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Pen Vape for Concentrates...?

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Harperrn, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    I'm using the same, thick budder stuff...they do not work well with shatter though, need to almost costantly heat it up with torch again...for thick budder they do seem to be my prefered carts
  2. kingofnull

    kingofnull ace

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    Seems like they removed the DART from the site. I was in your same situation about a week ago when the DART suddenly re-appeared, so it may be worth checking again.

    RE: AVA - sideloader? I thought it was a drip tip? In any case yes, the DART will work with a side feed atty.

    You could always go with Omi carts, but that TV video about ^^^ shows pretty much the same materials in those carts.
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    Gonzo Slightly Stoopid

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  4. NewVape

    NewVape Got Glass?

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    Just ordered a ego c twist starter kit. I'm going to pair it with my Dart LV which I've never really liked. Maybe this will turn that around. I love my Omni but I need something that looks more ecig like.
  5. Harperrn

    Harperrn Member

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    correct me if im wrong but I believe they are all side-loaders except the dart and the higher voltage bottom-loader.

    and if you notice in that video, when he loads the dart into the sideloader it leaves the window open becase the dart is essentially replacing the part on the sideloader ava that twists to cover the window.

    if anyone can find me a link to a webstore with an ava cart that has no window and has a removable top to fit the dart in please let me know?

    ill give them a call tomorrow, but it looks to me like thats a dart, a converter piece and a revolution for $85 correct? dont really want to have to buy the revolution since the more e-cig looking ego-c twist is only $25. well if i cant find a way to get just the dart itself i might end up going with both the dart/revo combo and the ego-c twist because altogether its the same price (110) as an ultralie with the sideloader on thermovape.com

    still crossing my fingers on spending >$70
    Thanks!
  6. Quetzalcoatl

    Quetzalcoatl i i i

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    You're wrong, the AVA is a drip-tip style atomizer. It wouldn't make sense at all for it to be a side-loader if you need to drip PG/VG into it for the nicotine juice to vaporize. It's just an opened tube with a drip tip so you can add drops through it.
  7. Harperrn

    Harperrn Member

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    nice! ive never been so happy to be wrong about something! haha

    so the only place i can find this on is
    http://www.dragonflyecigs.com/store/apex-vapor-apex-vapor-made-atomizer-p-403.html
    so if i purchase an ava standard resistance side feeder option then there will not be a hole in the side of the atomizer?

    and then i would purchase a T1 revolutions dart loader from thermovape, do i also need a drip-tip or is it included with either purchase?
    http://thermovape.force.com/IdaProductDetail?id=01t50000001qlFaAAI

    that setup should be exactly like the dart but be able to handle the extra volts from the ego-c twist, have i finally found my solution?
  8. Puffers

    Puffers Well-Known Member

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    That TV product you referenced just adds moisture to your vapor. Hot vapor passes by the wet ceramic in the chamber, conditioning and cooling it on the way out.
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  10. kingofnull

    kingofnull ace

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  11. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    You guys got me all excited over the dart and now it's gone again. *sigh*
  12. Harperrn

    Harperrn Member

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    well i was just informed that you can purchase the ava atomizer, delrin mouthpiece, and the individual dart piece from thermovape and construct the dart yourself

    and i already bought the ego-c twist so ill let you guys know how they work out together

    thanks again for all the help, i hope i found the perfect combo
  13. Hoops

    Hoops Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what's wrong with me, but I can't find what you are talking about. Can you link me to the TV parts page? I keep going to the Thermovape site, but I don't see any the AVA's?
  14. Harperrn

    Harperrn Member

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    no sweat, it took me a while too...hence the 2 page thread lol
    and thermovape barely has anything on their sight now that they are only offering the cera

    heres the dart piece from thermovape:
    http://thermovape.force.com/IdaProductDetail?id=01t50000001qlHLAAY

    and heres the only ava atomizer i found:
    http://www.dragonflyecigs.com/store/apex-vapor-apex-vapor-made-atomizer-p-403.html

    it says that the atomizer comes with a drip-tip so im assuming no other mouthpiece would be necessary but im going to call into dragonfly later today and find out if that is true, and to make sure that the SR side-feeder option on their site doesn't have a window.

    ill post back once i hear back from them
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  15. kingofnull

    kingofnull ace

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    I see now why you were confused about the AVA - dragonfly does list it as a side feeder. I'm interested to hear the results of your conversation.
  16. jhpfunk

    jhpfunk Well-Known Member

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    If I can maybe ask a side, similar question to the initial poster. I'm looking for a similar device that's better for hash. Battery life, small pen size, and taste are important. I have a buddy that bought the Trippy Stix, but I saw a video on Youtube where a young fellow said that similar devices can be purchased for much less. I posted on a different forum, so if you read both posts, many apologies.
  17. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i know this is a little late but what about the 710 pen with it's new funnel cart?? i was thinking about this pen myself and would love to know if others have used it
  18. jhpfunk

    jhpfunk Well-Known Member

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    The 710 pen mini does sound interesting. Love to know if it's good with hash.
  19. Gonzo

    Gonzo Slightly Stoopid

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    My neighbor has a 710 pen, and while it does give off some big hits the taste is a little off IMO. He also has burnt out three carts in about the last three months.

    I personally love my Dart and the flavor is much better IMO compared to the 710 Pen.
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  20. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    i just bought a LV DART to try on my EGO-C Upgraded battery. i don't have any wax or anything right now but i was thinking that i may have QWISO more than i would have wax. i thought someone said the DART was not good for QWISO cause it's unstable (runny). so i was thinking the "funnel" system in the 710 cart would be better for runny oils and still cheap enough $20.00 for a 710 cart, 710 shell and 710 top (if it works with my EGO-C battery that is)
  21. Gonzo

    Gonzo Slightly Stoopid

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    I throw everything from QWISO to Supermelts in mine and it's still going fine.
  22. mmenzie

    mmenzie My friends call me "Menz"

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    how do you load QWISO into your dart?? mine is totally unused and i was curious on what to do as i will be making some soon. the DART's pin does not reach the heating element when inserted into the cart so i was curious as to the process
  23. Gonzo

    Gonzo Slightly Stoopid

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    I personally use a wood toothpick for loading most of the time. QWISO can be a pain to load. Try working it into a ball maybe and dropping on the center. I rarely use QWISO so someone with more experience may chime in.
  24. jhpfunk

    jhpfunk Well-Known Member

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    It seems like I'm out of luck with my intentions for a stealth hash vape. My thoughts are now turning to wax and taking that with me on my trip. I spoke to someone at Gotvape and they recommended the Cloud for waxes. I don't see much info on it. I have a feeling that some of the lager models taste/perform better, but I really want stealth...and maybe lengthy charge, ez clean etc.
  25. Quetzalcoatl

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    I wouldn't do QWISO in the DART myself. I wouldn't do it in someone else's cart, either. I've only ran quality stuff through my DART and it's performed spectacularly. Wax, budder, honeycomb, shatter, all good in there. Since I've only got one and I really really don't want to mess it up, I'll run dispensary-quality stuff through it only. I don't wanna put her in any compromising situations :wave:

    If you can wait and have the cash to spend (~$300), you can get the ThermoVape Cera Essential Oils vaporizer. The thing is made with medical-grade ceramic, all-ceramic vapor path, and gives hits like crazy. The price is high compared to other "pen-vapes" but the quality above and beyond, IMO.

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