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arb

Semi shaved ape
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Seriously though this hits like a champ. Not sure but it seems like different units need more power than others. And this is dry btw, I can't even imagine this thing through Water
Get a piece and change your life style.
Drilled out a Nong to .50 inch and reshaped the tube after I warped it.......be careful.
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Hits perfect really a improvement over the small bore.
 

BKR2311

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Get a piece and change your life style.
Drilled out a Nong to .50 inch and reshaped the tube after I warped it.......be careful.
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Hits perfect really a improvement over the small bore.
I most likely will when the kids get a little bigger. They always hang out in our room so I try to keep my setup as discrete as possible
 

CurryLeafTreehugger

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Just wanted to update everyone. Dave sent me a 15v wall connector that I'm using through the dual vvps. I set it to 13, and it gives MASSIVE clouds. Absolutely huge. I might have to drop it to 12.5 so it doesn't combust. Compare that to the 12v that sometimes would barely roast the herb.

So for anyone that feels they aren't getting that little extra power, you might need to order a stronger power supply to get that little boost. This thing really does rip harrrrrrd

Glad you got it working!

Arb tries to collect!
I bet you a Alpha that fixes the issue.
15 should prolly be standard for Alpha cores?
Some people wanna go hotter than others.
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Relax, boys. Betting on Underdog is no bet, LOL! (cuz its a sure thing)

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Seriously though this hits like a champ. Not sure but it seems like different units need more power than others. And this is dry btw, I can't even imagine this thing through Water

Hey I've got one that runs at 9.7V (whatever that translates to in Watts) and it STILL feels hot. Its not crisping the herb but it gets hot anyway.

Right now its plugged in to my Tekpower because I've assumed it would be my daily drive but I am REALLY liking Ondine, my Maple Alpha. She's not great at microdosing though. So it actually sort of fits in a little better if I keep Agni for microdosing before bed and Ondine for everything else - because I want to be careful of Agni's wood body. So if I only heat her up for microdosing I think I am preserving the wood.

I'm telling ya, bong. I've seen absolutely enormous volcano type clouds through a bong. I don't do it myself, it'd probably kill me, lightweight that I am - but I've seen OTHERS do it.

OK so I was posting in reply to other posts and somehow MINE all ended up bunched together at the end. Not sure how that happened, I didn't post them one after another but that is how they are displaying.
 

CurryLeafTreehugger

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I've had some weirdness going on with my herb and my new Alpha, Ondine. At first I swore it wasn't packing like in my old SC2 - WHICH IT ISN'T - but something else weird started happening and I've finally figured it out.

Grinder output.jpg

Above is what I get out of my Golden Gate grinder. Same herb. Same grinding session. I pregrind a small amount at a time and keep in a glass jar and the fines fall to the bottom rather more quickly than I would have imagined, had I paused to consider it, which I had not.

So basically the coarsest output of my grinder I would consider "fine" and the stuff at the bottom of the picture? Too fine for use in a vape. This actually comes through the screen. I discovered this when I tried to fill my stainless steel/nylon stem via the suck-it-up method and stuff started coming through the screen. Because I was at the bottom of the vial, where the fines were, instead of at the top, where I usually scoop from when I scoop-and-fill.

So I scooped some off the top layer and some off the bottom (there's really only like a gram or so but it still readily self-stratifies) and laid it out to see the difference and I was shocked.

So ... still in the market for a coarser grinder that doesn't create so many crumbs.

In the meantime, the increased air flow means that as long as I scoop to fill I don't seem to draw much through the screen before it "crusts over". It doesn't actually pack like it did in the SC2 - I had to SCRAPE with the business end of a nutpick to break that up and it totally cut off air flow - but it does crust together so the tiny particles stick to each other and don't come through the screen so readily. And you still get good airflow and tiny particles that stick together are still small pieces so ... I'm managing for now, but a better grinder is still on my wishlist.
 

tom battleboar

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Hi. Bro I have issues with my alpha core, I don't get full extraction on like freakin 11.8 to 12.2. No sense either on 12.5. And I mean full extraction on SC3+ & SC3. I think it's just because the direct draw nylon is not getting the correct heat. Lol I think I should stick to my SC3+ for micro dosing full extraction vs alpha big bowl size ๐Ÿ˜… Has wonderful quality tasting terps which are great to continue on my SC3+ before it tastes like popcorn eww
 

arb

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Hi. Bro I have issues with my alpha core, I don't get full extraction on like freakin 11.8 to 12.2. No sense either on 12.5. And I mean full extraction on SC3+ & SC3. I think it's just because the direct draw nylon is not getting the correct heat. Lol I think I should stick to my SC3+ for micro dosing full extraction vs alpha big bowl size ๐Ÿ˜… Has wonderful quality tasting terps which are great to continue on my SC3+ before it tastes like popcorn eww
Can you upload a pic of the material after using the Alpha?
 
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GraniteState420

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I've had some weirdness going on with my herb and my new Alpha, Ondine. At first I swore it wasn't packing like in my old SC2 - WHICH IT ISN'T - but something else weird started happening and I've finally figured it out.

View attachment 6556

Above is what I get out of my Golden Gate grinder. Same herb. Same grinding session. I pregrind a small amount at a time and keep in a glass jar and the fines fall to the bottom rather more quickly than I would have imagined, had I paused to consider it, which I had not.

So basically the coarsest output of my grinder I would consider "fine" and the stuff at the bottom of the picture? Too fine for use in a vape. This actually comes through the screen. I discovered this when I tried to fill my stainless steel/nylon stem via the suck-it-up method and stuff started coming through the screen. Because I was at the bottom of the vial, where the fines were, instead of at the top, where I usually scoop from when I scoop-and-fill.

So I scooped some off the top layer and some off the bottom (there's really only like a gram or so but it still readily self-stratifies) and laid it out to see the difference and I was shocked.

So ... still in the market for a coarser grinder that doesn't create so many crumbs.

In the meantime, the increased air flow means that as long as I scoop to fill I don't seem to draw much through the screen before it "crusts over". It doesn't actually pack like it did in the SC2 - I had to SCRAPE with the business end of a nutpick to break that up and it totally cut off air flow - but it does crust together so the tiny particles stick to each other and don't come through the screen so readily. And you still get good airflow and tiny particles that stick together are still small pieces so ... I'm managing for now, but a better grinder is still on my wishlist.
I just grabbed a second Pucc grinder, can't say enough about these - so close to the brilliant cut for 36 bucks on puffitup, or 49 shipped from pucc.com....

Hi. Bro I have issues with my alpha core, I don't get full extraction on like freakin 11.8 to 12.2. No sense either on 12.5. And I mean full extraction on SC3+ & SC3. I think it's just because the direct draw nylon is not getting the correct heat. Lol I think I should stick to my SC3+ for micro dosing full extraction vs alpha big bowl size ๐Ÿ˜… Has wonderful quality tasting terps which are great to continue on my SC3+ before it tastes like popcorn eww
When I read posts like this I truly scratch my head. By no means am I suggesting the issues are not valid, they just don't match my experience. My alpha is as simple as plug it in, heat to 10.8, suck some material into my chosen stem....next stop milky-cloud-city! Hope you get it figured out....maybe post a video?
 

tom battleboar

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left coffee color sc3+ 10.5 10.4 right alpha 11.0 to 12.5 and including sc3 at 12.5 all light brown green. I can revape avb in sc3+ to coffee color but the it tastes like some muslin bag.

Lol clouds this thing can fill a room.
 
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CurryLeafTreehugger

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left coffee color sc3+ 10.5 10.4 right alpha 11.0 to 12.5 and including sc3 at 12.5 all light brown green. I can revape avb in sc3+ to coffee color but the it tastes like some muslin bag.

No offense, guy, but the stuff on the right is ABV. The stuff on the left? That's burnt to just this side of ash. I see no green left whatsoever. Of course it tastes like ass - it IS ass by the time you fully extract and then put it back in for a second go LOL! You're already getting full extraction, but your SC3+ is going all the way to black by the end of the draw, that's all.
 

CurryLeafTreehugger

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Are those quantities you're showing from one stem pack each? Cuz if so, way too much material for the alpha

Actually experimenting with mine - if you load carefully eg DO NOT TAMP AT ALL (I scoop and tap to settle) you can get an awful lot in the Alpha glass stem. It doesn't pack down during the draw the way it did in my previous dogs.

That said I filled mine up as much as I dared ONCE and won't be doing that again. I am a lightweight!
 

tom battleboar

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Hi lol. I guess one user understands my useage ๐Ÿคฃ

Are those quantities you're showing from one stem pack each? Cuz if so, way too much material for the alpha
Right 2 alphas and 2 sc3 left coffee as fudge lol sc3+ tastes like over done popcorn not combusted at all just like coffee grounds.

Actually experimenting with mine - if you load carefully eg DO NOT TAMP AT ALL (I scoop and tap to settle) you can get an awful lot in the Alpha glass stem. It doesn't pack down during the draw the way it did in my previous dogs.

That said I filled mine up as much as I dared ONCE and won't be doing that again. I am a lightweight!
Lol done with alpha my room was filled last night I was tripping ๐Ÿ˜‚ this thing rips. I gave my pax 3 to my homi for free cause he has a combustible addictions.
 

CurryLeafTreehugger

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for some reason i donk think that is the right URL lol (https://puccgrinder.com/)


But Im finally getting an Underdog this week if there is a drop with something beautiful! Hopefully I can get an Alpha

I highly highly highly recommend an Alpha - even when I'm not high I would STILL recommend an Alpha. Mine is UBER STABLE as well as being a beautiful hunkawood.

EDIT: I will admit it is a challenge to microdose in the Alpha so far ... perhaps this will improve for me as time passes
 

arb

Semi shaved ape
I highly highly highly recommend an Alpha - even when I'm not high I would STILL recommend an Alpha. Mine is UBER STABLE as well as being a beautiful hunkawood.

EDIT: I will admit it is a challenge to microdose in the Alpha so far ... perhaps this will improve for me as time passes
Perhaps its your definition of micro dose that needs adjusting?
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CurryLeafTreehugger

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About the PUCC Grinder: This is the page I found

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It looks like a less capable, cheaply made version of the Brilliant Cut Grinder except it only has ONE grind level instead of 3, it uses inferior metal, and comes in way fewer colors with no option for mix 'n match.

OH and also it is teensy, like 2". I think the BCG LARGE is the smallest grinder I would ever bother with. I do not understand why they make them so freakin' small ...

Perhaps its your definition of micro dose that needs adjusting?
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No thanks. I save a shit-ton of money this way LOL!
 

CurryLeafTreehugger

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Ha!! I prefer the SS when "micro" dosing. The glass direct loaded lightly and tamped lightly, works great too! However, sometimes I catch myself saying to myself "oh shit, I am going to be hiiiiigh as fuck, oh well, a better day!" ๐Ÿ˜‚

Yeah, sadly my manual dexterity (and failing vision) make it REALLY hard for me to handle the teensy screens that needs. I dropped the screen out of that TWICE before I even used it and almost couldn't find it the second time LOL!

BUT they ALSO sent me the Alpha version of the nylon & SS stem - and the SS part comes OUT of the nylon part so I can put a screen in upside down (flat top up) which is my wont. I imagine removing and replacing it will eventually wear out the nylon part but I don't need to clean screens that often anyway when they are flat side up so it works for me.

I just need to get a teensy scooper and then I won't be tempted to overfill the glass stem LOL!
 

Sour Dream

Blue Dream enthusiast
I highly highly highly recommend an Alpha - even when I'm not high I would STILL recommend an Alpha. Mine is UBER STABLE as well as being a beautiful hunkawood.

EDIT: I will admit it is a challenge to microdose in the Alpha so far ... perhaps this will improve for me as time passes
Yea Iโ€™d prefer to get one but Iโ€™ll have to see the options, if I donโ€™t see one that really speaks to me Iโ€™ll get the sc3+ but Iโ€™m not worried about microdosing too much

About the PUCC Grinder: This is the page I found

View attachment 6572

It looks like a less capable, cheaply made version of the Brilliant Cut Grinder except it only has ONE grind level instead of 3, it uses inferior metal, and comes in way fewer colors with no option for mix 'n match.

OH and also it is teensy, like 2". I think the BCG LARGE is the smallest grinder I would ever bother with. I do not understand why they make them so freakin' small ...
I have a BCG I just wanted to point people to the right url since the other one wasnโ€™t in use and available for sale lol, I wouldnโ€™t get a pucc either but it seems nice for my friends
 

Ripstar

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Yeah, sadly my manual dexterity (and failing vision) make it REALLY hard for me to handle the teensy screens that needs. I dropped the screen out of that TWICE before I even used it and almost couldn't find it the second time LOL!

BUT they ALSO sent me the Alpha version of the nylon & SS stem - and the SS part comes OUT of the nylon part so I can put a screen in upside down (flat top up) which is my wont. I imagine removing and replacing it will eventually wear out the nylon part but I don't need to clean screens that often anyway when they are flat side up so it works for me.

I just need to get a teensy scooper and then I won't be tempted to overfill the glass stem LOL!

I might be attempting to make some wood ones in the near future depending on time. I will let you know if I do!
 
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