Arizer Solo II

BeEazy

Well-Known Member
Kinda wish I didn't give away my fancy PV stems with my Air now haha, sheeeeeit

Next disability check it's going down I think, couple weeks to go!

I sold my arizer solo with an upgraded battery, pvhes stems/gong, and almost included the pinnacle water attachment along with the deal. That was one of the biggest mistake ever in terms of vapes. I thought the alfa by goboof was good enough to replace my solo but man was wrong. I ended up buying an Arizer Air from aroma-tek, once that so called love affair ended with my alfa.

I just bought an Arizer air Pvhes stem with mouth piece, pvhes gong, and a extra battery for my air all from PV. Hopefully I don't break anything while I patiently wait on the Solo II.
 

namasteIII

Well-Known Member
Yeah I sold my solo for a boundless CF, I sold the CF within a few sessions because I knew what it wasn't. Taste was no where near solo grade, and it has a whole bunch of tiny parts that you got to clean.

Next picked up a ESV 2.0 Taste is on point and Instant on convection is pretty cool stuff. Doesn't give the biggest hits you have to stir a lot. it's got it's pros and it's cons. But it's got me itching for a session vape, maybe a return to the solo, which I loved for 2 years but sold because it had long long sessions that I grew tiered of being the only way I'd get high. But now with my ESV I got quick hits on lock and this could give me the sessions I want when I want them.

Hmm, y'all think with a high temp and a GONG I could kill a bowl in a few hits and a few minuets? Especially with this new more powerful heater I think I could right?
 

BeEazy

Well-Known Member
Hmm, y'all think with a high temp and a GONG I could kill a bowl in a few hits and a few minuets? Especially with this new more powerful heater I think I could right?

I don't currently have the Solo II, but from experience with the arizer Air/solo I don't see why not. The last two light on the Air (401F and 410F) after about 5 mins into the session(with stock stem), I find myself wanting to cut it short. Keep in mind our tolerance is different.

I would suggest the shorty version of the GONG from PV, when running high temps. I'm sure you've noticed your material closer to the heater element is way darker than the material that's further away(don't know if this apply to the solo II). Since the shorty version of the GONG has a 30% smaller bowl, you get a nice even burn.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
You would just get more convection after 30 seconds to temp with no heat soak and the flaves would be surface terps instead of the more pungent deeply penetrated terps I'd imagine. Fine with me for a first hit ... plus it will get your herbs nice n dry for your second full power fatty deep terps flavor rip .... Mmmmm full power fatty deep terps flavor rips aggghhh :mmmm:
 

biohacker

Well-Known Member
You would just get more convection after 30 seconds to temp with no heat soak and the flaves would be surface terps instead of the more pungent deeply penetrated terps I'd imagine.

Disagree, and I think I can speak for @OF here as well. Try reaching top temp, and then insert your stem and pull - and see how "convective" it is?

That 30s heatsoak is just that - conduction. :2c:
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
Disagree, and I think I can speak for @OF here as well. Try reaching top temp, and then insert your stem and pull - and see how "convective" it is?

That 30s heatsoak is just that - conduction. :2c:
Hmm ... maybe someone misread or miswrote somewhere? All I was trying to say was without the added heat soak, the convection will be a bit more noticeable compared to when you heat soaked and had all that conduction helping out.
 

biohacker

Well-Known Member
Hmm ... maybe someone misread or miswrote somewhere? All I was trying to say was without the added heat soak, the convection will be a bit more noticeable compared to when you heat soaked and had all that conduction helping out.

Unless I misconstrued and you are stating inserting the stem after heatup, I don't think so. That 30 sec initial heatsoak is conduction, and if you leave it in for another 30s you're just getting more heatsoaked conduction.

Give it a shot with your Air, heat it up to max temp, and THEN insert your stem and draw, you won't get much if any meaningful vapour.
 

tonuzzi

Spoon Dogg
I am still new to the device but from about 4 stems last night id say that the only thing that will slow you down is the draw resistance and the fact that realistically you need to add half a minute to the 30 sec heatup for pre-soak.

Through water I was ending stems in 2-3 hits.

What temps are you using? I'm getting about 4 Nice bong blasts at 200 C , Im using a PHVE Gong
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
That 30 sec initial heatsoak is conduction, and if you leave it in for another 30s you're just getting more heatsoaked conduction.
Ah, you're totally right. I guess what I was saying that the "more heat soaked conduction" would technically mean the convection to conduction ratio has changed. With just the initial heatup there would be a higher ratio of convection to conduction than compared to when you do the extra soaking.
Honestly it's not even necessarily important (well I guess it is for clarity purposes) .. was just trying to say that not waiting the extra 30 to heat soak isn't necessarily awful because there's still some convection to help out while drying the herbs and giving some flaves :)


, you won't get much if any meaningful vapour.
Hmmm. I was mostly talking about just a flavor rip but maybe there's less convection present than I assumed. Wish I could test but sold my Air a year ago. Will definitely test convection mode when Solo 2 arrives!!

Edit: @tonuzzi
"Bong blasts" haha
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Disagree, and I think I can speak for @OF here as well. Try reaching top temp, and then insert your stem and pull - and see how "convective" it is?

That 30s heatsoak is just that - conduction. :2c:

Lots of fun stuff, for sure. More fun than Ford/Chevy even. In a fun way, a good thing?

One additional 'thought experiment' on the conduction/convection thing (as if we need to keep beating this horse.....): consider the vaulted 'Ed's Stems' experience? That stem has obvious conduction losses as heat is conducted up the metal part faster than it would be up the glass ones. Even though heat is also being conducted into the load faster, only so much heat is available from the cup to supply it? So what do we do......we bump the heat up a notch or two with Ed's stems?

To compensate for the less efficient conduction heating due to the conductivity of the metal over glass. Convection would not need this, would it? And if, in fact, convection was the dominant mechanism we would have increased the vaping temperature up that same 18 degrees or so?

At the risk of repeating myself again, if you think in thermodynamic terms hot air has to be much hotter going in that coming out to supply heat energy to make the vapor happen. This is why your home heater blows 120F air around, not 72. It needs 'extra heat' so it can warm stuff (and people) inside up some and still be 72F (or whatever the target is). You need this 'delta T' (change in temperature) to move the heat. A convection source with the same temperature as the conduction source (as is here) means very little energy enters the system that way.

Not that it matters if you like the results of course. Nor, for that matter if you don't. It's just a name at that point. 'A rose, by any other name......'

Hopefully in a month or so this will 'die down' some as the chatter shifts to how wonderful and useful Solo II as a vapor making tool. And I think, in the end, that's all it really is? A tool, only valuable if it does a needed job well? Not that it's not pretty to look at, of course. But this ain't no stinking art forum.

Regards to all as we wait for the PIU ship (or whatever) to come in......

OF
 

whatitdew

Vapes R Great
Well after receiving some bad scan results today, my father sent me some money. More money then I would have expected
So now I have a Solo II!!!
ordered from theherbcafe. Never ordered from them before but have heard good things. Sorry Randy at PIU I couldn't wait the extra week or two haha.

"If I want it, I'll pay for it" (or somebody else will technically)

solo II is gonna get me thru this summer season!
 
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