only thing we've had tested was some outdoor blue dream that we vended to hhc from last year's harvest. the trim was 47% and the b nug run was 53.60% but looked identical, harbor at the time wasn't paying more for nug runs but that might have changed. This is just one comparison but the difference doesn't seem that high. the testing was done at lighthouse labs out of Clovis CA. Basically when your running nugs you have to grind them up and at that point isn't that almost the same as shake? I'm not offended at all and I appreciate the response
Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
When you grow your own medicine you control the process!
I use the Top Colas for Flower.
The nuggets make SHATTER!
However when I have excessive Colas they become SHATTER.
I made SHATTER because I have a process I follow. $60 - $90 around here at the dispensaries is out of control!
You have some nice strains!
GetToTheChoppa
Well-Known Member
Why run at 7.4volts if the user can only tap the power button?
Thanks for the tip. I feel like it has to be user error since my other carts work, but I have barely used the KISS so I'm a little lost. When I say 2-3 secs to see if it glows, that's a guess. I press the button long enough to see if anything happens then let go. I'm not sure if I will create another ticket, for some reason I feel like I've somehow burned the coils up so W9 shouldn't be stuck sending me new carts. I was curious if anyone else has had this happen to them.
Maybe I'll try that, I thought I could only use the 7.4v cart since that's the only type of batteries I have (two of the red 3.7v IMR). If I want to use the 3.7v KISS I also need to buy the single 3.7v battery too, correct?
masaki
Well-Known Member
3.7v kiss is probably going be your best bet for longevity. You can buy a 18650 which will probably be your cheapest bet or you can get a ss kit and run a single 18350 with 3.7v kiss.
I love the 3.7 ti kiss!! I feel like the new persei should come with a 18650 w/ 3.7v kiss or make it an option to choose between 3.7v or 7.4v. I feel like new persei owners are going give up on there units after buying 1 or 2 replacement kiss carts not knowing 7.4v kiss carts have been known to have a short life expectancy.. and plus the fact aw 18350 are recommended to power up attachments like the bender and hercules any ways, might as well force the consumer to buy them or again make it an option when buying 7.4 attachments. This would prevent alot of battery issues with first time hercules users.
Thats my point of view as a customer looking to buy a new persei. do you agree or disagree?
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Fi
BLONDE HONEYCOMB WAX
2.4 cart (Shorty, OPHOS, OMICRON)
SR74
BENDER with JC OC
Who said medicine needs to taste bad to be effective?
Finally somebody that's speaks sense!
BLONDE HONEYCOMB WAX
2.4 cart (Shorty, OPHOS, OMICRON)
SR74
BENDER with JC OC
Who said medicine needs to taste bad to be effective?
GetToTheChoppa
Well-Known Member
I would agree. Coming from a total newb and new customer i have not been pleased with my Percei purchase. The more i read the more i cant believe.
For example i bought a brand new Percei and Hercules74. But reading this forum i learn the batteries that come with the Percei wont even power the Herc? Well that blows. How is a new customer supposed to know this information? I feel like i just paid for 2 worthless batteries, that came inside my badass new vaporizer? Doesnt make me feel like my new vaporizer is that badass anymore. For a guy like me who is a total tripper im left feeling like i paid too much.
Then last night im reading about the 7.4 KISS cart burning up pretty quickly. I still dont get the need for 7.4v if you can only tap the button? Wouldnt it be better to hold down the button for 6 seconds and get a nice smooth rip then hold down for 2-3 seconds and let off before you destroy the $25 device?
I was checking out the instructions. When running at 7.4v what should the resistance be of the cartridge? My 7.4 KISS cart is measuring 2.4ohms. Shouldnt it be more closer to 5ohms?
For example i bought a brand new Percei and Hercules74. But reading this forum i learn the batteries that come with the Percei wont even power the Herc? Well that blows. How is a new customer supposed to know this information? I feel like i just paid for 2 worthless batteries, that came inside my badass new vaporizer? Doesnt make me feel like my new vaporizer is that badass anymore. For a guy like me who is a total tripper im left feeling like i paid too much.
Then last night im reading about the 7.4 KISS cart burning up pretty quickly. I still dont get the need for 7.4v if you can only tap the button? Wouldnt it be better to hold down the button for 6 seconds and get a nice smooth rip then hold down for 2-3 seconds and let off before you destroy the $25 device?
I was checking out the instructions. When running at 7.4v what should the resistance be of the cartridge? My 7.4 KISS cart is measuring 2.4ohms. Shouldnt it be more closer to 5ohms?
masaki
Well-Known Member
That's the new persei I was referring to.
. It really sucks that you are having such a miserable experience with a product that should be bringing you joy and relief.
The Persei needs to be considered as a base unit with many choices to cater to most any vaper's taste. If they put everything in the kit, the price point would be too high for most. The kit they sell now is a basic starter kit. It makes sense that other more powerful attachments may need better battery power. At least they don't scrap the model when something new comes out. Everything is backwards compatible. Better to buy a couple of batteries than a "newer, better unit" This forum was a valuable resource for me to make my decision on what to buy. I read a lot of stuff about a lot of vaper's and there are some real horror stories out there. W9 is on the cutting edge of a field that is still in its infancy.
As for the 7.4v KISS, I burned mine out pretty quickly too. Mine was user error for sure.( button was being pressed when I put the unit down.). I rebuilt it with 32ga NiChrome wire and a ceramic wick and it performs well now. (Less than $30 in parts and I will have MANY rebuilds with what I bought). I mostly use the 3.7 because they definitely last longer.
There is PLENTY of experience here on this forum and a lot of friendly people here willing to help a fellow vaper in need.
Caligula
Maximus
The batteries that come with the Persei will power the SR74 just fine. The issue is longevity. The Hercules carts are power hungry and will drain the stock batteries faster than some "upgraded" units. This isnt to say that the Hercules wont work equally as well with either set of batteries, its just that one will die out sooner.
As for the KISS carts, if you want to mash the button down for long periods at a time, get a 3.7v unit. If you want to vaporize an equal (or greater) amount of material in less than half the time, you use the 7.4v cart. Different tools for different purposes.
One of my cars gets single digit miles per gallon of I get on the throttle in any meaningful way. That being said, I don't take it to the store then bitch about how much fuel I just used and how quickly I got there. If that's a concern, I take the "slow" car.
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swanky
Funk Hand Specialist
i submitted a ticket and received a super fast response. It boils down to my error. Captain Obvious didn't hit me good enough. 5 clicks to unlock.
i'll be breaking her in slowly throughout the day
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
Your Persei top has the unlock feature? Is it an R or V series?
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I'm the biggest goof that owns a PERSEI!
When I first got my PERSEI I fried a 5.0 cart loaded with PURE GOLD.
Then I found out that I loaded the wrong concentrate because it damages the seals. Also I was using way to much power = (2 x 18350's)
Then this calm user ("OF") calls me to the side and say's start with 2.4 carts and a 18650 battery.
Success!
My legal medical grow is taking way longer (STRAIN).
So I'm having to buy my medication at present. (SUCKS)
I have 1 gram of really expensive top shelf wax.
I'm going back to 2.4 carts for now.
When I'm restocked on SHATTER the HERCULES SR74 is the ultimate experience.
I will be patient!
In the meantime the OMICROM, OPHOS and the SHORTY are pretty well able to provide the medication dosages as needed.
Don't give up!
There is a learning curve.
Find your sweet spot!
I like it all now!
iceman42593
Vapor Enthusiast
So I got my new toys on Wednesday last week, and have been in Nirvana since. (I ordered the Nibbler XL, some 3.7v TI KISS carts, and the core). The core + Hercules SR-71 + Nibbler XL is absolutely amazing! It has the best flavor, gigantic rips of pure milk, and yet is soooo smooth, nothing is better to vape your oils! Everyone should have this setup hah
as a side note:
What do you use to lube up the orings for using the Nibbler XL? I've been using water to make it easier to put on, but this obviously does not help when taking it off since the water dries up pretty quickly. What kind of lubricant should I be looking to use on the orings?
as a side note:
What do you use to lube up the orings for using the Nibbler XL? I've been using water to make it easier to put on, but this obviously does not help when taking it off since the water dries up pretty quickly. What kind of lubricant should I be looking to use on the orings?
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syrupy
Authorized Buyer
I think glycerin, propylene or vegetable (PG, VG). Some might use vaseline. I have a bottle of PG that's for e-cigs.
iceman42593
Vapor Enthusiast
thanks much! I'll have to take a trip to my local head shop n grab some quick
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I've been using a touch of coconut oil on my O rings, it's natural, seems to work fine for me.
Awesome, you're the first with a locking top so far. That I know of anyway...
Makes perfect sense to me. I probably should have spent more time reading this thread more closely so that I understood what I was getting before buying the Persei. Don't get me wrong, I love my Persei almost as much as my kids, and at least as much as my wife. But since this is my first entry into a vape of this class I could have been better suited getting an 'entry level' model like you suggest and build up from there with 7.4v batteries and more powerful carts.
I think I am burning out the two KISS carts I have used. Both have one of the wires broken like it was melted from holding the button too long. If holding the button for 2-3 secs to test a cart or for hits I wouldn't think would be too long even with the 7.4v batteries but clearly I'm burning them out. I like the SS and 3.7v cart as a better way to go for me. Had a 3.7v KISS with 3.7v battery been an option I would have choosen that in the first place. Maybe it is an option on different websites but the one I used to order mine only had the 7.4v, 5 ohm unit.
stock batteries will power the persei but they don't last long with herc. my advice is just try the unit. You obviously bought it without knowing anything about it.
LOL! Hard to take a quadruple poster seriously, but I actually did know something about it before I bought the Persei. Certainly not as much as I know now, the biggest problem for me is the learning curve. Hence my hesitation ordering additional cartridges or the herc if I can't even get a KISS cart to last more than 24 hours.