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strongest strain

Discussion in 'Vaporizables' started by Debo175, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. seaofgreens

    seaofgreens My Mind Is Free

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    Depends what you are looking for.
    For instance, supposedly you will tend to get more potent phenotypes in this order from the Strawberry family:
    Strawberry fields<Strawberry Cough<Strawberry Coffin (Cough is clone only I think though, so that kind of muddles this example, but still!!!)

    This would be an example of strongest genetic potential so far brought out in a particular trait. In this case, the strawberry terpene profile. (Maybe there are even better strains in development, I have no idea.)

    Is this an indicator, that if you went out and bought some Strawberry Coffin cuts or seeds and grew them out, that for sure, without a doubt, you would be ending up with some fire? No, of course not. But when the plants are brought to their full potential, you will tend to get overall strain profiles.

    This would also be why strain reviews are somewhat subjective nonsense, but also very similar to how a sommelier would sample and review the grape profile from a bottle of wine.

    To really echo what everyone else has been saying. As time goes on, I would guess that for at least a niche population, the terpene profile and overall cannabinoid combination is where the future lies.

    Will there be a strongest example of each favored profile? My guess is that each year this will change, but yes, I believe it is possible to extrapolate a "strongest" strain (best strain profile might be a better name,) when judging by individual characteristics.

    Could you broaden that into simply one overall best, or even just best indica/sativa/hybrid without devolving mostly into pointless subjectivity?

    No.
     
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  2. EverythingsHazy

    EverythingsHazy Well-Known Member

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    Tbh, strain naming is kind of ridiculous and a crapshoot these days. Until breeders start stabilizing their strains at least past f5-f7, you will get different phenotypes which is pretty dumb, imo. Other plant growing communities are very technical with the terms "strain" "cultivar" etc, and stabilization specification.

    The fact that different breeders claim to both have a strain with the same name, but used different starting parents, and possibly even different strains altogether to make it, is insane.
     
  3. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    @EverythingsHazy, this is so true. When choosing a strain now you really have to investigate the actual genetics, not just go on name, to get exactly what you want.

    Amnesia haze is a prime example. There are many different genetic make ups that people are all calling amnesia haze.
     
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  4. h3rbalist

    h3rbalist I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too

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    I have just sourced some imported Amnesia Lemon Haze, I'm lucky and know a professional dope dealer.

    I have been spoilt as of late with strains like Jack-Flash, Blueberry, Critical Kush, Master Kush, OG Kush and most recently the Lemon Ami Haze.

    As great as these have all been I am yet to lay my hands on anything that looks as good as this Alaskan Thunderfuck. (which I posted earlier, has anyone on FC ever come across this strain?)
     
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  5. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    I have seen Matanuska Thunderfuck and picked some up a week ago. I don't always see it but it's harvest time in the Pacific NW and I've been seeing a great selection. It's one of the best strains around. I'm hoarding it, I have a few grams left. There are two strains that have similar names originating from Alaska.
     
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  6. strictly vapor

    strictly vapor Well-Known Member

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    There's obviously many awesome strains. I know it isn't the highest thc content, but for me my favorite and most potent, flavorfull strain I've had in 10 years on the job is Rockstar. I've had plenty of rockstar that wasn't that great, but the few times I was able to get the AAAA BC grown rockstar it was the strongest most satisfying knockout indica I've had - and that's a bold statement!
     
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  7. ginolicious

    ginolicious Well-Known Member

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    I use to really love Mazar. And you do not hear much of the strain anymore let alone see it floating around.
     
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  8. Winegums

    Winegums Sticky and chewy Accessory Maker

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    I know what you're talking about. Same goes for some of the BC grown OG kush.
     
  9. CarolKing

    CarolKing Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur

    Now that cannabis is labeled for THC levels it's all over the map. It depends on the plant itself. I have the same strain, same company name and different THC levels. Do you mean generally the strongest strains? I have a Grape Ape from Artizan one package says 23% THC and the other exact strain and company name at 19% THC also just .01% CBD.

    I read online about different strains and here on FC. Leafly is a good resource. I really wonder about the accuracy of the labeling? I would like to see more info how they get their numbers.
    That would be a whole new thread.
    I bet Mr Science Guy @t-dub knows.
    Edit
    I posted some info about a test kit over in the new gadgets section in the lounge.
     
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  10. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of the comments in this (admittedly quite old) thread seem to conflate THC % with potency of flowers. However, my experiences with high terpene lower THC containing extracts reliably informs me that the stuff that rings my bell most has less THC and more of the other actives! Concentrates with high THC and lower terps (absolute shatters etc) do not come close in psychoactivity. Consider also that when you have high THC, you might also have minor cannabinoids that take away from the perceived psychoactivity (CBD and THCV are examples). High THC does not necessarily mean high psychoactivity.

    So a strain that gets the most THCA/THC in the flower is not necessarily going to be the strongest in terms of psychoactivity. When I dabbed straight THC without anything else a few times, I found the 'high' boring and directionless. It felt like a lot was missing from the usual cannabis effect. When I dab whole resin heads whose membranes have not been ruptured, or hit flower in one of my flower vapes, I get much more 'high' with much less percentage of THC.

    This needs to be understood by all newcomers and old-timers alike. THC percentages do not equal potency.
     
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  11. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead Beware of Pizza

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    This was my experience as well. Straight hype.
     
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  12. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    It is just the typical hasty appropriation of scientific concepts in the cannabis community. The same problem causes us to get so much inaccurate reporting about science in the media. It is much easier to broadly take claims from a scientific source as given and start telling everyone about the 'science' one knows rather than carefully understanding the qualifying language and making sure to first understand all of what was written.

    It seems like ever since Mechoulam discovered THC, stoners have been talking about THC as if their flowers only release THC when they smoke them lol

    Sooner the conflation of cannabis psychoactivity with THC percentage ends, the better :)
     
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  13. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead Beware of Pizza

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    They don't want anyone to take the time to understand the language, they prefer to use marketing-science, using "science" as a means of trust, an endorsement (like a product recommendation from your best friend) rather than proper understanding of the data.

    Also, I think edibles do a good job of demonstrating psychoactivity beyond THC levels; granted it gets converted, but still.
     
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  14. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    I think edibles are another discussion entirely to be fair lol, Delta 11 THC through the gut is not comparable to Delta 9 THC being vaporized.

    The irony of the above is that science only gets that kind of credibility if we take the time to communicate it accurately. Nothing hurts the perception of credibility of a scientific concept like conflicting versions of that concept from different sources (not that this has any bearing on the actual validity of claims - but look at the last election and tell me that perceptions can't take on a life of their own and change the world - sadly we have to take perception into account and not just the merit of ideas)! As such, it is important to make sure we understand scientific ideas before trying to share them!
     
  15. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead Beware of Pizza

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    I don't think the conversion makes it incomparable at all. It's all cannabis; why not compare it? Different, sure, but more in common than they don't. The fact it starts as delta 9 from the same source is all the more reason to compare it, IMO. The same reason we compare vaporization to smoking.
     
  16. CharSadehBeast

    CharSadehBeast Well-Known Member

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    White widow with AK47 second

    I've been told Dr Kevorkian is the strongest strain if you've been lucky enough to find the real deal
     
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