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Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by darkrom, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. mc

    mc Member

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    If your plates ever touch during a press you are doing something wrong. All the pressure is on the puck itself since that's the only thing touching the plates. So you need to account for the end squish puck size to determine how much pressure you actually applied during the extraction.

    You have two points that overlap. First, when it's a bigger and harder pressed puck, it's harder to get the resin to start flowing through it. So you have to press harder and longer. So We don't pre-press, we use bottle-tech. Or gift tech. The verticla filter style NugSmasher shows on their youtube.
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    SO this also factors in why you get more with smaller amounts, because it's less to push the resin out of but this is diminision returns. It's a very small amount you'd gain pushing 448 1 gram presses vs 16 or 32 larger ones. And also, yes, calculators suck when doing small amounts.. which doesn't help making proper strain adjustments. It's better to hit 10g-14g at a time in my exp.
     
  2. tepictoton

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    Bottle tech seems nice, but I am really trying to prevent filters from ripping, and only way I found to prevent that is to do a pre-pressing.

    Maybe I should pre-press with less pressure, just enough so the filter does not expand or rip apart...

    Thx for sharing these tips and tricks
     
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  3. JCat

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    Here's a pic of a squish of 2g of Sour OG (Ruxton) from Broken Coast. Got 0.51g back! Not bad at all! 0.44 after first squish, 0.5 after second, and 3rd got a measly extra 0.01 :lol: (so answers my question about how many squishes it's worth doing if squishing 2g. Two. And that will get me a 25% return from this strain give or take. Very happy with that as it makes rosin relatively affordable :)

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  4. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member

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    Sorry about back-to-back posts, but alas, my time limit to edit has elapsed :lol:

    Anyways ... just a quick question for you concentrate pros ... one of the biggest problems I have is transferring the concentrate from the parchment into my containers ... it always gets glued to my dabber! ... I'll pick it up touching just by a pin needle, and in my efforts to get it off in the silicone container I inevitably end up with it good and glued to my dabber :doh:
     
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  5. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    Use parchment to squeeze the rosin off the dabber then put it in the fridge or freezer for a few minutes. At this point it should be less sticky, you can then transfer to the silicone container, you shouldn't have to touch the rosin at all.
     
  6. JCat

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    So just transfer direct from the parchment to the silicone container (and avoid the dabber as a transfer tool)? ... yeah ... seems like a good plan just have to make sure what I gather on the parchment is gathered smaller than the container :)
     
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  7. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    yeah use the parchment to mold the rosin blob with your fingers while it cools down. Cold oil should release from the parchment assuming it doesn't have so much terps it never really freezes =)
     
  8. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    I got my DHgate plates in 3 business days, ordered on Saturday, shipped out from hong kong the next day and had it wednesday. F'n A, FAST!

    Here's my setup now, haven't squished anything yet. I think I need a larger ram as the opening in the top of the plate is 2 1/4" inner diameter, and my jack ram is 1" outer diameter. Looking to be about $335 total for this setup (got the press $25 off from harbor freight)

    Gonna do a squish tonight, right now I'm just preheating the plates and gonna figure out how off they are from the controller.

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  9. shredder

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    Except for the smaller ram and jack, and the top of the stand, (mines welded) it looks a lot like my 20 ton HF set up. I wonder if HF would sell just the 20 t ram?

    So far a great price. Are the plates aluminum?
     
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  10. psychonaut

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    Yes 6061 Aluminum. Def great price! I see there are some USA rosin vendors who are starting to creep up on this price, so I dunno how long this setup will be a steal. I've been looking for the 20T ram jack plate but no lock so far, you almost need to buy a whole different setup. I was hoping just to find a 2" steel cylinder with a 1" ID hole to fit in, otherwise I think it'll still work fine a it is.
     
  11. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    First squeeze, plates were roughly 220F, 1gr whole nug, pressed once for 60 seconds, then folded up the puck a couple times squished once more for 60 seconds. 22% yield. Jack Skellington. The puck looked really parched afterwards.

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  12. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Nice to see you up and running! ;)
    The Flowerpots gonna love those yields! :D
     
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  13. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    Hell yeah I am so stoked, I havent even tried it yet, I am gonna do a double decker in the FP with both flower and rosin like you been doing with that super lemon haze. Flavor should be out of this world!

    I had a boo-boo when I was getting everything setup, I got too excited and the plates slipped and hit the floor, not from far but enough to put a little ding in both plates =( It seems to still be flush so perhaps no harm. I contacted the seller and it looks like replacement plates are $75. Not bad!

    Here's a pic of the plates, damage was on that left front corner =/

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  14. JCat

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    It wouldn't warp the whole plates ... they are too thick for that (1.25" ?). If the ding has it bending up then you would need to file or sand it away ... if you just do the corner you would lose those couple square millimeters of surface area but otherwise no damage. You could otherwise lap the entire surface of the plates as well; to do that, you could use any flat surface such as a nice tablesaw table or something, and stick some sandpaper of ever finer grades until it's nice and polished. First start rough to take more off and flatten, then go to finer and finer.
     
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  15. NewVape710

    NewVape710 Seeking Higher Ground Manufacturer

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    That's a nice looking press setup.
     
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  16. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    so regarding that dent. as long as the dent does not angle inwards as to keep the plates separated then there is no foul on that. the damage is minimal. be super careful not to scratch your plates face sides. you want to keep that surface as pristine as possible.

    if you were to have a lip that was separating the faces from closing. you would simply have to file the raised bit down. it's a corner so the area is less important.

    pumped to hear more about your results as you keep pressin!

    also, how do you know what pressure you're at with no guage to tell you? don't you risk overloading the bottlejack? all the setups i've seen use the type with a pressure guage.
     
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  17. JCat

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    :lol: ... I already said that! (ie. the ding) ... you "guess" with no gauge ... I'm getting a pretty good feel for it ... 2 presses and I get 25% yields ... usually around 20-22% on first press.
     
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  18. weedemon

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    right on. that sounds about right. i would keep in that zone then.

    too much pressure makes gross greenish rosin.
     
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  19. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    2nd press attempt almost a gram of LSD (Mazar x Skunk #1) flower, 26% yield, 220F plates for 60 seconds.

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  20. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Great yield!
     
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  21. psychonaut

    psychonaut High as fuck

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    For sure! I'm sold on this tek in every way.
     
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  22. nathan7

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    Interesting, maybe it's waxes that are normally removed in processing BHO.
     
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  23. shredder

    shredder Well-Known Member

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    I think your right. I've winterized rosin for cannacaps and filtered out a lot of wax. Especially when I've run iso through previously pressed pucks.

    While I haven't winterized rosin made with smaller micron size bags, I think they would filter more wax than bigger micron sized bags.

    I believe better filtering could help with keeping pen type vapes cleaner longer as well.
     
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  24. PPN

    PPN Fleurs&Vapeur

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    Yep, I noticed this issue, rosin is a lot "dirtier" than my bho extraction and is not the best for vape pens, especially for coil design or donuts. Just got the Trinity tank and hope to be able to use it with rosin if really totally cleanable (still not done the first cleaning).

    Still not tested rosin with my Hercule... need some more replacement ti coils in case...

    Rosin taste the best with a good enail setup although I rarely used mine lately.... need time to squish some buds of my new stash!
     
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  25. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH Staff Member

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    Too many plant waxes in the rosin and you're gonna gum the hell out of the coils using it. I think if you wanted to do rosin in it you'd ideally want to use rosin made from bubble hash (or regular hash) instead of flower rosin.
     
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