The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

[General Disaster]

No. I talked about the v1 upgrade kit. The one I just linked. It's to upgrade the v1. It will start being sold this month or next month.
Not to upgrade the beta unit.

You are talking about the beta upgrade kit which was called beta upgrade kit.

Hence my original question - couldn't see why you didn't just say that, but no biggie.

But I still don't see where your pain comes from. As best I can tell, @Brenyo's improved it further and offered the bits at a discount, and you're suddenly unhappy? The T1 is no different because of that, it's just some better bits to stick on it - we all bought our T1's as they came, you can't expect perfection as I said, and someone who strives to continue improving something is a good thing in my book. The upgraded bits are an option for them as wants, but no-one has to buy it.

I don't know any manufacturer that constantly improves something and then gives it away for free (or dirt cheap), making a loss and maybe never producing a new idea because of that loss? Or did you feel the T1 didn't work very well and needs this kit to become acceptable? I guess that could explain it, though I never thought of the T1 like that myself.
Do you actually have any other data on the kit, the website seemed to have little that I could see.

 

[humbuckers]

I don't really see your point. If you release a new version not even a year after the original product came out I would expect an upgrade pack for people who bought the original product at a significant price reduction.

You claimed that you cannot expect "perfection out of the box when playing with new ideas". That's why I said it was developed and tested for years. It's not like someone made this in his garage, sold it to people and now gets feedback for the first time.

You said the time it is out does not matter. Would you also think it would have been fine if a new version was released 1 week after the v1 was sold out, together with an upgrade pack 25% of the price of the new product? One day? One minute? Where is the cutoff?

There is no cutoff. New ideas arose from V1 feedback, leading to producing these new ideas, now planing on selling them. These new ideas are also easier to produce. Have you noticed how long V1 has been out of stock?

Now to address the main point, upgrade kits are a gift sent from the vape gods. He has so obligation whatsoever to produce an upgrade kit. Judging from the nearly 400 pages of this thread, there will be a long list of happy buyers without an upgrade kit at all. Get a clue dude. Honestly insane to see what some people complain about

 

[Doug.dimmaglow]

Ooo, very active day on the forum.

I don't really see your point. If you release a new version not even a year after the original product came out I would expect an upgrade pack for people who bought the original product at a significant price reduction.

You claimed that you cannot expect "perfection out of the box when playing with new ideas". That's why I said it was developed and tested for years. It's not like someone made this in his garage, sold it to people and now gets feedback for the first time.

You said the time it is out does not matter. Would you also think it would have been fine if a new version was released 1 week after the v1 was sold out, together with an upgrade pack 25% of the price of the new product? One day? One minute? Where is the cutoff?

As a newbie to all this, I’m honestly shocked at how responsive and attentive @Brenyo has been here. I’ve been in other high dollar niche communities where even getting a response to a DM has been like pulling teeth, if you even get one. Dudes running a small business with clients all across the world, and (from what I can see) is doing a pretty good job. Maybe the vape community is different, but I’m pleasantly surprised that he even offered these upgrade kits. Most other makers I’ve interacted with wouldn’t have even offered that and would instead just push the newer, more expensive product. it’s not like the v1 tempests are unusable, right?

 

[DaBouse]

I ordered ruby and quartz balls for the v2. Sounds like a lot of people are using ruby. Any preferences so far?

Also, silly question, the stem airflow, the v2 option is open and closed right? Wasn’t sure if the small slit in the air port served a functional purpose.

 

[HoodiesAndHondas]

Ooo, very active day on the forum.



As a newbie to all this, I’m honestly shocked at how responsive and attentive @Brenyo has been here. I’ve been in other high dollar niche communities where even getting a response to a DM has been like pulling teeth, if you even get one. Dudes running a small business with clients all across the world, and (from what I can see) is doing a pretty good job. Maybe the vape community is different, but I’m pleasantly surprised that he even offered these upgrade kits. Most other makers I’ve interacted with wouldn’t have even offered that and would instead just push the newer, more expensive product. it’s not like the v1 tempests are unusable, right?

Nailed it. Brenyo is the man. He’s not only active here. He responds frequently on Reddit too. Him, Vgoodiez and The Rogue Wax Works are the best that I’ve found in the dry herb vape scene when it comes to customer service. They’re all extremely responsive and helpful to any questions/concerns anyone has.

I haven’t been closely following the nitpicking here about the upgrade kits from some people, so maybe I missed something. But it all feels so petty in the grand scheme, so it’s not even worth bothering with, in my opinion. And you hit the nail on the head that most companies would just let the V1 of a product fall off into nothingness, and push the newer version harder. I’m glad Brenyo isn’t doing that, because there’s a ton of happy V1 owners out there who will benefit from the upgrade kit.

 

[jay87]

Yessir. Green is on the way for me.

Wood Sleeve (V2)

Each Wood Sleeve will vary in color and grain due to the organic nature of wood. Compatible with the Tempest V2 Stabilised Maple Burl Wood Tempest not included.

madheaters.co.uk

Same here, shoutout to these replies calling out the sleeves now being sold, that's 100% what allowed me to get one of these beautiful green stems purchased before they sold out.

The natural looks gorgeous too, I love burl

 

[.d]

You guys are making me wanna order from the UK site with these sexy pics, am afraid now it will sell out before VDN orders them

 

[Karadji GreenSea]

Im impressed how well calibrated are my snap discs on the Tempest V2 with 2.5zirc balls as heat matrix.
Heating with the wand on 320•c until time out and 0.1 on the bowl.Ive being loyal to b2b 0.1 bowls
I get 2minutes session, 45seconds later I get the first click and 2'30" I get the second click, its means the cap is ok to be touched bare hand, on the T2 there isn't need to use SS as heat matrix at all the excessive heat only drys up the throat and it was taking over 3 minutes to snap back the second click as I it is calibrated to snap when is good be touched.
Ive stick with the rubies on the T1 such great flavour with around 1'30" sesh, excited to test the upgrade with the rubies may reach 2" sesh also.

 

[General Disaster]

A beautiful natural wooden sleeve replete with enough crazy grain to keep a stoned mind (well, my mind at least!) occupied for hours, has just dropped on mah doorstep!
And very nice it is too! I wooden[sic] know how to criticise it!

And looky here! Even my spending just a measly 40 squid and he still can't resist throwing in some spare bowl screens!
There are some other great vapes been designed, and then the company lets itself down with poor customer comms alone, never mind the rest. And the funny thing is 80% of it only costs 20% effort and yet turns the company into something much loved and defended as with MH.

So, who's going to be brave (and skilled) enough to cut out those holes found in the metal sleeves with the wooden ones?
(some show-off I'll be bound! (jealousy becomes me! ))

Wow! A bong with a stiffy! Why can I not stop seeing that??? Oh dear!

("Oh dear!" - I mean me, not the bong! That's very cool!)

 

[General Disaster]

Aw! Not again!! I thought I'd overcome my double-posting mania!

 

[HaggisHunter]

You guys are making me wanna order from the UK site with these sexy pics, am afraid now it will sell out before VDN orders them

I think the stock levels this time round are much fuller than before. I want some too, but need to wait, I'll be waiting nervously with you.

So, who's going to be brave (and skilled) enough to cut out those holes found in the metal sleeves with the wooden ones?

I'm tempested (I tried, I've already got my coat, and I'm on my way out the door) to do so, but maybe not with the ones I was gifted.
I'll buy more and try. I even got a new Dremel type tool not long ago to try it out on.

 

[Cru]

I mainly use this setting for DTL. I tend to use the bong most of the time. When I do DTL natively I drop the temp to 320c. I still think it's convection heavy as the AVB gets fully cooked but is not too dark

Ive swapped the 3mm Zirc balls into my V1 now, so when I do want a more chilled out MTL session this is ideal! 280c is my V1 standard temp

To me it seems Tv2 is a tighter fit for the ball chamber due to the fixed height locking screen.
Tv1: I can get 84 * 2.5mm or 44 * 3.0mm shaking/settling as they're put in.
Tv2: 84 * 2.5mm or 44 3.0mm, while possible, is much harder to fit requiring even placement at start and shaking/settling as they're put in once past the critical start area.
Either way, both heads seem about the same in number of balls.
I do like the added overall mass of the Tv2 head and the larger bowl which seems to distribute the heat a bit more evenly.
Currently running side-by-side Tv1 and Tv2 heads on Tv1 stems with 44 * 3.0mm Ruby balls in each with Wand as heater using v2 Wand Adapter.
Tv2 head improves on the already great design enough that I can say for certain I will be ordering a second full device and a few extra heads.

How do you manage to put 44 x 3mm balls in the T2 chamber? I can barely fit 39. Looks like I am missing something..

 

[General Disaster]

I'm tempested ...

Nice! I like word play!!

Yeah, I'd be far too scared of turning it into a doorstop within 3.702 seconds of laying tool on sleeve (hmmm, that could be interpreted a little differently? ), and that's before considering my ineptitude when it comes to tangible craftsmanship! But it looked from my inexpert eye to be quite possible. Not thinking of function, more the nice contrast of those Ti fins showing through the beautiful wood grained sleeve, as shown to great effect by @kokolokokolokon.

 

[onedeep601]

It took some time to get my T2 dialed in but after trying several different balls, figuring the airport, and other suttle features, my conclusion is the T2 is the perfect vape! No deficiencies in any area!

 

[Cru]

It took some time to get my T2 dialed in but after trying several different balls, figuring the airport, and other suttle features, my conclusion is the T2 is the perfect vape! No deficiencies in any area!

I am still experimenting and looking for the best taste, good vapor and a smooth experience. A bit struggling with the harshness of the vapor. If anyone has some ideas about that, would be very welcome.
PS: using 3mm rubies btw.

 

[Caliban]

Evening everyone.

The wooden sleeves are back in stock, and I noticed there are some factory seconds up for grabs

Factory seconds.

@onedeep601 & @Cru , can you share your settings etc? I find using water piece, but without any water in it, really helps to cool the vapor.

 

[Cru]

Evening everyone.

The wooden sleeves are back in stock, and I noticed there are some factory seconds up for grabs

Factory seconds.

@onedeep601 & @Cru , can you share your settings etc? I find using water piece, but without any water in it, really helps to cool the vapor.

@Caliban Sure, I am using 3mm rubies, airflow cap at about 1/3 open, same on stem, depth in the wand a bit higher than in the manual, heating up until time out at 230c. Higher temps, i.e. longer heating, destroys all the taste for me and the AVB is too dark. At 230c it is light brown. But vapor is still quite harsh natively. Sure could use it with water, but that also steals too much taste (even without water in the filter).

 

[sentabi]

I was wondering what extra goodies come in the box? I know there are a bunch of ball options and the adapter but i was wondering if there was anything else.

 

[HaggisHunter]

Nice! I like word play!!

Yeah, I'd be far too scared of turning it into a doorstop within 3.702 seconds of laying tool on sleeve (hmmm, that could be interpreted a little differently? ), and that's before considering my ineptitude when it comes to tangible craftsmanship! But it looked from my inexpert eye to be quite possible. Not thinking of function, more the nice contrast of those Ti fins showing through the beautiful wood grained sleeve, as shown to great effect by @kokolokokolokon.

My wife is staying with her mum for the weekend, so it's been full steam ahead since she left. With the big bowl as well, it somehow sounded better in my head

I like the idea of drilling lots of little holes into the grooves near the mouthpiece, all the way round them.

 

[Minsc_NBoo]

How do you manage to put 44 x 3mm balls in the T2 chamber? I can barely fit 39. Looks like I am missing something..

I had 44 3mm Zirconia preinstalled when I got the T2. When I swapped the 3mm rubies I could only fit 42 comfortably. I could probably get 2 more in but I was worried about the ball screen catching

All 44 3mm zirc went into my OG Tempest though!

It's really nice having 2 different set ups ready to go. My ebony is now my 0.05 MTL sipper. T2 big bowl cloud machine. I'm actually really looking forward to getting the V1 upgrade kit now.

 

[General Disaster]

With the big bowl as well

Oh no! Not ...
... The BIG Bowl!!!!?
Dum dum duuuuuum

I like the idea of drilling lots of little holes ...

I figured with the right kit it ought to be possible to pretty much emulate the same cutouts as the metal shields. I guess it'd be a slow job even then, especially sanding the cutouts, but seeing the Ti fins show through would be cool. Actually, someone with an imagination could probably do something different (hole pattern) but just as good looking, I find the natural sleeve with the titanium, has a very good look. The wood reminds me of polished soapstone, which also got me thinking ...

 

[MegaChip]

Does anyone know a fitting mouthpiece (and maybe condenser) for the tempest? The dynavap condenser is a bit too long for the tempest and the mouthpieces seem a bit small.

 

[onedeep601]

Evening everyone.

The wooden sleeves are back in stock, and I noticed there are some factory seconds up for grabs

Factory seconds.

@onedeep601 & @Cru , can you share your settings etc? I find using water piece, but without any water in it, really helps to cool the vapor.

I'm using the 3mm rubies, airflow cap also about 1/3 open, stem fully closed. I heat with wand using T2 adapter at 490 until time out. That usually takes my Vi to the 2nd mark.

 

[onedeep601]

I am still experimenting and looking for the best taste, good vapor and a smooth experience. A bit struggling with the harshness of the vapor. If anyone has some ideas about that, would be very welcome.
PS: using 3mm rubies btw.

Try closing your airport fully and sip

 

[HaggisHunter]

Nice! I like word play!!

Yeah, I'd be far too scared of turning it into a doorstop within 3.702 seconds of laying tool on sleeve (hmmm, that could be interpreted a little differently? ), and that's before considering my ineptitude when it comes to tangible craftsmanship! But it looked from my inexpert eye to be quite possible. Not thinking of function, more the nice contrast of those Ti fins showing through the beautiful wood grained sleeve, as shown to great effect by @kokolokokolokon.

I'd agree, his stems do indeed look very smart.
I think the new design/fitting allows more scope for different stems.