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DRAG-0n

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I need some help, I cannot get my b1 to milk up. I have tried a mega globe and a china fab egg. Both 14mm. I use 2 (old head) scoops of fine grind. I have it filled with 3mm rubies set at 695.
I get vapor but it’s not thick and milky. I have tried a slow long draw and hard fast draws, same result.
Am I doing something wrong?
Would the injector and a glass or wood bowl help?
Are you using it completely new and stock coil from New Vape?, sounds odd
 
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Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Is it possible that you're not getting a good seal on the connection to the glass piece you're using it with, which is causing too much outside air to leak in?

If not, then maybe get a laser thermometer gun ($20 on Amazon), and check the coil to see if it's actually reaching temp.
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Also, the idea that nothing changes with a really slow or really fast draw speed. That doesn't make any sense to me. If all other things are correct, then there is no way that a drastic change in draw speed wouldn't change the vapor that you are getting. That's why my brain leans toward an air leak, or something like that.

It seems to me that even if the PID wasn't holding the temp as high as it's set at then there would still be a change in vapor density between a slow and fast draw. That makes me think that the draw of air that actually passes through the bowl is staying about the same, which would only happen if there was an air leak that was causing the change in lung-pull speed to not change the speed of air that actually goes through the bowl nearly as much.

I recognize that I'm no expert, and I could be completely wrong. But that is what it sounds like to me.
 

DHV8654

Well-Known Member
Also, the idea that nothing changes with a really slow or really fast draw speed. That doesn't make any sense to me. If all other things are correct, then there is no way that a drastic change in draw speed wouldn't change the vapor that you are getting. That's why my brain leans toward an air leak, or something like that.

It seems to me that even if the PID wasn't holding the temp as high as it's set at then there would still be a change in vapor density between a slow and fast draw. That makes me think that the draw of air that actually passes through the bowl is staying about the same, which would only happen if there was an air leak that was causing the change in lung-pull speed to not change the speed of air that actually goes through the bowl nearly as much.

I recognize that I'm no expert, and I could be completely wrong. But that is what it sounds like to me.
I agree I need to check the seal on the shovelhead
 

The Stray Fox

Separated from the group
The concave Ti screen works on the B-1 nut too. I kept the double weave in as well which added a tiny bit of resistance.
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graydeh1

REP for TRVP ATTY, Shellshock/Tectonic and more.
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I guess its time to get some balls, the Vrod is too airy without the cap on. I don't
dab, so its only reasonable that I nut up and B1. Vgoodiez here I come.
I'm pretty sure you'll be happy I've had a V-Rod forever and I don't dab anymore either, got a b1 recently and absolutely love it. It gives me great, thick not too hot cloudy vapor without having to use a carb cap that's a major plus for me.
 

Yung Coconut

Well-Known Member
?
He said:
the Vrod is too airy without the cap on

Which I agree with.

Why avoid the b1 which provides resistance without the cap?
I'm confused by your statement.

B1 has almost no resistance though. Airflow is wide open. If a Vrod without the carb cap has too much airflow then I don't think the B1 is for him.

Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what he means by "airy."
 

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
B1 has almost no resistance though. Airflow is wide open. If a Vrod without the carb cap has too much airflow then I don't think the B1 is for him.

Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what he means by "airy."
Imo
The b1 has more resistance than the vrod with no cap. One of the key reasons I got the b1. Improvement on the resistance without a cap and lower temperatures. Went from 625 to 585.


For airy free flow try the vapbong. Now that is airy (bit lovely).
 
Chicken No Name,

Yung Coconut

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Imo
The b1 has more resistance than the vrod with no cap. One of the key reasons I got the b1. Improvement on the resistance without a cap and lower temperatures. Went from 625 to 585.


For airy free flow try the vapbong. Now that is airy (bit lovely).

I guess we'll have to disagree then. B2 has much more resistance, especially if you use 3mm pearls. B1 airflow is wide open in comparison regardless.

Based on what he said I would go B2, but that's just me.
 

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
I guess we'll have to disagree then. B2 has much more resistance. B1 airflow is wide open in comparison.
I've had both and I disagree.

So your saying the B2 and or vrod with no cap has more resistance than a non capped b1?

The b1 has more resistance than an uncapped B2 or vrod In my experience. Else what's the point?
 
Chicken No Name,

Yung Coconut

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I've had both and I disagree.

So your saying the B2 and or vrod with no cap has more resistance than a non capped b1?

The b1 has more resistance than an uncapped B2 or vrod In my experience. Else what's the point?

That's exactly what I'm saying and I own both. Have the Vrod still also.

You can't seriously look at the B1 Nut and tell me it has more airflow resistance than the B2/Vrod top. It's nothing but a screen. Combine that with the wide open screen diffuser and the airflow is wide wide wide open on the B1.

What's the point? I dunno... Am I taking crazy pills?
 

RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
FWIW: The B1 filled with 3mm balls, is a lot more restrictive then the OG WeedEater, with just its open drilled holes. That was the consensus early on, and I was happy it was true, as my OG WE, saw little use, airflow was like a fire hose, B1 is now in rotation.

Don’t own B2 or VRod, so carry on..... my 2 cents...
 

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
That's exactly what I'm saying and I own both. Have the Vrod still also.

You can't seriously look at the B1 Nut and tell me it has more airflow resistance than the B2/Vrod top. It's nothing but a screen. Combine that with the wide open screen diffuser and the airflow is wide wide wide open on the B1.

What's the point? I dunno... Am I taking crazy pills?
I'm not looking at the b1 screen and saying it has more resistance than the B2/vrod.

I'm saying a b1 stuffed with 3mm rubies has more resistance than a non capped B2 or vrod.

Having gone from a capped vrod to B2 capped to b1 non capped I'm happy with my progression and would advise anyone considering to do the same.
 

Yung Coconut

Well-Known Member
I'm not looking at the b1 screen and saying it has more resistance than the B2/vrod.

I'm saying a b1 stuffed with 3mm rubies has more resistance than a non capped B2 or vrod.

Having gone from a capped vrod to B2 capped to b1 non capped I'm happy with my progression and would advise anyone considering to do the same.
So you're saying a B1 with 3mm rubies has more airflow resistance than an uncapped B2 with the same 3mm rubies?

Cause that's crazy.
 
Yung Coconut,

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
So you're saying a B1 with 3mm rubies has more airflow resistance than an uncapped B2 with the same 3mm rubies?

Cause that's crazy
If the Vrod is too "airy" I'd stay the hell away from the B1 lol
It is your original statement that he should stay away from the b1 that I was challenging. The b1 is designed to use the 3 mm ballls. Vrod is not. B2 is.
Anyway I've made my point as have you. We can all have differing opinions even when 'crazy' or not but thanks for your critique in my mental health
:D
 
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Chicken No Name,

Yung Coconut

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It is your original statement that he should stay away from the vrod that I was challenging. The b1 is designed to use the 3 mm ballls. Vrod is not. B2 is.
Anyway I've made my point as have you. We can all have differing opinions even when 'crazy' or not but thanks for your critique in my mental health
:D
I never said he should stay away from the Vrod. But he probably should since he thought it was too airy, it's discontinued and the ballers are a big upgrade anyway.

And this isn't an opinion based thing. It's kind of factual that the B2 has more airflow restriction than the B1.
 
Yung Coconut,

Chicken No Name

Dazed and confused
I never said he should stay away from the Vrod. But he probably should since he thought it was too airy, it's discontinued and the ballers are a big upgrade anyway.

And this isn't an opinion based thing. It's kind of factual that the B2 has more airflow restriction than the B1.
You said stay away from the b1, my apologies.
Anyway I'm out.
Once someone starts quoting 'facts' and questions my sanity I know it's over for me.
Have a good one.
 
Chicken No Name,

Yung Coconut

Well-Known Member
You said stay away from the b1, my apologies.
Anyway I'm out.
Once someone starts quoting 'facts' and questions my sanity I know it's over for me.
Have a good one.

I never questioned your sanity lol I'm just saying you're wrong if you think the B1 has more airflow restriction than a B2. Facts are facts.

But yes, I'm fine ending this conversation.
 
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