Fiberglass found in Angus Enhanced

2tiki

Well-Known Member
I found the following info on an official site about the safety of ceramic fiber:
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The fibres themselves can irritate the skin, eyes and upper respiratory tract but the main concern is that the individual fibres are small enough to penetrate deep into the lungs and possibly lead to the development of lung cancer and mesothelioma.
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But even if it was 100% not a possible cancer risk, you really don't want any kind of fibers getting into your lungs. COPD is horrible, and can be caused by virtually anything getting stuck in your lungs, especially with repeated exposure. Also, there is more to why people are upset that what may happen from whatever fiber was used. This is not a single issue problem. That has been explained many times in here already. There are definitely people over reacting, and people underreacting to the situation, as well as people who are just focused on facts without much emotional drive.

I have never owned one, so for my own sake, I'm not nearly as upset as anyone would understandably be if they had been using it. But since I generally care about the well being of others on this planet, I'm empathetically upset for them. I was also assuming that I was going to buy the new Ariolite if people on FC mostly thought it was good enough. Now I have to hold off because people raved about the AE, yet didn't know about this potential issue, and people do have valid cause to not blindly trust the company.

If we assume that the material was 100% safe, and therefore there is no cause for concern, YLL still handled this whole thing terribly. If there was nothing to be concerned about, they could have made some sort of public statement with data and links to 3rd party sources that back up that position. But to the best of my knowledge, that has never happened. I would also think that it would be odd to offer replacements if there was nothing wrong in the first place.
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
POTV has a different bottom posted on their AE listing (still up), and theirs looks more like the China Export logo:



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Kind of curious about this, I recall angus original pictures with china export logo and I stopped following AE after seeing the render above still with china export logo

So, about CE logo, asking to AE owners: how does it look like the bottom of your device, upper or down picture?

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Andreaerdna,

Texus

Well-Known Member
And yet you feel the need to speculate and directly contradict what YLL themselves have said. I see you are choosing to believe a "forum rando" about the material based on their claims about Mandarin? Why not go to the source. You have a clear connection to YLL vape and used to speak to "Mike" often. Use that to find out instead of spreading other speculation here, as a forum rando.
I have no connection to Mike or YLL. He asked to use a photo I posted here on the YLL Instagram in March 2023 and I passed along accessory ideas in Nov 2022 (after owning OG for month or so). That is the extent of our communication. Ever. My original purchase was not even thru YLL, I grabbed it from Vgoodiez (all detailed here).

Please don't hurl accusations about something you know nothing about. But I think you were the source of this "fake CE" idea here as well, so that may be a lot to ask.

Not sure where you are getting this idea that I used to "speak to 'Mike' often." So either show me your evidence or stop speaking about matters you know nothing about. Or do staff members get permission to make up things about other forum users? Not a good look.

Don't want to stir the pot, but also not going to let blatantly wrong claims about me get a pass, especially considering the innuendo involved here.
 

Grass Yes

Yes
Staff member
Don't want to stir the pot, but also not going to let blatantly wrong claims about me get a pass, especially considering the innuendo involved here.
I am glad you cleared that up. I think I must have confused you with someone else. Although I am confused why anyone would go to the lengths you have gone to defending Mike and YLL for free.
 
Grass Yes,

justcametomind

Well-Known Member
I found the following info on an official site about the safety of ceramic fiber:
---
The fibres themselves can irritate the skin, eyes and upper respiratory tract but the main concern is that the individual fibres are small enough to penetrate deep into the lungs and possibly lead to the development of lung cancer and mesothelioma.
---

But even if it was 100% not a possible cancer risk, you really don't want any kind of fibers getting into your lungs. COPD is horrible, and can be caused by virtually anything getting stuck in your lungs, especially with repeated exposure. Also, there is more to why people are upset that what may happen from whatever fiber was used. This is not a single issue problem. That has been explained many times in here already. There are definitely people over reacting, and people underreacting to the situation, as well as people who are just focused on facts without much emotional drive.

I have never owned one, so for my own sake, I'm not nearly as upset as anyone would understandably be if they had been using it. But since I generally care about the well being of others on this planet, I'm empathetically upset for them. I was also assuming that I was going to buy the new Ariolite if people on FC mostly thought it was good enough. Now I have to hold off because people raved about the AE, yet didn't know about this potential issue, and people do have valid cause to not blindly trust the company.

If we assume that the material was 100% safe, and therefore there is no cause for concern, YLL still handled this whole thing terribly. If there was nothing to be concerned about, they could have made some sort of public statement with data and links to 3rd party sources that back up that position. But to the best of my knowledge, that has never happened. I would also think that it would be odd to offer replacements if there was nothing wrong in the first place.
If what you say is right, and I think it is, people should sue YLL vapes for having put at risk the respiratory tract of its buyers.
This also made me think I’m right sticking to Storz and Bickel and try to avoid Vas for artisanal vapes or at least unknown brands for the future. And I don’t think S&B is “safe”. They are just “less likely” to be exposed to such a mess being the biggest company and the one who spends more in research, supposedly. In fact I took notice when their take on “on demand” vaporizers was the Venty, which means that probably quicker on demand portables, made using glowing heaters that heat up in one second are not safe, that alongen portables where never a thing because hard to dissipate heat from, otherwise SB or Arizer would have come up with something similar to the AE
We should scrutinize every single thing in vaporizers that is thought to be true, for example the fact that glass vapor paths are inherently “safe” by definition.
Or the fact that since you are not smoking, you can vaporize all day long with no damage taken.
Imho if your cannabis intake makes you vaporize all day long you should switch to edibles for the most part, if you want to play safe.
 
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