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hinglemccringleberry

Well-Known Member
Anyone else notice alot of vapor harshness when sessioning with larger amounts of cbd flower? By larger I mean 0.08-0.1.
I used to notice it alot on outdoor and greenhouse strains, thinking I just needed to try some top shelf.. But the indoor BaOx I currently have from WNC also exhibits this harshness. So it's nothing to do with the quality of the flower.
And of couse it's not an issue if you stick to vaping 0.05 or less or have a long stem/whip/whatever, but when comparing it directly to top shelf THC flower on my 3" long vapor path, the CBD stuff gets very uncomfortable on the throat 3-4 hits in whereas the THC stuff doesn't give me this issue at all...
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Anyone else notice alot of vapor harshness when sessioning with larger amounts of cbd flower? By larger I mean 0.08-0.1.
I used to notice it alot on outdoor and greenhouse strains, thinking I just needed to try some top shelf.. But the indoor BaOx I currently have from WNC also exhibits this harshness. So it's nothing to do with the quality of the flower.
And of couse it's not an issue if you stick to vaping 0.05 or less or have a long stem/whip/whatever, but when comparing it directly to top shelf THC flower on my 3" long vapor path, the CBD stuff gets very uncomfortable on the throat 3-4 hits in whereas the THC stuff doesn't give me this issue at all...

Yeah I felt it was harsher as well...
 

Moses Baca

Colorado State Reformatory #8755
Yes, I agree, the cbd I've tried has been much harsher on my throat. Mixing it with thc flower helps a bit but it's still there.
I found a couple seeds in the Suver Haze I got from WHF. I'm growing one now to see if homegrown organic is any different. I've grown a couple cbd/thc lines (cannatonic and mango haze) that don't make me cough.
 

BrianTL

Westchester, NY
I've noticed the harshness too, depending on the vape I will load a pure CBD or go for a CBD/THC mix, I prefer the latter for smoothness but also depending on the situation I would just go for CBD.

Anyways. My theory on that is the THC, especially top shelf, is much more "moist" I guess would be the word. Not necessarily the humidity level of the flower, I keep 62% bovedas with everything - but your top shelf THC has a lot more "stuff" to absorb heat, vaporize, mix into the air stream and smooth things out. In other words, you're getting a lot more coming off of 1g of top shelf THC flower than you are from 1g of CBD, which effects the feeling of the vapor.
 

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Anyways. My theory on that is the THC, especially top shelf, is much more "moist" I guess would be the word. Not necessarily the humidity level of the flower, I keep 62% bovedas with everything - but your top shelf THC has a lot more "stuff" to absorb heat, vaporize, mix into the air stream and smooth things out. In other words, you're getting a lot more coming off of 1g of top shelf THC flower than you are from 1g of CBD, which effects the feeling of the vapor.
I've heard that there is a limit to the number of strains of CBD because a full crop has to stay under the .03% mark to be legal. If that was raised to 1% then more CBD strains could be introduced. So less complex buds might mean more harshness. due to the lesser complex compounds.
And another factor is indeed how it's grown. Hemp tends to be more mass produced and isn't as pampered like THC buds.

I have tried different vapes to make things less harsh and each year and each rec'd CBD bud has gotten better. The 'CBG' buds being the gentlest that I've found ATM.
I'm growing one now to see if homegrown organic is any different. I've grown a couple cbd/thc lines (cannatonic and mango haze) that don't make me cough.
I'd like to know how that goes for you as well. Since you will give that plant more love than a farmer growing 100's of plants using ordinary farming methods. Mango anything sounds like a good place to start for testing a homegrown CBD strain. :nod:
 

QF1994

Well-Known Member
I exclusively vape CBD, and it's been a while since I had decent THC flower, so it's hard for me to say whether CBD is harsher or not. I have found that CBG is very much a love it/hate it type flower. I'm not a fan, it gives me a headache, but I know people who swear by it.

I will say there's a big difference between vendors-some places I've ordered from have had uniformly good flavors, while others were a little more mixed. Personally, I'm a huge fan of Sour Space Candy for everyday use, but I just got a Beleafer sampler and have to say the Sour Blueberry Kush snuck up on me-I wasn't sure how I felt about it the first few hits, but by the end of the first bowl I was really enjoying the flavor from start to finish.

Then again, I might think CBD tastes delicious because I don't know any better, but the effects are what I need for my anxiety, so I'm a happy camper!
 

QF1994

Well-Known Member
I see some of the vendors are starting to sell delta 8 enriched cbd flower. Has anyone purchased any of this ? Please tell us about it.
Do not use it.

My understanding is that this flower is sprayed with Delta 8 distillate, which is very thick. As a result, it's cut with solvents and the solvents are not necessarily fully removed by the time it hits the flower. https://www.reddit.com/r/delta8/comments/ky38ek
I wouldn't touch the stuff. I've seen it recommended that if you want to vape it with flower, buy pure D8 distillate and put a little on top of the ground flower, instead of buying the sprayed stuff.

D8 has to be distilled, it isn't bred in the flower, so there's no way to make naturally high D8 flower, it's always sprayed.
 

CanikUser19

Trenchtown Rock
I see some of the vendors are starting to sell delta 8 enriched cbd flower. Has anyone purchased any of this ? Please tell us about it.
I stick with the D8 tinctures as a supplement to my CBD flower. Took a full dropper of the Apical Greens 8 Blend the other day as a preemptive pain killer before tackling 10 inches of snow blowing. Didn’t feel anything initially, but the typical edible creep got me after I came inside and cooled down for about 45mins. Was feeling extra nice for hours and went to bed with nary an ache or pain.
 

The Stray Fox

Separated from the group
I’m looking to try a Delta 8 product and after reading into some of the posts above I’m trying to find it in concentrate form such as wax, shatter, or crumble. I want to sandwich it with flower or dab it. Does anybody have a reputable source?
 

MoltenTiger

Well-Known Member
I’m looking to try a Delta 8 product and after reading into some of the posts above I’m trying to find it in concentrate form such as wax, shatter, or crumble. I want to sandwich it with flower or dab it. Does anybody have a reputable source?
I finally received my order of exactly this after 'patiently' waiting for a bit over 3 weeks... and I'm very happy with it !

This is one of the products I purchased from Dr. Ganja, which is an awesome store! I love it so much, I feel like I haven't totally missed out on the new age movement of commercial cannabis because of their ballsy shipping efforts. I drove past a massive field of hemp the other day and just stared, often I drive past an enormous officially licensed hydroponic set-up that is literally installed in a detention camp, yet the plant is illegal here and penalised worse than many other more sinister crimes. Does my head in. As necessary, this 3CHI Δ8THC is the best alternate cannabinoid high I've ever gotten and I couldn't even list the amount I've tried. This stuff is very pleasant.

I am a couple of small dabs in and about to go back for some more, but so far it's extremely interesting, extremely similar but not exactly. This is something I have got a bunch of incoming, and am strongly considering obtaining a fairly good stock because this is seemingly too much of an imitation. I don't actually know what the legalities of having it here are , but all that aside, purely as a mixed molecule constituent rich sauce, this stuff is great to have easy access to.

Without barely any experience, it seems this stuff is not exactly the same as ordinary THC run-of-the-mill stuff, especially the initial reaction, although it's not much different just not as.. intense.. but the aftermath, the stone, is very much on par and as the sauce is so clear and seemingly potent, I foresee far less flower in my future. Compared to CBD Flower, the effect is substantial. Some of the CBD flowers out there have very good cannabinoid profiles and even some have delta 9 THC in minor but notable quantities. But this stuff is effectively the real deal, I suppose. Early days.

delta 8 infused flower does seem suss, yet it is essentially how I first sampled it, by scraping some of this sauce into the grasshopper sandwhiched between some sour blueberry kush (CBD buds). It worked pretty well, easier with the Dabmaster however.

As a crop yield, the amount of delta 8 obtained is marginal, so this stuff requires a lot of plant matter to extract. The sauce is 90+% delta 8 THC distillate mixed with terpenes extracted from various regular cannabis strains. Essentially it is pretty basic and it's extremely clear, viscous and aromatic.


Edit. So far it seems the different strains are fairly distinguishable in smell, overall the aroma is basically overwhelmingly strong, almost sickly sweet. The effect is quite impactful and a little goes a long way with this stuff! I have 7 pots of this concoction to deal with and I think it will hold up a long while.
It's definitely an ultimate fallback or alternate or additive option, but I guess it may not be as well rounded an experience as flower, with a very wirey 'sativa' buzz mixed with a strongly sedative indica headsqueeze. I tried CBD specifically because I heard it described as non-psychoactive, and thought that it must of course be psychoactive, and concluded that it was actually non-psychedelic. This stuff is very psychedelic, you can sense the strength of the antagonisation occuring at the CB1 & 2 sites. It is dissimilar to delta 9 indescribably, but perhaps equally as powerful or impactful. I get the sense that it is something to find a balance with, as it is doctored as a concoction the dosage is incompatible at a level, unlike the usual stuff - although I say that in ignorance of having any real experience with super tweaked high-potency extracts... but a green out seems less scary than a white out caused by some lab cooked up sauce. Definitely has the ability to quickly, or slowly but surely, become something to contend with in a pretty synthetic kind of mental way. Unfortunately I'll have to tap out after 3 of 4 flavours. The lemon gelato dab was double dipped and I almost regretted that.

Definitely take it slow with this stuff, it's nice at lower levels, and pretty potent. Fun stuff.
 
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MoltenTiger

Well-Known Member
That seems a wee bit pricey. Harbor City Hemp has 10ml of 98% D8 distillate for $50 usd. Add some cannabis-derived terps to your own taste and you're good to go.
I guess it's not a door buster price, but compared to CBD wax and the like (which can be found for a similar price, especially in less legal markets) - this stuff is a completely different thing and in a way I think it's priceless. Sure you could get LSD for next to nothing in California, but I couldn't down here even in bulk. And what is it even worth spending to experience a trip. Whatever the cost to ride.

There are nuisances with dealing with this stuff as it's viscous and tedious to handle, I quite like the simplicity of having it in this sauce form, but primarily the reason I could get it at all is it's from one of few shopfronts that are happy to ship abroad, so I can actually get it, along with flower. I don't know of any other way other than black market or dark net. I didn't feel like I could easily shop around, so I stuck with my usual source and I'm pretty happy with the results. It's good to know that it is at least available somewhere closer to cost price, but I don't expect such deals for some decade/s. This was the product that came in the format that I wanted and could use easily, so it was worth a premium over the basic stuff in syringes or vials I suppose. Whatever the case, it's going to last a long time and wind up saving me money. Near 1g of pure cannabinoids is a massive amount of tassie bush worth of flower and that stuff is at a premium currently, where it can be found
 

SixStringToker

Naked member
Yea, some of the D8 distillates have the consistency of shatter! I load up a 20ml glass syringe and heat it up enough that I can flick little dab-drops off the end using the edge of a silicone container. That shit is brutal on the lungs, even at lower temps, so I usually drop it into a banger with 50/50 cbd or I sandwich it between some flower.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Got my order from Southern Charm today! unfortunately they only gave me one gram of strawberry cake, instead of the seven individual grams I ordered... I was afraid something like that might happen, oh well at least I got a gram to try, and the quarter of cherry creme too! Will report back...

Yeah my order was for seven individual grams, since they were sold out on quarters, of the strawberry cake. So yeah I paid way before it shipped, since they were so busy too! So I presume it was a mistake, or maybe they just did not have enough strawberry cake, either way I am expecting a refund or at least store credit or to be sent more strawberry cake when they have it? I told them I would let them tell me how they think they will rectify, and that I plan to order again from them regardless probably!

I just took my first hit of the strawberry cake now, level one in my Tafée Bowle, very nice! The herbs are very fresh and moist, nice dense dank nugs, fruity OG flavor...

Update by the way, Southern Charm did email me back to apologize and say they would send out a quarter of the strawberry cake... That was earlier in the week, nothing yet since, maybe they will ship out next week, may need to harvest some more first!

Also I tried their cherry creme finally last night, it was at the end of a long day of other consumables, but it did help put me to sleep real nice! Good indica with a lot of CBD, great consistency and fine flavor!

Final update now a little over a month later, since SC is a one-man operation, and they got totally swamped during their last big sale, this resolution took time. I was very patient as I had plenty of other CBD in the meantime, only a few nugs of the cherry creme left now... So I did follow up a couple times, last week he replied and said he was sending a half ounce, which just arrived today. Not bad for my purchase of seven individual grams of strawberry cake, on sale at great price, got one gram then to try and knew I liked it, now I have a full fresh half ounce to make my way through... I think I like this strawberry cake from them more than their cherry creme and more than the wife from top cola I still have plenty of too...

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...So yeah I am a very satisfied customer and can highly recommend Southern Charm... Thanks again Dusty, and keep up the great work, if you are ever over here reading this!!
 
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BrianTL

Westchester, NY
A little while back I got a bunch of CBD in, @florduh I believe it was you who mentioned some CBG flower and having difficulty finding anything decent taste wise / harshness? I owe you a pic and post. This John Snow is CBG dominant from Stardust Hemp, I wasn't sure what to expect as I had some CBG flower from these guys before it was ok. This one was better I think.

A bit leafy and not very dense compared to their CBD flower, I got their Joe Exotic and Pineapple Haze in the same order.

The John Snow CBG I didn't even grind up, I tore it into little tic tac sized chunks and vaped it that way, breaking it down further as I went until it was eventually a fine grind consistency. Flavor was really good, but not super strong. Not sure if the water filtration robbed any of that, but it tasted really "fresh" I guess would be the word. Idk, I'm not good at flavor descriptions - but nothing unpleasant about it at all. Most importantly it seemed to alleviate the soreness and stiffness I was chasing down, so I was happy about that.

I let that sink in for about 30 mins before grinding up some of the Joe Exotic (CBD) and giving that ago. Definitely more noticeable flavor here and thicker vapor, which makes sense cause these nugs are much denser and seems all around in better shape.

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I took some pics when I first got these in the mail. I opened them up to toss Boveda packs in, I've only been regularly pulling from the Pineapple Haze, which is also pretty solid.

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Lastly, some additional pics that aren’t great, but 1 TBSP for nug size reference aaaand some diesel hemp I also got which I do really like.

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Sn4Pz

Well-Known Member
Ever since that Southern Charm sale for flower, I've been waiting and waiting for the concentrate sale!

I caved and emailed Dusty asking about it, and he gave me a 50% discount for the concentrates in the store! 😍

Got a G of Hawaiian Haze and Elektra, and wow they're amazing! (Can you tell I live in an illegal state? LOL) I opened the Hawaiian Haze and it smelled like I had just cut up a fresh mango :clap: As you can see, the left (haze) is less saucy than the right (elektra).

Crappy picture, but very nice product, will certainly be coming back for more!

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MoltenTiger

Well-Known Member
@MoltenTiger thanks for suggesting this. I ordered a gram of SFV OG Delta 8 dab sauce from Dr. Ganja to give it a try. So far I’m enjoying it. The taste is wonderful. Lemony pine skunk. Definitely taking your advice and going easy. This stuff is no joke.
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Nice!

I've definitely noticed a quick tolerance build up with it, but it's still working really well 10 days later. Pretty happy with it for sure, nice and easy to work with, and the effect is really good
 

nonamekevin

Well-Known Member
In to say that I'm a fan of Apical Greens. Ordered an ounce of their heavy lifter cbd (25%) and the smell is fantastic. Followed that order up with an order of their 30g smalls deal they have of Stormy Daniel's (20%) which is very nice as well, more floral than the heavy lifter. I like Apical because they usually have a sale going, and I'm cheap. Although, after seeing some pics of @Shit Snacks stash from SC, I might have to try them out!

Like others have said, I find cbd much more harsh than flower with thc. I've been knocking out bowls of Stormy Daniel's in the elev8r lately, and I do feel I get a nice relaxed buzz off it.

:rockon:
 

QF1994

Well-Known Member
I just got some new Horn Creek in. I haven’t tried it all yet but I tried the Sour Pineapple and holy shit it is delicious. Seriously amazing taste. And excellent effects too, very calming but not spacey at all.
 

hinglemccringleberry

Well-Known Member
Ever since that Southern Charm sale for flower, I've been waiting and waiting for the concentrate sale!

I caved and emailed Dusty asking about it, and he gave me a 50% discount for the concentrates in the store! 😍

Got a G of Hawaiian Haze and Elektra, and wow they're amazing! (Can you tell I live in an illegal state? LOL) I opened the Hawaiian Haze and it smelled like I had just cut up a fresh mango :clap: As you can see, the left (haze) is less saucy than the right (elektra).

Crappy picture, but very nice product, will certainly be coming back for more!

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I would love to try this out but it's BHO derived which scares me?
 
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