my personal little 4/20 special. PM me your name and address and I'll mail you a few at my cost? The offer is open until midnight 4/20 or, until I run of rings, stamps or envelopes.

Or maybe just get tired of addressing envelopes?

No promises, but that's my intent. Free to Solo owners in the US (sorry, I'm not interested in fighting the PO over this one....).

Anyway, "get 'em quick, before they're all gone"?

Happy 4/20 to all our readers. Best wishes to all.

OF
 

smokum

I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
OF I get what you're saying but you should also keep in mind that there is a concentration threshold that needs to be reached before you can actually feel effect. Or your toleration should be at or below sea level.

Question remains, can you get an experience from heating bud to 180-220°F.

I would expect the answer to be no under normal circumstances.



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Greenmile1332

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Hey guys... I don't want to use any harmful tape so I was wondering what kind of tape someone0 suggested to cover the hole in a 14mm gong adapter with a carb........ maybe it was silicon...?/ Was wondering on the correct type, and maybe what it looks like/ where to purchase?!?!

Oh.... and the adapter to be able to use the solo while on charger. (not charging, but not using juice)..... whats that called and where can it be found?


Thanks guys!
HealthRocks!
 
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I was wondering what kind of tape someone0 suggested to cover the hole in a 14mm gong adapter with a carb........ maybe it was silicon...?/


Oh.... and the adapter to be able to use the solo while on charger. (not charging, but not using juice)..... whats that called and where can it be found?

That someone would be me. Sharing your concerns I used plumbing thread tape. Basically a long strip (half inch or so wide) of pure Teflon (no adhesive) on a spool. You can get it in the plumbing department of hardware stores. I used 4 or 5 turns one over the last. Stretch the last turn a bit and it'll stay put just fine. Easy, cheap and clean.

http://www.amazon.com/4-Rolls-Teflo...66386313&sr=1-3&keywords=teflon+tape+plumbing

What is the name of the power adapter for the Solo? The Solo Power Adapter:
http://www.planetvape.ca/solo-vaporizer-power-adapter.html

Regards,

OF
 

thesoloman

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Hey guys... I don't want to use any harmful tape so I was wondering what kind of tape someone0 suggested to cover the hole in a 14mm gong adapter with a carb........ maybe it was silicon...?/ Was wondering on the correct type, and maybe what it looks like/ where to purchase?!?!

Oh.... and the adapter to be able to use the solo while on charger. (not charging, but not using juice)..... whats that called and where can it be found?


Thanks guys
HealthRocks!
what about taking any tape, lets say duct-tape, and cutting a small piece of aluminum foil to stick over the carb, that way its sealed with metal but held on by tape.
 
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OF

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what about taking any tape, lets say duct-tape, and cutting a small piece of aluminum foil to stick over the carb, that way its sealed with metal but held on by tape.

That would work, as would overwrap with wire, string, dental floss or whatever (many without heat issues) but you know the purists......

I went with the PTFE tape, mostly because I had it and knew what to expect?

OF
 
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zippobong

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You know the salt trick, right? Add some coarse ground salt to the ISO. A little will dissolve in the water part, but the rest stays as grains and can be shaken back and forth to 'scrub' the walls for you. Pour it all down the sink and rinse and you're ready to go on with the cleaning/drying.

In such cases I use a fair bit of salt maybe 1/4 of the ISO volume?

OF
OF the salt trick worked perfectly!!
Do you got any tips on drying the stems fast?

Thanks!!
 
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Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
zip, personally I just blow the excess out shake and use. I guess that is why I made the comment yesterday about all this crap in my body but I don't care as much as others I suppose. You can always use another stem while that one dries. I have done that as well. I don't use iso on the stems anymore unless I just need a clean one. I rather boil and reclaim cause it is fun and I just learned how to do it.
 
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clouded vision

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zip, personally I just blow the excess out shake and use. I guess that is why I made the comment yesterday about all this crap in my body but I don't care as much as others I suppose. You can always use another stem while that one dries. I have done that as well. I don't use iso on the stems anymore unless I just need a clean one. I rather boil and reclaim cause it is fun and I just learned how to do it.
You can also use iso to help reclaim your stem oil the same way you can reclaim from your grinder, just make sure you fully evaporate it and you have pure stem oil left
 
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Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Yea I have two bottles of iso/oil but they aren't dirty enough yet to evaporate since I stopped cleaning my stems in it. I am going to have to clean my grinders and then evap it. My grinders are oily as anything.

I do the stems in water cause then I can just use it to cook. I have yet to evap my iso as said above and I have been using the iso for almost a year.
 
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Picked up a stealth adapter for shits and giggles. I can't really see using it much, but maybe it'll be fun for street festivals and what not.

edit: best to keep to low temps if using a real straw. I don't have any around to test, but those higher temps sure feel hot enough to melt plastic.
 
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mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
Picked up a stealth adapter for shits and giggles. I can't really see using it much, but maybe it'll be fun for street festivals and what not.

edit: best to keep to low temps if using a real straw. I don't have any around to test, but those higher temps sure feel hot enough to melt plastic.

been using my steath adapter in my McDonalds cup for a LONG time and i can tell you even at 7 the straw does not melt. i typically vape at 4 and move up to 6 but have done 7 a couple of times
 
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smokum

I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
Lol I know that list.

Read back a little and see how off topic your reply actually is;)

Not really... I'm confirming your statement with the list of temps (in other words: I agree).


Yet, on the other hand... don't forget about the 30% psychological high effect ;)
 
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Zookeeper

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Lowepro Tahoe 30 case works great for travel. Solo plus charger or grinder, and has a separate stem pouch that works great with bent stems. You can check em out at most walmarts, radioshacks,etc


Perfect amount of padding, no extra bulk.


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zippobong

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zip, personally I just blow the excess out shake and use. I guess that is why I made the comment yesterday about all this crap in my body but I don't care as much as others I suppose. You can always use another stem while that one dries. I have done that as well. I don't use iso on the stems anymore unless I just need a clean one. I rather boil and reclaim cause it is fun and I just learned how to do it.
Thanks Dreamerr,
actually i cant wait to reclaim my stems "milk style", but as i'll let one of the three i've bought just to stealth missions, i rather keep this one as clean as possible ( but i'm sure i'll get myself with a wet stem and in a hurry very soon ;(

But then again if i clean it asap after using with ISO i can keep it as a Milkshake stem - i'm thinking about a way to make the red lines on it, maybe painting or a sticker, or even a bigger plastic colorstriped stem over the glass one... Any ideas??
 
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