Verdamper vaporizer

[Alexis]

Is the safety valve of any help?
I'm VASing over a complete Verdamper set, but I don't understand if it's better to get the safety valve version or not.
Do you get "vacuum" when inhaling from the Verdamper? So that lifting the safety valve acts as clearing the carb hole on an old acrylic bong?
This is unlikely since it seems to me the top of the heating element glass part is hollow on the top, but if the safety valve would help in order not to lift the heating element it could be a wiser choice. But in the end, perhaps it's still better to lift the heating element and place it on its spot on the wooden "transformator" holder?

Honestly, it's no necessity. My model 540 something, by then, there was no safety valve.

Im sure what happened at some point, probably in a Dutch coffee shop, some dopey tourist plumbs, you know the sort, in the overwhelming confusion of the moment, get it backwards and with the consciousness of an ameba, blow into the inhalation tube when they are supposed to suck- sending water up through the herb chamber into the heater.

The safety valve was added primarily for this reason. Picture Evert on guard, better protected against these dumbass vape know nothings who can't exercise the witt to simply inhale in a controlled manner, his fingers on the safety valve like a highnoon shootout, ready to pull that glass stopper out the first sign of a blowing muppet.

That's what it's for. I used mine 6 years, no valve, no issues there, just I made sure everybody who used it had the awareness about them to simply suck and don't blow.

But as @Noah0608 points out, the safety valve can effectively be a carb hole to clear your hit, rather than lifting the heater (which itself is very easy at any point), or leaving the tube full of vapor for hit after hit.

This is not a paramount feature though. The Verdamper was never designed to be cleared after every hit. I never used to do that. There's no blowback issues, it just gets full of dense milk, hit after hit, without needing to lift the heater or clear the chamber of vapor until you've had enough or stir.

So the valve is less necessary, as a carb hole, than usual, but would offer a non heater lifting way of clearing the vapor.

So it's up to you. Indeed theres no vacuum as such, with such a wide open heater, and you really don't even want to clear the chamber after every one or two hits, IMO, because that isn't what the Verdamper is about. It's like getting up to 60, dropping back to zero every time.

The Verdamper is designed to stay at 60, rev after rev, until you want to ease off the pace.

I would probably go for the safety valve myself if I was shopping now. Just for the perk and added flexibility.

 

[kadjo]

Been reading this thread lot and finally about to pull the trigger, has anyone whose used the large classic (which I'm looking at) and the smaller versions report if there is qny difference in the signature "high" provided? Are heaters interchangeable could I buy one heater and a large classic and smaller jar and use the same heater?

 

[Alexis]

Been reading this thread lot and finally about to pull the trigger, has anyone whose used the large classic (which I'm looking at) and the smaller versions report if there is qny difference in the signature "high" provided? Are heaters interchangeable could I buy one heater and a large classic and smaller jar and use the same heater?

That's a good question, because while we have discussed or rather theorised/mused over potential differences in performance, signature as you say, between the deluxe and smaller version, I don't personally recall having ever heard report from anybody who has owned or used both deluxe and smaller bong, and made a subjective comparison between them signature and effect wise.

I doubt very much you will find anybody here, or for a few good miles (forums) who will be in such a position to answer that for you.

Relatively few Verdampers inhabit the wilderness, most owners will not be owning both models in their lifetime.

I imagine anybody who buys a deluxe and needs to replace the main body at any point (I did one time, by carelessly lifting the downtube up- it can stick a bit, so the friction loosened my grip on the downtube, it slid back into the joint at an angle, cracked the glass joint- about €100 replacement), would most likely but another deluxe model, rather than say, oh well, I'll just getbthe small jar then....

After I discovered the only REAL weak point of the glass, the actual joint the downpipe slots into, I put selotspe around the downtube where it connects with the glass joint, to stop it from ever sticking, easier to pull out, and add some slight cushioning- out of the airpath as well, importantly.

I recommend this to any Verdamper owners. I never had another slip or catch after that.

So we can only try and exercise logic as empirically as we can.

What I do know, is that IMO @rodders83 knows his vapes very well, and doesn't talk just to make leaves blow up off the ground lol.

I was quite surprised admittedly when he revealed he had chosen the smaller model, not the Deluxe, after hearing how delighted he was to have discovered the Verdamper and finally being in vape heaven.

It meets all his requirements. It didn't sound as though the signature effects were altered much at all byt using the smaller model.

And I acknowledged that it would take less inhalation horsepower to get the vapor flowing and clear eventually.

On the other side, the Deluxe will surely, by reason, cool the hits slightly more. Also the surface area will surely be slightly greater with the deluxe.

It would be consciously imperceptible, but bybtge logic of gteater surface area equalling greater effects, absorption, if we could measure it in a lab somehow, the Deluxe should, on paper, IMO, have a slightly more potent effect, per milligraj of cannabinoids.

You can't go wrong with either basically. I would still always stick to my routes and encourage the Deluxe model, but that's just me.

Whatever feels right to you. The Deluxe will also be a tad more stable. I think I felt that I may feel a little uneasy about towering the heater on top of the narrower, less rooted base of the smaller bong.


And yes, heaters interchangeable. Everything is identical except the actual main body size. Same downpipe, bowl, inhalation tube. So you could use either body with the rest of the stock configuration.

 

[The Chemist]

Is the safety valve of any help?
I'm VASing over a complete Verdamper set, but I don't understand if it's better to get the safety valve version or not.
Do you get "vacuum" when inhaling from the Verdamper? So that lifting the safety valve acts as clearing the carb hole on an old acrylic bong?
This is unlikely since it seems to me the top of the heating element glass part is hollow on the top, but if the safety valve would help in order not to lift the heating element it could be a wiser choice. But in the end, perhaps it's still better to lift the heating element and place it on its spot on the wooden "transformator" holder?

I never had a situation that would need the safety valve, you would have to blow hard into the pipe to push the water up since the downstem is very long, also there's a lot of water so it's heavier to push.
The valve that came with my pipe wasn't working properly, the ball would get stuck and not move at all even if I would blow in the pipe until I turned blue, thankfully I had bought a back up valve and this one is working like it should.

 

[kadjo]

That's a good question, because while we have discussed or rather theorised/mused over potential differences in performance, signature as you say, between the deluxe and smaller version, I don't personally recall having ever heard report from anybody who has owned or used both deluxe and smaller bong, and made a subjective comparison between them signature and effect wise.

I doubt very much you will find anybody here, or for a few good miles (forums) who will be in such a position to answer that for you.

Relatively few Verdampers inhabit the wilderness, most owners will not be owning both models in their lifetime.

I imagine anybody who buys a deluxe and needs to replace the main body at any point (I did one time, by carelessly lifting the downtube up- it can stick a bit, so the friction loosened my grip on the downtube, it slid back into the joint at an angle, cracked the glass joint- about €100 replacement), would most likely but another deluxe model, rather than say, oh well, I'll just getbthe small jar then....

After I discovered the only REAL weak point of the glass, the actual joint the downpipe slots into, I put selotspe around the downtube where it connects with the glass joint, to stop it from ever sticking, easier to pull out, and add some slight cushioning- out of the airpath as well, importantly.

I recommend this to any Verdamper owners. I never had another slip or catch after that.

So we can only try and exercise logic as empirically as we can.

What I do know, is that IMO @rodders83 knows his vapes very well, and doesn't talk just to make leaves blow up off the ground lol.

I was quite surprised admittedly when he revealed he had chosen the smaller model, not the Deluxe, after hearing how delighted he was to have discovered the Verdamper and finally being in vape heaven.

It meets all his requirements. It didn't sound as though the signature effects were altered much at all byt using the smaller model.

And I acknowledged that it would take less inhalation horsepower to get the vapor flowing and clear eventually.

On the other side, the Deluxe will surely, by reason, cool the hits slightly more. Also the surface area will surely be slightly greater with the deluxe.

It would be consciously imperceptible, but bybtge logic of gteater surface area equalling greater effects, absorption, if we could measure it in a lab somehow, the Deluxe should, on paper, IMO, have a slightly more potent effect, per milligraj of cannabinoids.

You can't go wrong with either basically. I would still always stick to my routes and encourage the Deluxe model, but that's just me.

Whatever feels right to you. The Deluxe will also be a tad more stable. I think I felt that I may feel a little uneasy about towering the heater on top of the narrower, less rooted base of the smaller bong.


And yes, heaters interchangeable. Everything is identical except the actual main body size. Same downpipe, bowl, inhalation tube. So you could use either body with the rest of the stock configuration.

Thank you for this thoughtful response, but alas there is no shipping to the USA now. Not sure where I would even purchase.

 

[Alexis]

Thank you for this thoughtful response, but alas there is no shipping to the USA now. Not sure where I would even purchase.

Verdampftnochmal?

 

[kadjo]

Verdampftnochmal?

I contacted them. They stopped shipping to the UsA 2 months ago.

 

[Alexis]

I contacted them. They stopped shipping to the UsAb2 months ago.

That’s a shame. Vaposhop don’t ship there either. Verdamper used to have a store themselves, not sure if they stil do, think it was Verdamper.nl possibly, or deverdamper.nl

 

[kadjo]

That’s a shame. Vaposhop don’t ship there either. Verdamper used to have a store themselves, not sure if they stil do, think it was Verdamper.nl possibly, or deverdamper.nl

I checked them too. The quest for de verdamper begins

 

[Alexis]

Nl

I checked them too. The quest for de verdamper begins

Wishing you best luck, sorry I can’t help more. Head is still, quite pleasantly actually, scrambled from a 1600 microgram LSD trip Saturday night....still going some, to be honest, as I should expect. I had a little vape tonight, edibles earlier and 50 grams well lovely kava I made.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

I checked them too. The quest for de verdamper begins

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Verdamper - Deluxe

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[Orvaxxx]

Thank you for this thoughtful response, but alas there is no shipping to the USA now. Not sure where I would even purchase.

Have you tried contacting Evert himself, he might know who ships to the States.

 

[The Chemist]

I was already nervous every times I use the Verdamper because it's all in glass and I don't want to break something.
If it becomes more difficult to buy the vape and the spare parts my stress levels are gonna be off the chart.
Thankfully one hit from the Verdamper always calm me down, until I have to clean the glass.

 

[Weedaholic]

Anyone know is this the latest heater for the verdamper are is it the older one ?
I was thinking of just buying the heater,power supply and the bowl instead of the whole kit.
https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer-brands/verdamper/verdamper-heating-element/

 

[Alexis]

Anyone know is this the latest heater for the verdamper are is it the older one ?
I was thinking of just buying the heater,power supply and the bowl instead of the whole kit.
https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer-brands/verdamper/verdamper-heating-element/

I see only one distinction regarding verdamper heaters as far as purpose and function is concerned.

Adjustable temp or power, and fixed as in the OG.

I assume this one at Vaposhop is the standard non adjustable heat level heater.

if it was the adjustable one which Vaposhop also sell, I’m sure it would be visibly obvious.

I will say though they could have supplied more product details. Instead of nadder effectively.

if you want certainty you would need to ask them for confirmation.

 

[Weedaholic]

if it was the adjustable one which Vaposhop also sell, I’m sure it would be visibly obvious.

That is the only verdamper heating element i see on the site unless i am blind.
If it was visibly obvious it would give more information not just a picture of the top of the heating element.

But thanks anyway.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Any Verdamper model uses AC/DC ,buy just heater and bowl . I recommend getting the one that the vapbong uses, check ebay,aliexpress,banggood for 3-12v 5a AC/DC (Power supply) .https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001240394459.html .This offer has international stock options.

 

[Weedaholic]

Any Verdamper model uses AC/DC ,buy just heater and bowl . I recommend getting the one that the vapbong uses, check ebay,aliexpress,banggood for 3-12v 5a AC/DC (Power supply) .https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001240394459.html This offer has international stock options.

Thank you bro such much for that....I actually have the vapbong so that's a plus

 

[Alexis]

That is the only verdamper heating element i see on the site unless i am blind.
If it was visibly obvious it would give more information not just a picture of the top of the heating element.

But thanks anyway.

I haven’t visited Vaposhop for a while and I certainly did not mean to insinuate patronisation towards you or suggest lack of scupal.

Previously, very clearly, they offered the adjustable temp Verdamper heating element, plus the regular OG Verdampers.

I didn’t check but I assumed they still have the adjustable one and this was the regular.

I would now assume they have no adjustables in stock, and this is the OG fixed at
200 C one.

But we agree on that- more information please Vaposhop. I don’t want to use my crystal ball to decipher what I’m looking at when I re-order teabags.

 

[kadjo]

Have you tried contacting Evert himself, he might know who ships to the States.

I did. Still waiting for response. I have been emailing and exploring options. I almost grabbed one a few months ago before the mail got jacked.

De Verdamper Vaporizer (Deluxe Valve Version Large 2000ml) – Vapour Town – Dry Herb Vaporizers | Herb Vaporizers | Herbal Vaporizers | Herbal Grinders | Herbal Vaping

De Verdamper Small Vaporizer

De Verdamper Small Vaporizer heeft een kleinere pot van 1,5 liter. Er treedt dus echt geen verbranding op, zelfs niet een klein beetje! Bestel deze kwaliteitsverdamper eenvoudig online bij Apollyon.

www.apollyon.nl

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www.vaporisateur.net

Vaporizer 'Verdamper' de Luxe klein, mit oder ohne Ventil, regelbar o

Vaporizer 'Verdamper' de Luxe klein, mit oder ohne Ventil, regelbar oder standard in Standgeräte, Vaporizer

shop.vivasativa.at

Verdamper - Deluxe

The De Verdamper - Deluxe vaporizer was developed by Dutchman Evert, who was looking for a purer and cleaner experience. In 1995 his experiments with a hot air paint stripper and a bong gave him the idea of the Verdamper, after he noticed that the effect of this combination was not only purer...

www.chiron420.eu

Zoekresultaten voor verdamper

De webwinkel van Wernard Bruining ook wel bekend van Stichting Mediwiet. Bij CBDshop vind je cbd-olie, cbd-zal, cbd-thee, alles wat je nodig hebt om je eigen ol

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Thank you. This was really kind.

 

[justcametomind]

Have you tried contacting Evert himself, he might know who ships to the States.

Earlier in this thread someone said have contacted Evert ( @rodders83 ?) but he wasn’t very helpful IIRC, and ended up getting one of the few full kits available.
@Abysmal Vapor there are 2 different Verdamper heating elements. Which one do you think would work with Vapbong’s AC adapter?
It would be awesome if the older 12V heating element could be powered that way because the 7-12V one is not anymore readily available. FWIW my Mighty which should be 12V gets charged if I connect it with VapBong’s AC adapter.

 

[Orvaxxx]

Earlier in this thread someone said have contacted Evert ( @rodders83 ?) but he wasn’t very helpful IIRC, and ended up getting one of the few full kits available.
@Abysmal Vapor there are 2 different Verdamper heating elements. Which one do you think would work with Vapbong’s AC adapter?
It would be awesome if the older 12V heating element could be powered that way because the 7-12V one is not anymore readily available. FWIW my Mighty which should be 12V gets charged if I connect it with VapBong’s AC adapter.

That’s strange, the few times I reached out to him he was very helpful.
Could be because I am in the Netherlands.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Earlier in this thread someone said have contacted Evert ( @rodders83 ?) but he wasn’t very helpful IIRC, and ended up getting one of the few full kits available.
@Abysmal Vapor there are 2 different Verdamper heating elements. Which one do you think would work with Vapbong’s AC adapter?
It would be awesome if the older 12V heating element could be powered that way because the 7-12V one is not anymore readily available. FWIW my Mighty which should be 12V gets charged if I connect it with VapBong’s AC adapter.

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There is difference only in the PSU as far as i see. Those are AC/DC adapters not AC !
I dont think there is a difference in the heaters,even if there is ,still it is just a coil(think e-cig coil) ,it is zero problem to regulate the voltage,nichrome is very durable. Both the old and new supply are 2 or 3 amps so... 5a should be more than enough . ( Vaposhop says 5amps . https://www.vaposhop.com/vaporizer-accessoires/de-verdamper-power-adapter-transformator/ )
I think the other difference is that you will have to install a 2.1mm plug on one of the versions.

 

[justcametomind]

Finally I received my poorman’s Verdamper as suggested by Abysmal above. It works wonders with my Vapbong power adapter. I want to stress that Verdamper 7-12V heater (probably also the older one) comes prepackaged with a female joint 18.8 bowl from the factory. While I purchased a male one to use it with Herbo’s bubbler or my D020D, it could have been 45€ cheaper without buying a spare bowl.
If you want to try a Verdamper and already have an male 18.8 connection oil rig you can just buy the 7-12 heater and get a JTD-001 regulated power adapter.
This isn’t even mentioned in the item description on vivasativa shop or verdampnochtmal which are some of the few who have these in store. After setting the power adapter to 12V it settles down to 11.0/10.9 after a while, as the VapBongs also does. It’s Wooooööooorking.
Edit:
I chose this set up because I already have a million vapes. I wanted to try one of the heaviest hitters I missed without cluttering my house any further with such a big water piece. No doubt it’s one of the best bongs available, modular, seems easy to clean but even on top of my D020D the heater seems well centered, stable and perfectly usable.
I just checked the instructions booklet: other than the Verdamper logo there’s “Horky sro” company mentioned. It’s old news but it seems this Czech company makes an own version of this vaporizer.
check this Dutch forum topic back from 2012 https://www.wietforum.nl/topic/89896-de-horky-waterpijp/

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Finally I received my poorman’s Verdamper as suggested by Abysmal above. It works wonders with my Vapbong power adapter. I want to stress that Verdamper 7-12V heater (probably also the older one) comes prepackaged with a female joint 18.8 bowl from the factory. While I purchased a male one to use it with Herbo’s bubbler or my D020D, it could have been 45€ cheaper without buying a spare bowl.
This isn’t even mentioned in the item description on vivasativa shop or verdampnochtmal which are some of the few who have these in store. After setting the power adapter to 12V it settles down to 11.0/10.9 after a while, as the VapBongs also does. It’s Wooooööooorking.

This happens because resitance of the heating element changes when it heats up . There are some auto-tune buck boosts that compensate/maintain set voltage value ,but this one has the cheapest one integrated.