The Firefly 2 vaporizer

[turk]

...said it before..,will say again...my favorite option for concentrates...

 

[yogoshio]

I still prefer the Evo overall, but in terms of portables, holy cow yes.

 

[turk]

...I hear you man...only have one problem with evo.....(my problem....NOT theirs!)...the cleaning...ff2 so much easier...I'm old....lazy

 

[jay87]

I still prefer the Evo overall, but in terms of portables, holy cow yes.

If the FF2 and Evo are in the same discussion I think that by itself is a win for the FF2



With dry herb the one thing I had to experiment with was how I packed the bowl.

Now I always pack the FF2 with coarse or finely ground material on the bottom to about 3/4 full and then on top of that I put hand torn buds that seem to hold down the finer material and act as a bud screen to prevent the load from pulling up.

Loading the FF2 this way with dry herb I easily and consistently get good results. I have to say that the vapor from my FF2 is generally quite a bit thicker than vapor from other vapes and the potency is definitely there.



While the FF2 is good with dry herb, I definitely agree that it really shines with concentrates.

For concentrates the FF2 is amazing. It seems using concentrates eliminates the ease of use difficulties and the clouds are always huge and thick. As far as concentrate vaporizers go the FF2 is the cleanest in terms of pure convection and it is also the easiest vape to clean that I've ever had by far.

The reclaim and the ease of cleaning the FF2 are criminally underrated aspects of this device imo.


Coming back to the FF2 after a break from it made me appreciate how cold the vapor is; you can legitimately get big concentrate clouds that feel cold on your throat which is unheard of from any other vaporizer that I'm aware of.


In terms of versatility alone I really think the FF2 is still unmatched by any other portable so far.

 

[toked23]

For the record I have always liked the ff2 and have never had any issues getting vapor and I've had it for 7/8 months and use it almost every day. What keeps me coming back is probably as much my situation and the way it functions more than anything else. It's is so stealth to take one or 2 pulls in a back room or bathroom and no one is any wiser. The smell is very very minimal for me as I clean it every single time I change the bowl. I can put it in my pocket and no one would ever know. I wish it was easier to get clouds though, but i pull for the full 30 seconds every single time and don't even attempt to do less unless I just can't continue to suck in, lol. If I could get it to work as easily as my pax, wow would that be the greatest vape of all time in my eyes.

 

[Astromaddie]

I searched and hadn't seen this discussed much, but I'm curious how this compares to an Underdog? I know they're both convection, with one being a desktop and one being a portable. Instant on and temperature control is a huge advantage imo, and while portability would be convenient, it'll be just at my apartment 99% of the time. I haven't dealt with concentrates yet, but with my low tolerance I'm not sure if I'd get much out of that

What are the disadvantages of the FF2 vs a desktop log? How's the heatup time? Vapour production quality comparison? Ease of use for drawing/burning between the two?

Sorry for all of the questions! The FF2 has me really excited for a portable convection vape and I'm really curious how it would stack up to the convection "standard" I already know haha.

 

[Majordude2626]

For the record I have always liked the ff2 and have never had any issues getting vapor and I've had it for 7/8 months and use it almost every day. What keeps me coming back is probably as much my situation and the way it functions more than anything else. It's is so stealth to take one or 2 pulls in a back room or bathroom and no one is any wiser. The smell is very very minimal for me as I clean it every single time I change the bowl. I can put it in my pocket and no one would ever know. I wish it was easier to get clouds though, but i pull for the full 30 seconds every single time and don't even attempt to do less unless I just can't continue to suck in, lol. If I could get it to work as easily as my pax, wow would that be the greatest vape of all time in my eyes.

I'm the exact same, with your situational use. The fact that I can pair this with a smoke buddy and get a couple of prime hits with no trace is the main advantage of this vape for me. I also use it to evaluate a new strain, flavor and effects. Main duty is smelthy stealthy, coined from another user in a different thread.

 

[mixchu69]

I want to buy this just for concentrates

 

[PPN]

Would like to join the FF2 nation but all this fancies vapes (FF2, Pax3, IQ,...) using an app to get full temperature control are not for me since I don't own any smartphone able to do that and don't want to buy both a vaporizer and a phone in order to vape!

I know I represent a minority but it would be cool Firefly will sell a unit with an app you can install on your computer (similar to the esv app).

I love this last posts about how you like it , guys.

 

[stickstones]

Now I always pack the FF2 with coarse or finely ground material on the bottom to about 3/4 full and then on top of that I put hand torn buds that seem to hold down the finer material and act as a bud screen to prevent the load from pulling up.

Loading the FF2 this way with dry herb I easily and consistently get good results. I have to say that the vapor from my FF2 is generally quite a bit thicker than vapor from other vapes and the potency is definitely there.

Thanks for sharing that little nugget...brilliant! I'll be giving this a try soon.

 

[Randy Lahey]

Looking hard at the FF2 right now. 2 things that concern me: 1) having to stir the bowl 2) questionable density or size of clouds.

Im a big cloud liker. Will I not see clouds with this vape? Also, I noticed people talking about lids. Is the chamber/crucible/oven wide open (meaning your flowers can just spill out) unless you pay extra for a lid? Looking specifically for a flower, not a concentrate vape. Thanks.

 

[jay87]

Looking hard at the FF2 right now. 2 things that concern me: 1) having to stir the bowl 2) questionable density or size of clouds.

Im a big cloud liker. Will I not see clouds with this vape? Also, I noticed people talking about lids. Is the chamber/crucible/oven wide open (meaning your flowers can just spill out) unless you pay extra for a lid? Looking specifically for a flower, not a concentrate vape. Thanks.

1)
I usually stir once per bowl and I pack with ground material on the bottom and hand torn on top.
When I'm done the hand torn buds crumble into dust and the abv is thoroughly extracted.

The lid comes with the FF2, usually the lid comes up when people have the lid not seated quite right so the vapor path is broken and no vapor will be created. (The vapor path of the FF2 is the 2 glass plates between the lid and the bottom of the device, no lid seal, no vapor path, no vapor)


2)
As far as cloud production with dry herb I've had no issues but some people have.
This is an indication about the FF2 being a manual on-demand vaporizer, and I think some people didn't understand this before they bought the vaporizer which leads to their confusion.

The FF2 is a manual convection portable vaporizer which means your draw heats the material by pulling air through the heater. If you draw much too hard the load will get cooler, and there will be less vapor, and if you draw too soft there won't be enough air flow to heat the material properly.

You stop drawing, the material stops being heated, no vapor. This is an issue for some but this allows you to take a hit, set the FF2 down, nothing wasted and you can come back and finish the load later.

To compare this to my Davinci IQ, I can get thicker clouds much faster with my FF2. I can get a greater volume of clouds more easily with my IQ but it happens over a much longer period of time.



People talk about the technique required but for me the only thing I had to figure out was how to pack it and how hard to draw and once you do it becomes second nature.



It really comes down to the type of experience you're looking for:

I like my FF2 because I can use it extremely quickly to get some good potent hits then just set it down and the FF2 is nearly smell-less.

My IQ is great for clouds and groups, but I have to wait for it to heat up, the oven is huge, and I have to use it constantly throughout the entire session or I'll be wasting my material.

When I'm deciding which vaporizer I'm going to use it completely depends on if I want an on-demand experience or a session experience.


With the FF2 you'll definitely see clouds and in my opinion when used correctly the FF2 produces the densest clouds of all of my portables(maybe tied with the vapcap heated hot), similar to the vapcap though the volume of clouds is limited by the bowl size and the convection nature of the FF2.

If you're a cloud chaser you may feel safer going with a desktop vaporizer or a conduction portable just because they tend to be easier to get the big clouds with; If you are looking for an on-demand experience and don't mind the technique that comes with a manual vaporizer then go for the FF2.

 

[Randy Lahey]

amazing thank you.

Has the ceramic oven in your IQ cracked? Im reading some having issue with this. Thanks.

 

[cloudsosmoke]

hey guys
had firefly in the past
.. saw this
(hope this not duplicate post
search didnt show it - havent tried to read whole thread)

http://www.cannainsider.com/
interview with FireFly cofounder MarkWilliams

FTA
Key Takeaways:
[3:14] – What is Firefly?
[4:02] – Mark’s background
[5:00] – Mark explains the difference between smoking and vaporizing
[6:33] – Mark talks about his Co-founder and how they came up with Firefly
[17:21] – How temperature impacts vaporizing & terpenes
[22:10] – Mark talks about terpenes
[26:30] – Mark talks about some differences between Firefly and other vaporizers
[28:16] – How do you know when your flower is spent using a vaporizer
[30:22] – Mark talks about using concentrates in Firefly
[39:34] – Mark discusses the companion app that goes with Firefly
[41:30] – Mark’s personal Firefly settings
[51:17] – Mark answers some personal development questions
[56:32] – Firefly website and contact details

hope this is interesting

 

[fogbank]

For the record I have always liked the ff2 and have never had any issues getting vapor and I've had it for 7/8 months and use it almost every day. What keeps me coming back is probably as much my situation and the way it functions more than anything else. It's is so stealth to take one or 2 pulls in a back room or bathroom and no one is any wiser. The smell is very very minimal for me as I clean it every single time I change the bowl. I can put it in my pocket and no one would ever know. I wish it was easier to get clouds though, but i pull for the full 30 seconds every single time and don't even attempt to do less unless I just can't continue to suck in, lol. If I could get it to work as easily as my pax, wow would that be the greatest vape of all time in my eyes.

My situational requirements are the same as yours. The FF2 is a very stealthy vape, but the weak spot in its stealth is the possibility of combustion. If the load combusts you immediately lose most of the stealth. It has happened to me several times. Not only will it produce odor at the time it combusts, it will continue to smell even after a thorough cleaning. The smell will only subside with time and further usage.

For this reason I no longer power tune my FF2 over the default HIGH setting, and I never re-activate the heater after the 30 second timeout. Unfortunately this often means that I have to take a second draw to get enough vapor to satisfy me. I also try to have an odor-proof pouch ready in case it combusts, so I can quickly stash it and suppress any odor.

The only vape that I have ever used/owned that beats the FF2 when it comes to stealth is the Grasshopper. It heats up faster, produces lots of vapor very quickly, emits no detectable smell, and has never combusted on me (knock on wood). Of course it has drawbacks, but the Grasshopper is by far the stealthiest of all portable vapes IME.

 

[toked23]

My situational requirements are the same as yours. The FF2 is a very stealthy vape, but the weak spot in its stealth is the possibility of combustion. If the load combusts you immediately lose most of the stealth. It has happened to me several times. Not only will it produce odor at the time it combusts, it will continue to smell even after a thorough cleaning. The smell will only subside with time and further usage.

For this reason I no longer power tune my FF2 over the default HIGH setting, and I never re-activate the heater after the 30 second timeout. Unfortunately this often means that I have to take a second draw to get enough vapor to satisfy me. I also try to have an odor-proof pouch ready in case it combusts, so I can quickly stash it and suppress any odor.

The only vape that I have ever used/owned that beats the FF2 when it comes to stealth is the Grasshopper. It heats up faster, produces lots of vapor very quickly, emits no detectable smell, and has never combusted on me (knock on wood). Of course it has drawbacks, but the Grasshopper is by far the stealthiest of all portable vapes IME.

I start at the low setting and almost never get the high setting. I climb the ladder from low to med high usually and typically don't mess with the power boost function more than say 105%. I've never combusted but it's probably because of the reasons above. I guess the flavor to me is more important than the cloud and I find that even when I think there was almost no visible vapor I still feel the effects. I do notice from time to time I will get a cloud but that's not the norm although regardless I get the effects every time without worry. I rotate strains every time it's done and don't typically take more than 2 pulls at a time. It's more to take the edge/relax after work for me as I don't have a job where ever even thinking about doing it would work during work hours at all.

I got the ff2 when it first came out and the grasshopper wasn't available at that point. I've seen it and read about it but never have had a chance to try it. Seems like it's a decent vape and does look like it could be very stealthy. I got into all this after finding this site after seeing a friend of mine with some kind of pen. Kind of evolved from there. Now I have a couple paxs and the ff2. I love them all, and they both have there place with me. I really just hate smoke and in the beginning I was keeping it all on the low but now my wife knows but I just really like the cleanliness of the ff2 and the lack of smell. Convection really works for me and I use so little now that flower cost is nothing. I figured it up to be less that .25cent a day. And that's mostly because of the ff2, the Pax isn't even close to the ff2 in that respect. 3-4 times more consumption wise, but it's ease of use and stealth look is what keeps it around for me. Really handy outside. Not so much inside, lol

 

[Luv2Vape]

There's two things though. When the unit is heating, there's a hissing noise. Is it supposed to behave like that? And after fully loading it and using it for one bowl, the light indicator on my FF2 doesn't blink when I put it on the charging unit. Is this a known issue?

Mine hisses, seems normal.
After even one draw, my FF2 charge light always blinks until fully charged when being put on the charger.

 

[Reggie Watts]

Would like to join the FF2 nation but all this fancies vapes (FF2, Pax3, IQ,...) using an app to get full temperature control are not for me since I don't own any smartphone able to do that and don't want to buy both a vaporizer and a phone in order to vape!

I know I represent a minority but it would be cool Firefly will sell a unit with an app you can install on your computer (similar to the esv app).

I love this last posts about how you like it , guys.

The IQ doesn't require an app for full temp control. You can access "precision mode" simply by pressing the power button once during a session, which then allows you to set the temp on a continuous scale in 1° increments.

 

[Randy Lahey]

DOnt know about you guys but Im not buying anything from Davinci until they weigh in on this cracking ceramic problem.

Saw a poster here post his in the pack Firefly 2 for sale then it was gone. I thought he was going to post it in classifieds but I couldnt find it there. I think he was from Kexington, KY. Looking to ask him some questions...

 

[Blackfriars]

Saw a poster here post his in the pack Firefly 2 for sale then it was gone. I thought he was going to post it in classifieds but I couldnt find it there. I think he was from Lexington, KY. Looking to ask him some questions...

Please check your system mail. Thanks!

 

[Randy Lahey]

For FF2 owners - how many hits do you get from a single "bowl"? I realize each hit is one long drag. Wondering how often you have to repack it thanks

 

[yogoshio]

I get 4 amazing draws (can't inhale all that long) and then a stir (tap it on your hand a few times) and get two more awesome draws, then done.

Depending on your tolerance, you could be done in 10 minutes or a couple hours. One bowl keeps me up for around an hour, give or take ~15.

 

[Astromaddie]

I searched and hadn't seen this discussed much, but I'm curious how this compares to an Underdog? I know they're both convection, with one being a desktop and one being a portable. Instant on and temperature control is a huge advantage imo, and while portability would be convenient, it'll be just at my apartment 99% of the time. I haven't dealt with concentrates yet, but with my low tolerance I'm not sure if I'd get much out of that

What are the disadvantages of the FF2 vs a desktop log? How's the heatup time? Vapour production quality comparison? Ease of use for drawing/burning between the two?

Sorry for all of the questions! The FF2 has me really excited for a portable convection vape and I'm really curious how it would stack up to the convection "standard" I already know haha.

I hate to "bump" but can anyone help me with this? I really can't find much in the way of comparisons between the FF2 and UD on the internet

 

[Frosty Trees]

hey guys
had firefly in the past
.. saw this
(hope this not duplicate post
search didnt show it - havent tried to read whole thread)

http://www.cannainsider.com/
interview with FireFly cofounder MarkWilliams

FTA
Key Takeaways:
[3:14] – What is Firefly?
[4:02] – Mark’s background
[5:00] – Mark explains the difference between smoking and vaporizing
[6:33] – Mark talks about his Co-founder and how they came up with Firefly
[17:21] – How temperature impacts vaporizing & terpenes
[22:10] – Mark talks about terpenes
[26:30] – Mark talks about some differences between Firefly and other vaporizers
[28:16] – How do you know when your flower is spent using a vaporizer
[30:22] – Mark talks about using concentrates in Firefly
[39:34] – Mark discusses the companion app that goes with Firefly
[41:30] – Mark’s personal Firefly settings
[51:17] – Mark answers some personal development questions
[56:32] – Firefly website and contact details

hope this is interesting

Sure was interesting, thanks a lot.

Really fascinating how Mark explains the power tuning in relation to time ie. that the feature adjusts how fast the hit unfolds.. Wow, I hadn't thought of it that way or saw anyone mention that.

He also mentions FF being designed for 8-12 second hits and talks about other cool stuff, he even brings up Alan Watts' The Book, one of my personal favorites, as inspiration - right on!

 

[sag]

For FF2 owners - how many hits do you get from a single "bowl"? I realize each hit is one long drag. Wondering how often you have to repack it thanks

I get 6 to 7 hits from a bowl. I stir after every 2 hits. I hit it as long as the light is glowing. I really like this thing. I use it almost exclusively. I have to be careful not to start a coughing jag.