Underdog Log Vapes

bassguy

New Member
So I've been playing with my Zebradog, and am getting closer to a good technique, screen placement, amount, etc. I'm caching in one pull with the glass stem, but still tinkering.
My glass has a hairline crack and tiny chips, so I need a new one. Might try getting a pack of these. Also looking for someone who makes dimpled cooling stems, so far no one has responded to inquires.
Has anyone experimented with other types of screens? Titanium, brass, silver, gold etc.?
 

blokenoname

DIY Log Dabbler 😁🪵💪💨💨💨
So I've been playing with my Zebradog, and am getting closer to a good technique, screen placement, amount, etc. I'm caching in one pull with the glass stem, but still tinkering.
My glass has a hairline crack and tiny chips, so I need a new one. Might try getting a pack of these. Also looking for someone who makes dimpled cooling stems, so far no one has responded to inquires.
Has anyone experimented with other types of screens? Titanium, brass, silver, gold etc.?
Those glass stems might prove too wide and draw too much ambient air for glass roasting. Stem ID is 11mm. The heater port of the UD is a 3/8" ss tube, which is ~9,5mm. Go for s/thing with a 10mm ID or directly from UD.
 

ljackstar

Member
Hey gang, I was cleaning my stems today when I realized the screens in my glass stems are starting to develop a bit of rust. There also seems to be a little bit of rust that is stuck onto the glass stem itself. Would these stems still be safe to use? I plan on going to my local smoke shop and buying some more screens, but if I need to buy new stems I will.
 
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RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Hey gang, I was cleaning my stems today when I realized the screens in my glass stems are starting to develop a bit of rust. There also seems to be a little bit of rust that is stuck onto the glass stem itself. Would these stems still be safe to use? I plan on going to my local smoke shop and buying some more screens, but if I need to buy new stems I will.

Clean the stems with ISO and torch the screens clean or replace them. . . you're good to go.
 

shredder

Well-Known Member
Hey gang, I was cleaning my stems today when I realized the screens in my glass stems are starting to develop a bit of rust. There also seems to be a little bit of rust that is stuck onto the glass stem itself. Would these stems still be safe to use? I plan on going to my local smoke shop and buying some more screens, but if I need to buy new stems I will.


Are you sure it's rust? Baked on resin is more likely and is cleanable. If it really rust, I'd pitch the screens and replace with stainless steel (rust free) screens. And rust or resin the glass should clean up.
 

Verax

Well-Known Member
I can't speak for rust, but I just pop the screens out, and toss them, along with the stem in a jar of ISO for a day, rinse them off, let them dry, and reassemble. I don't think I have actually replaced a screen in like 5 years of use. (with some very heavy use in the colder months)
 

wheresjessicaa

Active Member
Hey everyone :wave: . Can anyone help me or point me to the right direction finding the right item for using my Underdog vape on the go / making it portable? It was gifted to me from my brother since he will be moving and won't be able to take it with him. Will this one work? Any other ones you guys recommend?
Walmart link

Thanks :)
 
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wormraper

Well-Known Member
Hi guys. I'm an "older" user who bought his first dog back in early 2015 back before all the new "hotness" of VPS's came about. I have a few quick questions as there's only so many pages back I can go.

I have a 2015 (march) model of Underdog and it's only minimally used because for 3 years I got very VERY sick with a chronic illness that made it very difficult to vape. Anywhooo, basically it's in great condition and works like a charm. My questions are.

1. Are there any big advantages for the new Underdogs (when they get released being that I see they're out of stock due to the fire)?

2. What does the VPS accomplish? meaning why would I need anything less than the full 12v as supplied by the basic charger? Also could I buy the VPS separately and use it with my older 2015 model, or would it be best to use it with the newer models?

sorry for the basic bitch questions, but I've been out of the purchase loop for so long I feel like a newbie again. I get good results from my UD that I have now (although I would like somethign with a bit more vapor per draw than what I'm getting, but that's just the curse of a log vape with a tiny stem.)



Also, to Underdog and Underdoggette, I just saw and read up about the Paradise fire. I'm so very sorry you guys had to go through that and lose everything!! I'm so glad you guys were physically Ok though and glad you're back on your feet. I hope you guys were insured and able to at least recoup funds to rebuild. My parents in law live just north of there and they were BARELY passed on by the fire by like 10 miles. It's absolutely terrifying what is happening fire wise up there in CA right now
 
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NizzyJones

Well-Known Member
1. Are there any big advantages for the new Underdogs (when they get released being that I see they're out of stock due to the fire)?

They'll run a lil hotter and warm up a bit quicker.

2. What does the VPS accomplish? meaning why would I need anything less than the full 12v as supplied by the basic charger? Also could I buy the VPS separately and use it with my older 2015 model, or would it be best to use it with the newer models?

Approximate temp control without having to finagle with stem positioning, and if you want to use the aromatherapy cup you shouldn't leave the dog running at full power for that. They might be more helpful on the newer dogs since they run hotter but it'll work fine with old models.

Hey everyone :wave: . Can anyone help me or point me to the right direction finding the right item for using my Underdog vape on the go / making it portable? It was gifted to me from my brother since he will be moving and won't be able to take it with him. Will this one work? Any other ones you guys recommend?
Walmart link

Thanks :)

Looks like it should work, says it can put out up to 12.6V so definitely want a voltage control to run it.
 

Gigsabits53

Well-Known Member
Hi guys. I'm an "older" user who bought his first dog back in early 2015 back before all the new "hotness" of VPS's came about. I have a few quick questions as there's only so many pages back I can go.

I have a 2015 (march) model of Underdog and it's only minimally used because for 3 years I got very VERY sick with a chronic illness that made it very difficult to vape. Anywhooo, basically it's in great condition and works like a charm. My questions are.

1. Are there any big advantages for the new Underdogs (when they get released being that I see they're out of stock due to the fire)?

2. What does the VPS accomplish? meaning why would I need anything less than the full 12v as supplied by the basic charger? Also could I buy the VPS separately and use it with my older 2015 model, or would it be best to use it with the newer models?

sorry for the basic bitch questions, but I've been out of the purchase loop for so long I feel like a newbie again. I get good results from my UD that I have now (although I would like somethign with a bit more vapor per draw than what I'm getting, but that's just the curse of a log vape with a tiny stem.)



Also, to Underdog and Underdoggette, I just saw and read up about the Paradise fire. I'm so very sorry you guys had to go through that and lose everything!! I'm so glad you guys were physically Ok though and glad you're back on your feet. I hope you guys were insured and able to at least recoup funds to rebuild. My parents in law live just north of there and they were BARELY passed on by the fire by like 10 miles. It's absolutely terrifying what is happening fire wise up there in CA right now

The VPS has been a godsend for my pup! Mine tends to run very hot so I learned to control it with screen depth and draw speed. Since I acquired the VPS that Dave and Amanda sell on the site my dog is running perfect!! With the VPS I can control the heat and it makes it a more enjoyable experience. It's just too easy now :)
 

shredder

Well-Known Member
The VPS has been a godsend for my pup! Mine tends to run very hot so I learned to control it with screen depth and draw speed. Since I acquired the VPS that Dave and Amanda sell on the site my dog is running perfect!! With the VPS I can control the heat and it makes it a more enjoyable experience. It's just too easy now :)

Eggzackery!

I change the settings based on the herb. Or the tool I'm using. Having fine tuning over the heat is a huge plus IMHO.

I currently set mine to 10.7 because I'm vaping some very terpy herb with a nong and water. But using a glass stem and different herb and I'll most likely change the settings.
 

fishandmeat

New Member
They'll run a lil hotter and warm up a bit quicker.



Approximate temp control without having to finagle with stem positioning, and if you want to use the aromatherapy cup you shouldn't leave the dog running at full power for that. They might be more helpful on the newer dogs since they run hotter but it'll work fine with old models.



Looks like it should work, says it can put out up to 12.6V so definitely want a voltage control to run it.
How do I run it with voltage control? Do I need to get something else for it or do I use the VVPS that comes with the Underdog?
 

strech

Well-Known Member
I feel so lost without my trusty dog sitting there all warm and ready for me. It's only been one day and my other vapes just don't seem to hit that level my little dog got me too. I hope it's a quick fix and next week's holiday doesn't delay my reunion with my little dog.


Edited to add this is my first post since joining in 2012.
 

Diggy Smalls

Notorious
My underdog has been passed around my family for a while now. My mom has it again
This vape is so easy to use it ridiculous. Mine is the old aircore that is at the perfect temp for the little metal tips. I love to hear the herb crackle. I only have two cases that hit a load that hard and fast without scorching, and this one is perfect right out of the box. No need to adjust the temp. It's a little low temp to do glass stems as efficiently, but this is an older core that was tailored for the metal tipped bowls (if I remember right). The new ones have an updated heater core and they don't make the aircore anymore.
Instead of feeling outdated, it feels like a collector's item. Like an older guitar they don't make anymore.
@strech hang in there man, I hope you get your 'dog back soon!
 
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underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
Hi guys. I'm an "older" user who bought his first dog back in early 2015 back before all the new "hotness" of VPS's came about. I have a few quick questions as there's only so many pages back I can go.

I have a 2015 (march) model of Underdog and it's only minimally used because for 3 years I got very VERY sick with a chronic illness that made it very difficult to vape. Anywhooo, basically it's in great condition and works like a charm. My questions are.

1. Are there any big advantages for the new Underdogs (when they get released being that I see they're out of stock due to the fire)?

2. What does the VPS accomplish? meaning why would I need anything less than the full 12v as supplied by the basic charger? Also could I buy the VPS separately and use it with my older 2015 model, or would it be best to use it with the newer models?

sorry for the basic bitch questions, but I've been out of the purchase loop for so long I feel like a newbie again. I get good results from my UD that I have now (although I would like somethign with a bit more vapor per draw than what I'm getting, but that's just the curse of a log vape with a tiny stem.)



Also, to Underdog and Underdoggette, I just saw and read up about the Paradise fire. I'm so very sorry you guys had to go through that and lose everything!! I'm so glad you guys were physically Ok though and glad you're back on your feet. I hope you guys were insured and able to at least recoup funds to rebuild. My parents in law live just north of there and they were BARELY passed on by the fire by like 10 miles. It's absolutely terrifying what is happening fire wise up there in CA right now

Hope you're feeling better and are able to get that Underdog into use!

vs a 2005 Dog a newer one will most likely run considerably hotter at a given voltage. We changed the default temp level added the VVPS as a standard item to give people more headroom for higher temps and to bring the level of performance up for the glass stems and GonGs.

The reason to use the VVPS instead of just the straight 12v wallwart is to lower temps. Either because a given vape is combusting at 12v or just because maybe you want some lower temp vaping. You can certainly use the VVPS with any vintage of UD but it may run a little bit cooler than the wallwart (there's a small .1v to .3v difference in their max output).

Thanks for the kind words, we're in much better shape than we were a year ago.. scary that your parents in law were so close but very happy they weren't caught up in it.

We didn't have any insurance at the time since we were in the process of moving (well searching for a new home base) and couldn't get gap coverage because the insurance companies said the fire risk was too high.. guess they new better. That lack of insurance is why it's taking us so long to get back into the swing of things, we've had to do each little step as we found the funds. The community helped us out a ton with fundraising too back right after the fire so we were able to get many of the tools replaced at least. Now we're waiting on parts so we can get back in business and making a hard push to get back into a home/shop of our own instead of continued couch surfing.


got it. My original 2015 model really doesn't run THAT hot at full power (meaning I almost wish it was a LITTLE hotter), but if the new ones come hotter with the option to turn it up and down that makes sense. I may have to get a new one to compare.... for science and shit :D

Science and shit.. now you're on to something! The new design has many improvements over the old ones so a scientific comparison definitely might be in order. :D


I feel so lost without my trusty dog sitting there all warm and ready for me. It's only been one day and my other vapes just don't seem to hit that level my little dog got me too. I hope it's a quick fix and next week's holiday doesn't delay my reunion with my little dog.


Edited to add this is my first post since joining in 2012.

Happy first post! :cheers:

I've got your vape and power supply sitting here on my bench all patched up and ready to head back home in the morning. If you want anything sent along with it to take advantage of the free shipping opportunity put an order in or message us before we shut down for the night. :cool:


My underdog has been passed around my family for a while now. My mom has it again
This vape is so easy to use it ridiculous. Mine is the old aircore that is at the perfect temp for the little metal tips. I love to hear the herb crackle. I only have two cases that hit a load that hard and fast without scorching, and this one is perfect right out of the box. No need to adjust the temp. It's a little low temp to do glass stems as efficiently, but this is an older core that was tailored for the metal tipped bowls (if I remember right). The new ones have an updated heater core and they don't make the aircore anymore.
Instead of feeling outdated, it feels like a collector's item. Like an older guitar they don't make anymore.
@strech hang in there man, I hope you get your 'dog back soon!

Comments like that make me happy that we've kept things as simple and easy to use as possible and that's awesome that your Pup has a whole family to play with! :rockon:


@Diggy Smalls thanks for the encouragement!

I have a mini dog that has an air core. I have never used it. I sent my power supply in with my dog or I would give it a whirl.

Whoa a never used Mini.. cool. Those were pretty fun, I'm glad people enjoyed them and it's cool there are still some out there. :nod:
 
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