Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

shredder

shredder

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Chicken No Name said:
@Blargas541

To get into hash rosin (live for the win) it really is preferably to grow. It's best to be in a position where you can be comfortable with washing several hundred grams of product for not very many grams of fire.
I had my non growing mate over last time I did a run and he was stunned at the amount of flower needed for not a lot of return.
I think it's worth it but I have more than I can consume at the moment.....
Good luck
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I press dry sift hash and I suspect low returns from buds to rosin as well, but since the hash was tumbled from pre dried frozen buds no real need to post dry. The rosin comes out pretty dry.

One surprise was tumbling some old brown buds. They were found in a miss placed jar. The hash was brownish, and the rosin almost black. But I'm told the rosin was the smoothest people had ever tried.
 
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WelshBrok

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Actually in the process of tumbling some dry sift to press now (couple of green bits in there as made the mistake of emptying bottom of grinder kief into dry sift jar)
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not really pressed fresh dry sift before (only more traditional filtered hash). What sort of temp range should I be trying?
 
shredder

shredder

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WelshBrok said:
Actually in the process of tumbling some dry sift to press now (couple of green bits in there as made the mistake of emptying bottom of grinder kief into dry sift jar)
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not really pressed fresh dry sift before (only more traditional filtered hash). What sort of temp range should I be trying?
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I like 180-185F to press dry sift.
 
AGBeer

AGBeer

Lost in Thought
And here comes the learning curve :)

DP 6t showed up today, and its HEAVY AF! Got it unboxed and assembled and its up on my bench now.
Fired it up and haphazardly tried my first squish (of poor candidate flower) at too low of a temp and too high of a pressure.

The flower was some over cured/dried white widow and of course my yield was shit. Tried re-pressing at a higher temp and higher pressure.
Parchment paper was torn and return was shit. (Into the puck bin)

Next press was a couple of grams of GG#4 and it came out nominally better.
I have the brick maker and some tools on the way so I plan to watch a couple of vids and give it more a serious whack again tonight. So far pretty okay though! Im stoked to finally have access to concentrates!
 
florduh

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Jesus Murphy, seeing people make their own hash rosin has got me jealous as fuck. Growing is illegal in Floriduh. And I live in a 3 bedroom townhouse. Oh well. As soon as it's legal, I'm thinking that guest bedroom is gonna be a grow room. My lady friend's parents will need to find somewhere else to stay I guess. Hash rosin sells for $80+ a gram here. Two birds, one stone.
 
Chicken No Name

Chicken No Name

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Trim mix bubble 90 bag pressed through 25

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Chicken No Name

Chicken No Name

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@high247
Thanks

Bags: no where in particular. Cheap ones I guess. Have used several brands and seems much of a muchness. I haven't used a brand I can say to avoid.
But other more experienced folk may have recommendations.
 
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high247

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davesmith said:
I'd be interested to hear this. What material are the modern bags made of? Last time I pressed in a bag it was metal and was awful.
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Most of mainstream rosin bags like; Dabpress, Pressclub , Nugsmasher and Ohdaze use Nylon which seem to do good job. However the yield will depend on the stitching quality, so just wondered which brand was used in the above extraction.
 
Chicken No Name

Chicken No Name

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high247 said:
Most of mainstream rosin bags like; Dabpress, Pressclub , Nugsmasher and Ohdaze use Nylon which seem to do good job. However the yield will depend on the stitching quality, so just wondered which brand was used in the above extraction.
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The bags used in this press were:
90 provided by highsqueeze
25 by qnubu

I double bag 25 inside 90.

I also use some dulytek 100


Blow outs only due to user error. Hope this is more helpful.
 
BabyFacedFinster

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Recently, I gained access to grams of live rosin that look pretty sweet. There is a heirarchy where I can pick up the live rosin, live hash rosin or get the full spectrum hash rosin, with each level jumping about 20 bucks more. If they use the process of ice extraction followed by drying and pressing, I would have thought all hash rosin would be full spectrum. But I guess there always needs to be upgrades, right? Maybe someone can school me on this.
The latter gets pretty damn expensive.
 
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invertedisdead

invertedisdead

PHASE3
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BabyFacedFinster said:
Recently, I gained access to grams of live rosin that look pretty sweet. There is a heirarchy where I can pick up the live rosin, live hash rosin or get the full spectrum hash rosin, with each level jumping about 20 bucks more. If they use the process of ice extraction followed by drying and pressing, I would have thought all hash rosin would be full spectrum. But I guess there always needs to be upgrades, right? Maybe someone can school me on this.
The latter gets pretty damn expensive.
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Full spectrum is referring to the wider spectrum of filter bags used in the bubble hash process. This leaves a bit more residue than the cleaner rosin made from the most melty resin heads and is a bit more affordable.
 
Chicken No Name

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
@invertedisdead
More education please.
@BabyFacedFinster mentioned live rosin and live hash rosin.
What is the difference. All my live rosin is made so:
Fresh frozen herb. Washed with ice through bags creating bubble hash.
This hash is then dried and pressed.
voila, live rosin.
so what is live hash rosin. Is it made using kief from a tumbler....
Thanks
 
invertedisdead

invertedisdead

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Chicken No Name said:
@invertedisdead
More education please.
@BabyFacedFinster mentioned live rosin and live hash rosin.
What is the difference. All my live rosin is made so:
Fresh frozen herb. Washed with ice through bags creating bubble hash.
This hash is then dried and pressed.
voila, live rosin.
so what is live hash rosin. Is it made using kief from a tumbler....
Thanks
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It’s hard to really say what the exact differences are without seeing them all side by side, but based on our market here, I would guess the price differences come from either starting with better hash, or adding in some post processing labor/time.

For live rosin I would think they were all starting from fresh frozen material then washed and freeze dried for a “SOP.”

Cold tumbling is possible, but probably unlikely for a company offering multiple grades of rosin. The main appeal of water hash is the control offered by the range of filter bags, and you lose out on that when tumbling. Tumbling is more commonly done on non “live” rosin, where the jar may just say “hash rosin.” This is commonly done (commercially) with trim, whereas live rosin is almost always whole plant fresh frozen.

Tumbling trim is usually done by a weed company looking to offer a secondary product, whereas live rosin is generally a primary product with the whole operation devoted to that.

Often times post processed rosin will hold a premium over the “fresh press” consistency. This is usually the “cold cure” or the “diamond sauce” variations. Whether it’s actually better is subjective/debated, but there is more work involved which raises the ticket a bit.

Here in California rosin pricing would be the cheapest starting with the “full spectrum” followed by the ~100u premium press, followed by the cold cure post-processed premium press. Some companies also do a “second press / re-press” as a more affordable option as well.
 
BabyFacedFinster

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I did notice some vendors mentioning the cold cure and was wondering that too. Thanks!

The other product I'm looking at is the full melt, which appears to be a sandy collection of very clean trich heads that are laden in their own resin. I think they state it's a flash freeze, then an ice extraction followed by a micron bagging of the very first run.
Looks VERY :drool:
I wonder how difficult it is to clean that out of a banger or bucket coil?

I'm gonna pick up a gram or two of the mid level hash rosin and give that a go too. I have a dabpress, but with all the options I haven't had a need to use it. I've also only pressed cured flower and always the same boring dark brown sap rosin. Now if I inquired about some dry sift, I could buy some hash micron bags and really fuck it up for twice the price. :lol:

 
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LesPlenty

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BabyFacedFinster said:
I've also only pressed cured flower and always the same boring dark brown sap rosin
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Really old (over 12 months cured) or too hot chasing yield will do that, try dropping the temps to 65c(150f) to 70c(160f) for some light coloured rosin.
What temp should I press bubble hash at as I think my stuff is about as dry as it will get?
I thought around 65c in a 25u, 37u or 45u bag?
 
Chicken No Name

Chicken No Name

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LesPlenty said:
Really old (over 12 months cured) or too hot chasing yield will do that, try dropping the temps to 65c(150f) to 70c(160f) for some light coloured rosin.
What temp should I press bubble hash at as I think my stuff is about as dry as it will get?
I thought around 65c in a 25u, 37u or 45u bag?
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Real low temps. More experimenting for me to try these temps. how long at those temps @LesPlenty ?
For flower I go 90c for 2 m.
Just pressed some BH. I use 80c for 1 m. I then repress the bags at 90 for 2 mins. That comes out darker but is still tasty. 25 bag

Next time will try lower.....
 
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