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The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by THC SCIENTIFIC, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Alevin

    Alevin Member

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    I have another question guys. Does a 5.0 cart at 7.4 have a similar hit efficiency to a 2.4 cart at 3.7. My question is: if you were to count all your 5 second hits would you get less from the 5.0 at 7.4 than the 2.4 at 3.7
     
  2. MaDsCiEnTiSt22

    MaDsCiEnTiSt22 Active Member

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    Ive been running co2 oils over pg because pg leaks and is overpriced.... I get 4 grams of pinapple co2 oil from sparc in sf for 140 compared to 60 to 70 for a gram of pg.... Co2 oil is the shiznit.... I wish I could make my own co2 oil but it seems too complicated....
     
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  3. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    No, not even close. 2.4 at 3.7 is like 5.7 Watts, 5 at 7.4 is 11 or so. Twice as much. The problematic for many 1.5 at 3.7 is actually less power at about nine and guys have trouble keeping it between the ditches.

    My advice remains to stick with 2.4 at 3.7 until you have it nailed down.

    CO2 oils are a favorite with me as well, although they often aren't the most potent in the case, IMO they make up for it in spades. Another thing I like is the CO2 will all boil off before vapor happens and since I breathe out something like 3% CO2 with every exhale I make all day long I'm not as concerned about it as a solvent than the other options. Because of the way it's made (captured from baking limestone to make Portland Cement or from fermentation in brewing or baking) it's essentially pure when it's put in the extraction rig (unlike other solvents).

    The downside, as you point out, is it's expensive and dangerous.......like some of the women I've known over the years......

    OF
     
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  4. DubCRider

    DubCRider Well-Known Member

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    I can make your wish come true if you can provide the input material, PM me if interested.
     
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  5. GR

    GR Well-Known Member

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    OF already gave you the details of the power let me give you some data of oil burned. With 7.4v and a 5ohm cart on average I use .05g for every 5 big hits, that is .1g for very 10 hits and 100hits per gram. A 2..4 ohm cart at 3.7v is going to give hundreds of hits.

    Even with lots of experience the 5ohms are tricky to run, it only takes a big hit to get the cart very hot, do to many of those back to back and you get center tube clogs or worse, burn your oil. Because it burns through oil so quick it is very easy to run the cart low which then seems to clog the wick with residue and decrease the performance of the cart. I find for best performance I can only put about a 1-2g through a 5ohm before I toss them out.
     
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  6. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I have just found this new Collective with the best CO2 Honey OIL that comes in a 1/2 gram syringe.
    INDICAS - Triple Purple Berry, 007 OG - Dreamlandia
    SATIVAS - Sour Diesel - Creativity
    HYBRIDS - Pineapple Express - relax and just think
    The www.delta9vape.com site has the devices to medicate with this kind of medicine.
    Tonight I topped off a cart of Brittle Wax with some 007 OG Honey Oil 1/2 gram.
    The cart was a 2.4V. Need to get another 5 Pack of carts in the next few weeks.
    No Headaches! This new oil goes a long way. I have had no clogged carts or leaks.

    I don't look for vapor clouds in general however from the 007 OG thick white clouds and a creamy taste.The effect is very complete. Cloud - Creme - Dream!
     
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  7. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    bender update
    I just added some earl to my herb in the bender. Took earl on pin and herb and wiped pin off with herb. Added herb to bender and wow.... very nice flavor effects etc.... Was puting in about two dabs worth to a bowl.... Just made it flavor enhanced and no stick on glass etc.....
    So give it a try.........:rockon:
     
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  8. OF

    OF Well-Known Member

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    Very cool. So can we try to put some numbers on this? Is it like two .1 gram dabs in a 3/4 gram bowl? That should do the job you'd think..... And no sticking where it hit the glass, even near the top of the stem?

    Pretty impressive.

    TIA

    OF
     
  9. kittyboy

    kittyboy Well-Known Member

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    bowl was filled 3/4 up stem and dab would been .1 or less. wanted to try small amount... what u would use on swing vape for a couple of hits. No sticky anywhere...... but again i took herb and just pulled needle with earl thru vs dropping down into bender. just got a better flavor and better effect then when plain.

    :party:
     
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  10. GR

    GR Well-Known Member

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    I have found if you take your ground flower and mix a drop or two or more, then let it sit to soak up the oil. I don't have a Bender but it works very well in my DBV (it works well with ABV if you don't want to use or test on flower) and in combustion joints , I admit I will smoke a joint if I mix it with .3g of oil. The Flower or the ABV acts like a candle wick for the oil to vape off of.

    Edit: in the DBV using the ABV mixed with oil lets you use hotter temps without the ABV burning, a lot of stirring or shaking in the Bender helps to keep exposing fresh oil soaked pieces for a flavor burst and prevents any combustion or of tastes from over vaped flower.
     
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  11. Toastface_Killah

    Toastface_Killah Well-Known Member

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    So I am looking to buy a nice portable vape, as I am not enjoying having to carry a car AC converter with me everywhere to use my Silver Surfer or using a TI pad and torch in the car. For the longest time I was originally set on the Arizer Solo for a long time; however, seeing as how I recently got into making my own BHO the idea of the pen style vapes is appealing to me, and the Persei seems to fit the niche of both oil and herbs, which i'd switch up between depending on my current mood. My only concern is that I have not seen much about in this thread or on the internet about the ability of the Persei to connect to a water pipe, where as the solos mouthpiece fits right into a 14mm bowl slot. I almost exclusively vape through water now, and want something that will easily connect and hook up to water pipes (I really enjoy the idea of being able to carry a portable vape with me and if a friend has a nice glass water piece, I can easily pair it with my vape and blow peoples minds).

    The issue of the Perseis compatibility with glass pieces seems to be my only concern as the Persei seems to be a very high quality vape for both oils and herbs, which is exactly what I need (where as I have read mixed reviews of the Arizer Solos capability of oil vaping, even though its an excellent plant vape); so yah, can anyone give any input on this matter?
     
  12. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I love the SILVER SURFER. Nice vaporizer for flowers.
    I use the SOLO's for flowers.
    My PERSEI's for concentrates.

    I like having the best of both worlds.
    The BENDER is on my list as well as the BUBBLER!
    [​IMG]
     
  13. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    I hook my persei up to my bong with PV's adapter.
     
  14. MaDsCiEnTiSt22

    MaDsCiEnTiSt22 Active Member

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    I sent you a message... im in the dark on how to do the c02 stuff..... show me the light.....
     
  15. Toastface_Killah

    Toastface_Killah Well-Known Member

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    Forgive my ignorance, but what is this adapter you speak of?
     
  16. Darb

    Darb Well-Known Member

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    Can this extraction be done at home?
     
  17. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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  18. OB

    OB Well-Known Member

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    I use the same brand of oil. Its at a few collectives in san diego. That 007 is great. I have been able to fix leaks by soaking as much oil up with a shaved piece of popcicle stick moist with iso. It always leaks again but the fix lasts if I keep carts in the fridge at night.
     
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  19. ataxian

    ataxian California

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    I think it might be a new trend?
    CO2 Honey Oil is becoming real popular.
     
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  20. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    From what I heard from Cali is that alot of people are calling their BHO CO2 for legal purposes. I may be wrong though
     
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  21. GR

    GR Well-Known Member

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    Something about not being able to use solvents. shhh, don't let them know that water is a solvent or CA folks will have to say goodbye to ice water hash.
     
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  22. MaDsCiEnTiSt22

    MaDsCiEnTiSt22 Active Member

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    For one bho is not against the law..... butane is used to extract most of the oils and waxes that are made other than the iso stuff and co2 qnd pg.... dont post false info if you dont have a clue what you are talking about.... when you use butane to make oils or wax just try to use 5x or 7x.... idk where some people obtain there info but I just share info from years of being a patient and meeting some knowledgeable people.... if its not ice extracted or cheap kief you get from a dispensary, the hash Or wax has been more than likely extracted with butane....
     
  23. tharealmclovin

    tharealmclovin Well-Known Member

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    if you notice the "from what I heard" I never stated it as fact. Im not in Cali. Just what I heard. And dont forget the "I may be wrong" part I said
     
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  24. OB

    OB Well-Known Member

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  25. Krazzykid

    Krazzykid Well-Known Member

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    Actually read some of the law sometime and you may just be surprised! It is illegal under California law to produce concentrates with solvents such as butane or iso, etc. It is however not illegal to sell the concentrates once they are made(this is how the clubs get away with it). Producing the hash oil with butane and the like falls under the manufacturing of drugs category.

    It is not illegal to use water or CO2 to produce hash and this is why many clubs will list butane made hash as being CO2 hash. That is why therealmclovin was saying it may be butane hash even though it says CO2.
    Prop 215 only protects the possession and sale of hash oil, the process to make it is still very much illegal under California state and federal law!!! If you don't believe me a couple simple google searches will turn up many articles discussing this fact.

    So please don't talk down to people when YOU don't have a clue what you are talking about!

    Edit: By the way it isn't just California, to the best of my knowledge I think pretty much every state has a law against producing drugs. And don't kid yourself, if you get caught in the act of making hash oil you are producing drugs! It is what is referred to as a grey area, but is very much illegal.
     

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