I can definitely see where you're coming from on the heat thing, mine gets a little bit toasty as well. Nothing that isn't manageable, but like you said perhaps a little warmer than I was expecting. Still completely floored by the unit though and am consistently impressed by how effective it is.
Glad to read yet another great review/review update! I think you hit the nail on the head with the last paragraph in your post...The average product usually doesn't exceed the hype, let alone meet it, like the Cloud seems to be doing easily so far!I can definitely see where you're coming from on the heat thing, mine gets a little bit toasty as well. Nothing that isn't manageable, but like you said perhaps a little warmer than I was expecting. Still completely floored by the unit though and am consistently impressed by how effective it is.
So you're on it 
. Purpl3 Haz3 you could always post it on the last portion of your latest posts to keep everyone aware of the VXH crew 
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Also, the Cloud decreases in temperature as you move down the unit, closer to the base / air intake area. I had my unit on for ~40 minutes or so in the 12 o'clock position and even though the top of the unit near the glass joint was quite warm / almost hot, I was still able to comfortably hold the unit by the base and use it properly.
I feel sorry for you , but at least it will save some Clouds from being drawned. I am receiving mine tomorrow and will make sure NOT to share the Cloud with its HT with many of my guests. Thank you for sharing !
Well, I hold my EQ when I vape (I shove it in the downstem of my vape Cloud style) and it never gets "hot." It does get a little warm...As far as insulation in the EQ goes, there isn't much. I took mine apart a few weeks ago, and its mostly air space. I would say that the EQ has 'less heat' to keep in, than the Cloud does. Yes, they both reach the temps that they reach, but the Cloud holds it's temp extremely well, while the EQ doesn't. There is a glass tube going the whole length of the Cloud, that is at temp due to being surrounded by a heating element. The EQ on the other hand, has a small ceramic element, that sits inside of a glass tube, that is a few inches long.
the only time i see a red light is when i turn it on or the timer goes off and it starts flashing red and green. I use a 18" stemless and I have never had a problem when I pull real hard of going red
Enjoy friends!!!
Glad you liked the vid!As the cloud goes red, the EQ does as well...The little red light on the front (that flickers and flashes always) indicates the heater running to raise/maintain the temp. Yes, the temp display usually stays at temp, but after several hard hits, I find I can't get the same vape as I can after letting the glass get all nice and hot again. If anything, I think the EQ will be more likely to say its at temp, when it could be warmer. Whereas the cloud, will indicate when it could be warmer, much sooner. More sensors? Better placement? Idk. All I know, is even though my EQ's temp display doesn't drop, the quality of hits does after quick successive rips.
BC, Thank you for the video with that piece! Really anxious to get my email!
Glad you liked the vid!
Sometimes you see a red light on the cloud because someone's hand has inadvertently brushed the knob and then the red blinks for a half a tick until it goes back to the dialed in temp. The EQ's temp display will not change with more consecutive hitters (and the red light continuously blinks to show that the heater is maintaining the (approximate) displayed temp) I think Jackstraw62's statement above is correct. The blinking red to green only shows up when the shut off timer has engaged and you need to turn the unit back on to get back up to temp...
Time for some more testing!!
When I hit my EQ, especially in a sesh with other patients, the red light usually stays solid throughout the bigger hits. The EQ seems to need to heat a lot to keep itself at temp...The Cloud OTOH appears to stay at temp a lot better.
