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Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by Volcano South, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. fuby

    fuby Member

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    Thank you!
     
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  2. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    The "medic" units are identical to the rec units with exception of packaging and marking. The cert was granted based on materials safety and both are made with the exact same components.

    Yes, the digital does indeed have an auto-shutoff timer set at 30 minutes from last control input.

    The one thing mentioned above I'm not at all sure I agree with is that the Volcano needs 20 minutes to heat soak and become its most effective. I find it more like 10 minutes but we all may view "ready" differently.

    I run my Cano on max temp....446....and absolutely milk a bag or two. I also vape almost exclusively at night for pain and sedation and I want my meds fast and to the point. Cano is not the most miserly with your herb, but it does provide eye opening and consistent performance.
     
  3. fuby

    fuby Member

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    Thanks! Do you use your digital volcano multiple time at night? How many time is in between if so
     
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  4. Baron23

    Baron23 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I’m usually up and doing a session (with some vape or another) 2-3 time a night.
     
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  5. blackstone

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    While this is true for the Mighty and Mighty Medic, I believe the Volcano Medic has a maximum temperature of 210 degrees Celcius while the rec one goes up to 230.

    I don't know if the 20 degrees makes much odds but I always go up full for anything besides flower. But I find up to 210C fine for that use.

    I think it was the 23rd Baron that helped me choose my Volcano (digit) and I've gotten great use from it almost everyday since, thanks for that @Baron23 and all who helped me!

    Yes, pulsing the power or fan on and off, or adjusting the temperature by at least one button press.

    You could have a point, some heated parts have a lifespan which depends on the number of heat cycles. I think the heater would take many cycles like this with no issues.
    Just so you'll know, in the manual I think it says if you leave your Volcano alone to turn it off, and something like that it is less wasteful to re-heat it than to leave on, in terms of electricity I think they meant.

    The numbers show it's heated up in about 5 mins, maybe less? But the guys are right that it might benefit from a further period to get properly warmed up.
    It doesn't seem long to me though!
    Hope you are closer to choosing your new vape @fuby , good luck!
     
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  6. arb

    arb Semi shaved ape

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    The auto shut off also drove me insane resulting in a classic replacement...........Sunup to midnight daily.
     
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  7. Baron23

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    Ah, didn't know that....that's kind of strange, no?
     
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  8. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    Cool, I can kinda understand now. I normally blame myself for not paying attention more and just wait a little! Maybe it also helps me use less sometimes?!

    It is strange alright, I think I had an understanding of why before but cant think now!
    Maybe it was to streamline the two applications so somebody wouldn't point out a difference and possibly stall such an expensive process.
    There was much testing involved and figures generated but I think I read about that 210 degree figure in a couple of various studies, is it to avoid benzene or something?
    And perhaps the recreational Mighty may not have needed 230 degree max as it uses some conduction, where they had felt the convection rec Volcano did.
     
  9. MinnBobber

    MinnBobber Well-Known Member

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    Volcano vs Medic Volcano:
    Yes, the 210 C (410 F) max temp for Medic Volcano was to avoid (to a certain level) producing benzene/etc.
    IMO, this is a kind of a "red herring" issue. The amount of benzene produced by higher temp vaping is minuscule,
    compared to combusting a joint where that is 100X worse chems and no shown damage (due to off-setting positives of the combusted cannabis). Any benzene produced is also mixed with high temp cannabinoids/etc that are valuable additions (like CBC).

    Everyday life in our "petro-chem" world gives us much more benzene so I much prefer full temp vaping (like to 450/455F ).

    Note: I don't start at 450 F----start much much lower and temp step up, to finish at 450 F----also due to minimal stash.

    So Mighty, Crafty, Medic Volcano are maxed at 210 C/ 410 F.
    Plenty is slightly lower, like 392 F
     
  10. fuby

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    I made my desicion. Im going for the Classic Volcano. Thanks everyone!
     
  11. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Is it possible to decarboxilate cannabis using a Volcano?
    I mean, activating it. Not just vaporizing most of the cannabinoids.
    I heard that the decarboxylation temperature for thc is 157 C, so I tried having an XL bag at that temperature. Vapor was pretty non existant but weed was brown for the most part. I hate it with no noticeable effect as it’s pretty common to me with edibles.
     
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  12. The Beagle

    The Beagle Bubbles & Bags

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    After selling all the vape stuff I didn't use I just ordered a Volcano Classic for group use and to try convince my GF to stop smoking at home.
    I have a question: how long is the power cord? I couldn't find this specific on the S&B website or from the vendor I bought it from.
     
  13. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Mine is 1,78 meters long, but I have a digit.
     
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    TheMasterBlaster ____Non-Smoker____

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  15. fuby

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    Is it possible to change this "inner screen"? Or maybe it just one big screen? i was thinking a replacing it for a finer one. I hear some herb falls down.
     
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  16. Baron23

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    No...one, there really isn't a way to get flower down there unless you pour it it. It will not leak down to any significant extent through the chamber screens.

    And if it did, take out the foam air intake filter on the bottom and blow out the path with compressed air.

    Disassembly is not required nor, IMO, advised.
     
  17. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead High Standards

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    It would be possible but it might take a number of bags to complete unless you just let it fly without a bag.
     
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  18. SloJimFizz

    SloJimFizz Unknown Member

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    Unexpected new thread to join. Damn Black Friday deals. :myday:

    Quick question about Easy Valve Reducer. Can I just buy the reducer metal piece for $12 and the plastic filling chamber for $8.00 and be able to go back and forth between full load and reduced load, like I can with the Plenty. I do not have to buy the whole $62 chamber with reducer, correct?
     
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  19. arb

    arb Semi shaved ape

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    You got it right...........
     
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  20. fuby

    fuby Member

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    Thanks! Also the tip is great!

    byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
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  21. arthritisbites

    arthritisbites Well-Known Member

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    I have the reducer and after many experiments, I now never use it, even for very small amounts. Instead I put the herb in and cover it with a screen and then the liquid pad (I cut a slit halfway through the screen and overlap the edges a little so it makes a shallow cone that nicely cradles the liquid pad). I actually use this set up no matter how much herb I’m using, works every time.

    I know others like the reducer for use with the dosing capsules for concentrates, but I don’t like using the volcano with concentrates, just a personal preference.
     
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  22. fuby

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    Wow! today i tried my volcano for the first time!! So smooth and efficient. Compared to the volcano my Mighty is so harsh.

    random question: do you guys use different bags for different strains? i have the urge to do that. dont know if it makes sense.
     
  23. arthritisbites

    arthritisbites Well-Known Member

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    So glad you’re enjoying it! I do not use different bags and I don’t think it would really make a difference. The vapor that comes up against the bag sticks there, you’re not breathing it in. So any residue of other strains in the bag shouldn’t have too much of an effect.
     
  24. justcametomind

    justcametomind IT'S TIME!

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    Having a Volcano on all day doubled my electricity bills (just like the Evo). It happened for a few months after I bought it.
    Evo hits are weaker when the unit is cold, no doubt. Given the temp and weed, Volcano bags taste always the same for me. No difference if the green temp has been reached now or 20 minutes ago.
    I may be biased since i always vape at 230C, but I should notice as well poor yield or lack of flavor, which I don't.
    Other than vaping at 230C, I always use XL bags and I think that instead of leaving the Volcano on indefinitely the best thing to do is extract all the stuff in one session with a long bag. I realized I like better XL bags (easy valve) and that standard bags fail to extract all the stuff for me.
    Maybe what really should be avoided is re-heating weed for a second or third (weak) balloon.
    Maybe it's just me trying to save money!
     
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  25. arthritisbites

    arthritisbites Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I would guess the volcano added a few dollars to my electricity bill, but not enough for me to notice. I found a very big difference in vapor production with the preheating, but whether 10 minutes is good enough versus 20 minutes, no clue. I have the volcano on an automatic timer so it’s ready for me when I wake up ;)
     
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