The Angus Halogen Vape by YLL Vape

[BingsBuddery]

This is good information. It sounds like you are also saying the bulb is not soldered into the socket? I would love to get any more specific detail that you have on this.

YLL is a hard nut to crack on this. I have been told that the bulb is not soldered, but some (isolated) delicate wiring for the thermosensor is, and that is why he doesnt want people yanking it apart, because its a tricky assembly (implicitly). I'm not really willing to pull mine apart to investigate, however.

 

[Grass Yes]

YLL is a hard nut to crack on this. I have been told that the bulb is not soldered, but some (isolated) delicate wiring for the thermosensor is, and that is why he doesnt want people yanking it apart, because its a tricky assembly (implicitly). I'm not really willing to pull mine apart to investigate, however.

So they said that the thermosensor is away from the airpath but near enough to the bulb to cause issues? I can sort of imagine that but I find it confusing. I wish they would just answer directly, ideally with pictures.

 

[BingsBuddery]

So they said that the thermosensor is away from the airpath but neat enough to the bulb to cause issues? I can sort of imagine that but I find it confusing. I wish they would just answer directly, ideally with pictures.

I cant exactly ascertain. It sounds to me like the thermosensor might need to be desoldered to even access the bulb underneath. But as you say, without clear photos or somebody with big ass balls ripping theirs apart, its pretty hard to know what exactly is happening under there.

 

[RedZep]

Yes, these were the big picture thoughts I had when in mind when writing my last post.

I'm not trying to pick an argument, as I think what you say is valid. But I also think there is another side. I think intention matters. No one here is being insidious, with aims of damaging the products reputation. They are simply poking holes in things to get a picture of the product.

When someone shouts out a perceived negative variable, they want someone to reply with "actually the designer confirmed this fear is unfounded because...." It actually just happened again after your comment, with someone mentioning the airpath.

I've ordered the product, and it's only because I had pages of people being negative and poking holes in potential problems or design features, that I was able to have a mental map of what I'm getting into. We are the early adopters. There is risk involved but we are not fools. We all need some reassurance before we take the leap.

Once the initially negative early adopters have their units, and we have a larger body of reviews, and longer term analysis, then there will be no need for this process.

I believe our intentions are good. We want to be customers. I also think the process is good, for the designer/seller and for the customer.

 

[Zuhdj]

This is good information. It sounds like you are also saying the bulb is not soldered into the socket? I would love to get any more specific detail that you have on this.

with the highlighter it clipped in with metal spring contact things rather than a solder. i assume it's the same.

 

[Zuhdj]

YLL is a hard nut to crack on this. I have been told that the bulb is not soldered, but some (isolated) delicate wiring for the thermosensor is, and that is why he doesnt want people yanking it apart, because its a tricky assembly (implicitly). I'm not really willing to pull mine apart to investigate, however.

@VGOODIEZ would be doing US bulb replacements if i'm not mistaken. are you able to give any insight on this subject Scott?

 

[VGOODIEZ]

@VGOODIEZ would be doing US bulb replacements if i'm not mistaken. are you able to give any insight on this subject Scott?

Not currently. I have not received parts or training for the bulb replacement but it's in the plans.

 

[vapeape77]

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

So they said that the thermosensor is away from the airpath but neat enough to the bulb to cause issues? I can sort of imagine that but I find it confusing. I wish they would just answer directly, ideally with pictures.

Have you asked them on ig or dm here?

E: ah I see you tagged them earlier with some questions already

 

[Texus]

But you need to own that your post below is just fanning the flames based on comments about a totally different vape.

Is this because the air intake gets clogged up with dust? Is there no way to remedy this?

Seems like a massive flaw if airflow goes to shit in one year. Makes the arguments about bulb lifespan moot.

It's all the hyperbole and hysteria as much as anything else.

Did you not see the counterfeit CE mark on the vape?

Just like the claim it is a "fake CE" because of how YLL handled labelling it on the device. "Oh no, it isn't raised plastic! The horror! The horror!" Just grabbed a certified FDA-approved medical device. CE etc on it? Yeah, a sticker. My Nintendo Switch? Just printed on the device.

 

[vapeape77]

I pray the Lord my Soul to keep
If I should die before I wake
I pray the Lord my my bulb don’t break…

 

[bearpants]

I just ordered one (I also have an arizer air max on the way). Hope I did good

 

[Grass Yes]

Just like the claim it is a "fake CE" because of how YLL handled labelling it on the device. "Oh no, it isn't raised plastic! The horror! The horror!" Just grabbed a certified FDA-approved medical device. CE etc on it? Yeah, a sticker. My Nintendo Switch? Just printed on the device.

I would encourage you to take a look at how the CE mark is used and how to spot a real certification:

CE marking – obtaining the certificate, EU requirements - Your Europe

European rules for obtaining CE marking on products sold to EU Member States or in the EEA - conditions and product requirements for the conformity marking

europa.eu

The mark printed on there does not match the EU guidelines for the mark. It is not how it is affixed. It does not have the mark with the correct distance and proportions. These are literally the ways to distinguish a real CE certified device.

I don't understand why you would cape for this so hard? These are real shortcomings that should be addressed not just ignored. You can enjoy a vape and still think that certification and compliance to safety standards matters.

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

I just ordered one (I also have an arizer air max on the way). Hope I did good

It's a great session vape and the heat retention will be better on Angus because of the glass beads. Great for a low temp slow extraction session but also awesome to clear a bowl in a few hits at 5 rocking beast mode

 

[bearpants]

It's a great session vape and the heat retention will be better on Angus because of the glass beads. Great for a low temp slow extraction session but also awesome to clear a bowl in a few hits at 5 rocking beast mode

Excellent to hear! Cannot wait. Thanks!

looking to retire my sticky brick and vapcap.

 

[BingsBuddery]

I would encourage you to take a look at how the CE mark is used and how to spot a real certification:

CE marking – obtaining the certificate, EU requirements - Your Europe

European rules for obtaining CE marking on products sold to EU Member States or in the EEA - conditions and product requirements for the conformity marking

europa.eu

The mark printed on there does not match the EU guidelines for the mark. It is not how it is affixed. It does not have the mark with the correct distance and proportions. These are literally the ways to distinguish a real CE certified device.

I don't understand why you would cape for this so hard? These are real shortcomings that should be addressed not just ignored. You can enjoy a vape and still think that certification and compliance to safety standards matters.

Playing devil's advocate here, there is no statement as to the spacing requirements of the logo, the website states:

"The CE marking must consist of the initials "CE", both letters should have the same vertical dimension and be no smaller than 5mm (unless specified differently in the relevant product requirements).


If you wish to reduce or enlarge the CE marking on your product, you should respect the proportions of the two letters. As long as the initials remain visible, the CE marking can take different forms (for example colour, solid or hollow)."

So, to me, it sounds like reducing the distance is fine as long as the proportions of the letters (not their spacing) are maintained. They also allow for other forms with respect to colour and solid/hollow, and if they are that loose with those attributes, I don't think they are asking people to maintain specific grid spacing. Not a lawyer, however.

 

[Grass Yes]

Playing devil's advocate here, there is no statement as to the spacing requirements of the logo,

You gotta name the devil you are advocating for. Is YLLVAPE the devil? People misusing the CE mark? Which devil are you working for?

Anyway the proportion requirements are laid out in the directives and your quote includes this detail.

If you wish to reduce or enlarge the CE marking on your product, you should respect the proportions of the two letters

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

Playing devil's advocate here, there is no statement as to the spacing requirements of the logo, the website states:

"The CE marking must consist of the initials "CE", both letters should have the same vertical dimension and be no smaller than 5mm (unless specified differently in the relevant product requirements).


If you wish to reduce or enlarge the CE marking on your product, you should respect the proportions of the two letters. As long as the initials remain visible, the CE marking can take different forms (for example colour, solid or hollow)."

So, to me, it sounds like reducing the distance is fine as long as the vertical proportions are maintained. They also allow for other forms with respect to colour and solid/hollow, and if they are that loose with those attributes, I don't think they are asking people to maintain specific grid spacing. Not a lawyer, however.

But it's a marking, which is something different than the letters CE. The marking is described here: https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/single-market/ce-marking_en. The text you're quoting is referring to the marking in the link, not the letter combo CE.

 

[BingsBuddery]

You gotta name the devil you are advocating for. Is YLLVAPE the devil? People misusing the CE mark? Which devil are you working for?

Anyway the proportion requirements are laid out in the directives and your quote includes this detail.

Whatever devil applies.. Again, letter proportions are not the same as spacing between them. Find some literature that precisely states that the distance between letters needs to be maintained.

 

[jasp3r]

I ordered mine, excited to try it out to test the hype being produced by some on this thread but can't get over this whole CE thing that would be cleared up with one simple action/conversation with the maker. I went ahead and dmed on instagram will let you guys know what I hear!

I agree that not having certification isnt dealbreaking but the mere fact of misrepresenting a product as having a specific certification is definitely suspect and potential dealbreaking to me.

Also for the solder issue, why is solder bad? Obviously lead solder is bad but is all solder typically a no no? I just can't imagine this product not having any solder?

 

[Texus]

This CE logo mess = Officially the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen on FC. And that's saying something.

@jasp3r the maker already provided additional evidence of the certification. Something I've never seen a single other manufacturer interrogated about here.

 

[Grass Yes]

Also for the solder issue, why is solder bad? Obviously lead solder is bad but is all solder typically a no no? I just can't imagine this product not having any solder?

I think solder in the vapor path is bad, because it can melt when heated. I would be worried about inhaling vaporized solder. Even it isn't lead, I don't want that in my lungs.

Outside the vapor path is probably fine. (Edited for clarity and typos)

 

[BingsBuddery]

But it's a marking, which is something different than the letters CE. The marking is described here: https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/single-market/ce-marking_en. The text you're quoting is referring to the marking in the link, not the letter combo CE.

Lol, what? I'm literally citing the site's description of how to affix the "marking".

 

[Grass Yes]

Whatever devil applies.. Again, letter proportions are not the same as spacing between them. Find some literature that precisely states that the distance between letters needs to be maintained.

I am not sure why Google isn't working for you today, but it is very clear that proportns refers to the spacing between them in the EU and UK directives.

This CE logo mess = Officially the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen on FC. And that's saying something.

@jasp3r the maker already provided additional evidence of the certification. Something I've never seen a single other manufacturer interrogated about here.

Absolutely agree that this should be solved easily. And I agree that this discussion is dumb!

Although you did see that it said that they can not use the CE mark and they used a different, similar mark in it's place. I just asked about that one weird thing.

 

[vapeape77]

Lol god you guys… now I’m worried about solder too, maybe I’ll just use it once a day at first