Fiberglass found in Angus Enhanced

Octavia

No thoughts, head empty
So is this confirming the the original AE had fibreglass insulation in it? If so that does make the teardown picture a bit alarming
Yup, I believe Yllvape confirmed it was fibreglass shortly after the news broke. Sounds like the earliest versions had a roll of uncovered fibreglass around the centre tube, newer versions added a layer of tape over the fibreglass, but all known versions prior to this recall had some form of fibreglass insulation.
 

dampo

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Not sure what difference tape makes, as you see on my AE , the fiberglass is exposed.


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Texus

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After reading this, I'm not losing any sleep over fiberglass surrounding the airpath of my AE, even if a lil leaks into the airpath.

But if anyone has any actual peer-reviewed science that contradicts these findings (largely from fiberglass plant employees who worked there for decades), I'm all ears.

For now, it seems like charred or well done meat is associated with worse outcomes. And then there is alcohol...
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
After reading this, I'm not losing any sleep over fiberglass surrounding the airpath of my AE, even if a lil leaks into the airpath.

But if anyone has any actual peer-reviewed science that contradicts these findings (largely from fiberglass plant employees who worked there for decades), I'm all ears.

For now, it seems like charred or well done meat is associated with worse outcomes. And then there is alcohol...

The review you posted is from 2007, 4 years later NTP still reasonably considering fiber glass dust as anticipated carcinogenic, so maybe caution still a good advice related to inhaling fiberglass, despite your optimism

from

In June 2011, the US National Toxicology Program (NTP) removed from its Report on Carcinogens all biosoluble glass wool used in home and building insulation and for non-insulation products.[31] However, NTP still considers fibrous glass dust to be "reasonably anticipated [as] a human carcinogen (Certain Glass Wool Fibers (Inhalable))"

also: did a third party verify if it is indeed fiberglass and not something similar yet differently dangerous, like fiberceramic?
 
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kokolokokolokon

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After reading this, I'm not losing any sleep over fiberglass surrounding the airpath of my AE, even if a lil leaks into the airpath.
Yep, same info I shared here in the first pages.

The review you posted is from 2007, 4 years later NTP still reasonably considering fiber glass dust as anticipated carcinogenic
Nope since 2011.


They removed the fiberglass. I don't know what else people expect.
 
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dukes00

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After reading this, I'm not losing any sleep over fiberglass surrounding the airpath of my AE, even if a lil leaks into the airpath.

But if anyone has any actual peer-reviewed science that contradicts these findings (largely from fiberglass plant employees who worked there for decades), I'm all ears.

For now, it seems like charred or well done meat is associated with worse outcomes. And then there is alcohol...
Seems to me that there is a fair bit of space between "it's harmless" and "it doesn't influence MORTALITY in a statistically significant way", but maybe that's just me...

Also, this is a direct quote from the paper:
Rare cases of pulmonary fibrosis, acute eosinophilic pneumonia, and sarcoidosis-like pulmonary disease have been described after exposure to fiber glass. Detailed exposure history is essential to make the diagnosis. Cessation of fiberglass exposure is important in management of these patients.
IMO, this isn't calming at all in AE's context.
 

4-Aces King-High

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Seems to me that there is a fair bit of space between "it's harmless" and "it doesn't influence MORTALITY in a statistically significant way", but maybe that's just me...

Also, this is a direct quote from the paper:

IMO, this isn't calming at all in AE's context.
My A.E. Stopped heating after less than A month of Use——contacted YLL And Retailer-No Response from either.
I initially bought 3)O.G. Angus,and for 420 ,2025 picked up another O.G. For $120 delivered. The O.G.s ,2 of them I changed the boro balls To Ruby balls and experimented other ways for more Air flow.
I have an Aerolite on preorderwhich May never come out with the supposed problem-solving the A.E. We Will See.
 
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kokolokokolokon

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@dukes00 If you want something more detailed, I shared a link on the first pages of this thread where the type of exposure is specified more than in the case shared by the user.

Of course, there is a gap between being harmless and not being deadly, however, given the type of information that has wanted to be promulgated by certain users, considerably aggravating the possible consequences and the magnitude of exposure to the material, it is positive to share the data correctly.

Anyway, the fiberglass has been removed from the device, and the brand is going to replace the devices already sold.
 
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