AirVape legacy

[Okla68]

Well, the post office said mine was delivered at about 10am on August 18. I came home at 11am and no package was there. Contacted the company, they said file a claim with usps and offered to sell me another as said not covered by warranty. I filed a claim and it was denied. So, i got nothing and spent some coin...

That Totally SUCKS !
Whatever day a few weeks ago that mine came, got a USPS Notification that it had been delivered at 11:24 am...I had just ckd at 11:21, nothing. I ran back to the box, NOTHING !! Checked up and down the street for the postman or if I could see anyone elses mail sticking from their box. Went inside, TRIED to contact USPS, robo ! Obviously I was Freaking ! I Knew there was No Way....Worked up quite the sweat...ANXIETY, ANGER ! At 11:50 it appeared in my box. Undoubtedly, when he put in his carry bag to distribute, he Scanned it in As Delivered before he actually put in my box !!!!
So SORRY !!!!
That makes me sick at my stomach for you, especially after all this time waiting.
Lots of packages being stolen these days from porches. For the past year or so of receiving packages of growing equipment, I usually Camp by the front door Waiting as Ive had several neighbors that have lost packages lately. Usually from Amazon, FEDEX, UPS, people following the trucks and being opportunistic Thieves !

 

[sickmanfraud]

Am I the only one with a problem Legacy?

The QC was for crap. Only one of the magnets is stuck to the lid.

Received it last week. Overcharged the battery 4 hours. Read the manual. Try the vape in the evening. One wispy hit and then combustion. at 375F

Figured maybe I was the problem. Re-read the manual. Changed to C, and 185 C again caused combustion. This time on the first draw.

Anyone with any ideas? I HATE the idea of an international RMA.

 

[Xclerk]

I want to share with ya'll something I created to make my use with the legacy more manageable..

This snug little funnel is perfect for loading and mid-sesh stirring, keeping your gasket clean and material in the bowl. I 3D printed this one using a flexible TPU material. If anyone is interested in making their own, feel free to DM me and i would be happy to share my file with you.

This is def needed. Glad somone made a file.

 

[mc]

Am I the only one with a problem Legacy?

The QC was for crap. Only one of the magnets is stuck to the lid.

Received it last week. Overcharged the battery 4 hours. Read the manual. Try the vape in the evening. One wispy hit and then combustion. at 375F

Figured maybe I was the problem. Re-read the manual. Changed to C, and 185 C again caused combustion. This time on the first draw.

Anyone with any ideas? I HATE the idea of an international RMA.

400 and 405 f with full pack does just great with no combustion. This is my device anyway.

 

[Okla68]

Am I the only one with a problem Legacy?

The QC was for crap. Only one of the magnets is stuck to the lid.

Received it last week. Overcharged the battery 4 hours. Read the manual. Try the vape in the evening. One wispy hit and then combustion. at 375F

Figured maybe I was the problem. Re-read the manual. Changed to C, and 185 C again caused combustion. This time on the first draw.
I love mine, but, as I said the 1st day I received it a couple weeks ago....I SEE FINIKY ! But, when get the swing of it, its a MEGA VAPE !

Anyone with any ideas? I HATE the idea of an international RMA.

Ive found that the harder you pack the bowl, the Easier it is to combust the load. But, theres a bunch of variables. Grind, moisture content, speed, intensity and duration of draw.

 

[PPN]

I just received the legacy too. How do. You like it?

I prefer to reply you here, I'm a bit struggled with this Legacy, I would like to like it but, at the end, it's a bit finicky to use. Vapor production isn't impressive but it taste pretty good (no bad taste coming from the unit) and pure if you don't vape for too long until charring. Vapor is smooth and vaporpath seems easy to clean, battery life is impressive although I don't recommand to use it past 1/3 battery jauge cause it looks like it brings voltage very low (which isn't good for your battery longlife). Design is very nice despite to be too thick (a shame after the X was the thinner vape in the market!), I would prefer to get the buttons on the other side although I managed to use it using another finger to press button.

I may have a dude but whispy vapor and charring are the bigger issues I have... but I still not found which is the best draw rate... hi folks, do you draw hard or slow? Do you start slow and finish harder? it looks like it hit similarly to my MiniVap Peek core but results are less predictables (sometime I get good vapor and sometime whispy...).

Next bowl I thought to increase t° to 430-440 for the first hits (2-3) and lower that temp at 380 for the rest... although I'm not feeling I have so much more vapor while increasing T° but I hope to get a much quicker vapor production before to lower T° to avoid to char (I noticed bowls vaped under 400 never end with that bad burnt taste).

I tested the pad to helps for charring but it looks like it robs so much heat you get even whispier hits, I tested it under the load and on the top of the load, both didn't worked for me. I add a fine mesh screen in the bottom (this is avoid to get load in the recessed part) and another on the top to avoid to get flowers stuck on the top lid disc.

Still not sure what to think about this vape but it will need definitively improvements.

 

[sickmanfraud]

Ive found that the harder you pack the bowl, the Easier it is to combust the load. But, theres a bunch of variables. Grind, moisture content, speed, intensity and duration of draw.

On a regulated vaporizer, using it at "normal" vape temps it should NEVER be hot enough to combust.

 

[mc]

I prefer to reply you here, I'm a bit struggled with this Legacy, I would like to like it but, at the end, it's a bit finicky to use. Vapor production isn't impressive but it taste pretty good (no bad taste coming from the unit) and pure if you don't vape for too long until charring. Vapor is smooth and vaporpath seems easy to clean, battery life is impressive although I don't recommand to use it past 1/3 battery jauge cause it looks like it brings voltage very low (which isn't good for your battery longlife). Design is very nice despite to be too thick (a shame after the X was the thinner vape in the market!), I would prefer to get the buttons on the other side although I managed to use it using another finger to press button.

I may have a dude but whispy vapor and charring are the bigger issues I have... but I still not found which is the best draw rate... hi folks, do you draw hard or slow? Do you start slow and finish harder? it looks like it hit similarly to my MiniVap Peek core but results are less predictables (sometime I get good vapor and sometime whispy...).

Next bowl I thought to increase t° to 430-440 for the first hits (2-3) and lower that temp at 380 for the rest... although I'm not feeling I have so much more vapor while increasing T° but I hope to get a much quicker vapor production before to lower T° to avoid to char (I noticed bowls vaped under 400 never end with that bad burnt taste).

I tested the pad to helps for charring but it looks like it robs so much heat you get even whispier hits, I tested it under the load and on the top of the load, both didn't worked for me. I add a fine mesh screen in the bottom (this is avoid to get load in the recessed part) and another on the top to avoid to get flowers stuck on the top lid disc.

Still not sure what to think about this vape but it will need definitively improvements.

Why would you start high and then lower the temps? I've never heard of that working before, nor has it ever worked for myself. MOst go up to keep getting vapor over time, going down will NOT produce vapor.

As for the button ont he wrong side, just turn it over, it doesn't need to be a specific way up.

I find 400-405f is the sweet spot if you pack it well. I find packing fully with no room for the herb to move works best.

 

[Okla68]

On a regulated vaporizer, using it at "normal" vape temps it should NEVER be hot enough to combust.

Didnt mean Combust as much as I meant Char!
Never heard of starting High then Loweri g temp ??? Its the Other way Low to High !
And 400-405°....Wow...I can Char it at 350°F depending on draw technique! When I 1st got mine, 2-3 weeks ago, I started at 390°F, since I have settled in at 340°F on Session and 350°F with OD. Get tasty, good vapor for a full 10 minute session.
Fine grind, full Soft pack, Low moisture and a moderate Full draw produces the best Vapor.
IMO, you can Taste it when it Starts to Char signaling Stop the draw...a quick stir and good to go to finish. Since receiving it Ive used Nothing Else...3 weeks ! Flower, Flower Concentrate Sandwich and Diamonds w/ Pad !
Is it "Finiky", Yes. Is it a good vaporizer, HELL YES !

 

[R1ng0]

Am I the only one with a problem Legacy?

The QC was for crap. Only one of the magnets is stuck to the lid.

Received it last week. Overcharged the battery 4 hours. Read the manual. Try the vape in the evening. One wispy hit and then combustion. at 375F

Figured maybe I was the problem. Re-read the manual. Changed to C, and 185 C again caused combustion. This time on the first draw.

Anyone with any ideas? I HATE the idea of an international RMA.

No I have a problem one to, I tried everything to make this work i could even get charring at 162C and 160C there is a quck easy fix thtough, take a standard vape screen and press it inside the gold chamber covering that bottom part which is what causes the charring, now you can vape at the normal temp which to me is what I set my mighty at 192 C although on the legacy without the screen its just chars really badly. I think it probably requires a few firmware updates so that the temp of the oven base is what is reported rather then the overall temp. And No vape that cost 200+ should char or be so finickity, however another good tip go on any online site and buy a small hip flask funnel which loads it perfectly with no spill. Also with the screen inside it no longer requires stirring for an nice even vape, and absolutely no charring.

 

[Xclerk]

So I'm pissed at the CS w these guys again. On Aug 17th after an issue w the shipping on the legacy device itself I had sent then an email confirming they had my correct address for when the battery shipped. Come to find out today they did it with the battery anyway. This time it says delivered when the address actually doesnt exist. I showed them the tracking for the original that they received back after getting sent back for No such address. But now they are giving me a hassle because it says delivered. Honestly may be done w these guys if they dont fix this. I specifically reached out well before it shipped to avoid the hassle and somehow it turned out worse. Seems pretty simple to me if they got the legacy itself back cause if no such address how they could think the battery could actually be delivered there. Mehhh just mad

 

[PPN]

Why would you start high and then lower the temps? I've never heard of that working before, nor has it ever worked for myself. MOst go up to keep getting vapor over time, going down will NOT produce vapor.

As for the button ont he wrong side, just turn it over, it doesn't need to be a specific way up.

I find 400-405f is the sweet spot if you pack it well. I find packing fully with no room for the herb to move works best.

Yes, I know, this is look strange but the idea behind is to build some heat soak going high T° for a hit or two to help the vapor going on... and lower the heat to your preferred temp. I remenber we used that trick with another vape a few years ago but I agree it's not the best idea I had!

As for the button ont he wrong side, just turn it over, it doesn't need to be a specific way up.

Oh yes! My bad... although the heater may overheat if the unit is upside down in session mode... may not be an issue with on-demand mode though...

I got good results between 385-405, very good taste, smooth, potent but vapor outputs isn't very thick but not whispy. This is a nice vape to sip but I didn't found how to get it to rip! There is a learning curve, definitively!

Do you use your in session mode or on-demand mode? Still not found the trick with on-demand so I use session mode at the moment.

 

[mephisto]

I believe the reason charring is taking place is due to the small channel that the heated air enters the oven. The middle of an oven load will turn black and start to taste burnt very quickly in session mode. I had less charring and better experience at 340 in on demand mode. For the cost of this vape, it should not be overshooting set temps so badly. I think users that can actually use temps above 380 setpoint may have cool running devices. A decent first attempt at convection from Airvape. Their tactics and CS are extremely suspect.

 

[mc]

Yes, I know, this is look strange but the idea behind is to build some heat soak going high T° for a hit or two to help the vapor going on... and lower the heat to your preferred temp. I remenber we used that trick with another vape a few years ago but I agree it's not the best idea I had!

Oh yes! My bad... although the heater may overheat if the unit is upside down in session mode... may not be an issue with on-demand mode though...

I got good results between 385-405, very good taste, smooth, potent but vapor outputs isn't very thick but not whispy. This is a nice vape to sip but I didn't found how to get it to rip! There is a learning curve, definitively!

Do you use your in session mode or on-demand mode? Still not found the trick with on-demand so I use session mode at the moment.

Session mode, and take long pulls, don't sip. I also find some herb doesn't give a lot of cloud while others do.

 

[mc]

Did anyone get a shipping norification for a battery replacement? I'm wondering if this was a mistake or are they giving us another battery for some reason?

 

[Okla68]

Did anyone get a shipping norification for a battery replacement? I'm wondering if this was a mistake or are they giving us another battery for some reason?

I was the 1st to get mine in here and Ive heard Nothing about a New Battery !

 

[mc]

I was the 1st to get mine in here and Ive heard Nothing about a New Battery !

I just went back and realised I ordered a second battery originally and it never came. I comepletly forgot about it but I guess it's now on it's way.

 

[R1ng0]

I sent them an email explaining My issues and concerns and thet fact I'd like My unit exchanged as if it can't even vape ay 160C without charring then its useless, to me. I'm awaiting their reply now will update once i get one.

 

[Okla68]

Yes, I know, this is look strange but the idea behind is to build some heat soak going high T° for a hit or two to help the vapor going on... and lower the heat to your preferred temp. I remenber we used that trick with another vape a few years ago but I agree it's not the best idea I had!

Oh yes! My bad... although the heater may overheat if the unit is upside down in session mode... may not be an issue with on-demand mode though...

I got good results between 385-405, very good taste, smooth, potent but vapor outputs isn't very thick but not whispy. This is a nice vape to sip but I didn't found how to get it to rip! There is a learning curve, definitively!

Do you use your in session mode or on-demand mode? Still not found the trick with on-demand so I use session mode at the moment.

Oh yes! My bad... although the heater may overheat if the unit is upside down in session mode... may not be an issue with on-demand mode though...
Do WHAT ? Ive used mine at every angle there is.....Ive found No Difference as to which is Up and which is Down. Held mine on its side many bowls.
If you go by "Heat Rises" theory, holding Right Side Up would cause More Charing where if Upside Down, heater on Top would cause less. You would be sucking heat Down thru the bowl as opposed to it Rising Thru It ! Personally, dont think it matters much.

 

[mephisto]

I would be surprised if Airvape does anything about overheating/exchanges. I believe it is a design flaw, not necessarily unit specific. What will you do when the replacement unit behaves the same way?

 

[mc]

I would be surprised if Airvape does anything about overheating/exchanges. I believe it is a design flaw, not necessarily unit specific. What will you do when the replacement unit behaves the same way?

I'm not getting combustion and I"m going all the way up to 410f, so I believe he may have a faulty unit.

 

[Okla68]

I'm not getting combustion and I"m going all the way up to 410f, so I believe he may have a faulty unit.

I can get Char at 340°F !...Several factors, Strain, Draw Speed, Intensity, Grind, Moisture content. All determine what kind of Vapor is produced and how easy it is to Char. The unit is Not a One Button Push To Play device. IMO, Not a device for a Vape Novice. If you want a unit like that, get an "X" or a Mighty ! Something you can Fill, push a button and Suck, No Technique required. IMO, that is NOT this device.

Has anyone filled the bowl, put in session mode, set the temp 375 or so and laid it down, Not taking Any draws and when the session is over, examined the material to see what it looks like ????

 

[mephisto]

I will do so now. Potential shit storm provocation when folks may find out that not only does their brand new vape burn their gear, but is also suffering from conduction.
Here goes, 370 walk away bowl........to be continued.

 

[Okla68]

I will do so now. Potential shit storm provocation when folks may find out that not only does their brand new vape burn their gear, but is also suffering from conduction.
Here goes, 370 walk away bowl........to be continued.

Did you put the Heater Up or Down ? Heat Rises....dont know if that will make a difference ! Cant believe I haven't tried it yet.....LISTENING !

 

[mephisto]

Well, Airvape has given us a full convection device it would seem. Zero cooking of a static bowl left for a full session at 370. Now if only we could determine what temps are viable for our use without charring. All of the normal factors relative to convective heating are at play with this device. As mentioned ad nauseum throughout FC. Now if 330 will roast nicely without massive "blackening"
of the bowl contents, then I will just use this vape at that temp. The Legacy does work, it is convection, and the quality is good enough.
Now lets see the true determination of "good" as it relates to Airvape customer service.