The problem is that I’m in Oregon, and have seen no less than 3 different pod variations depending on the run and who’s doing it. They definitely went into this knowing that a lot of people’s end game would be refilling, and they built a shitload of fences around it. I would say it would make more sense for them to just release refillable versions of the Era/Juul(they’re the same damn thing with the metal cut differently so that they don’t accommodate one another’s pods,) but in Pax’s case, it doesn’t. They themselves are not in the cannabis or nicotine industries. They’re an electronics manufacturer. So they make their money by contracting who they sell the pods to and taking a cut of sales. I live in a city with over 60 retail cannabis outlets within driving distance, and as of right now, there are 5 places that sell Era Pods, and 3 that were but dropped them. Depending on the kind of store you’re running, they have the potential to bring a lot of people in. But they aren’t catching on as quickly here as I think Pax might like. There are over 50 companies selling .510 cartridges, and yeah there are some spendy ones, but aside from a few ridiculous examples, people really don’t like paying more than about $70/g. Because the stores are filled with high quality wax not in a pod for $15-20/g(after tax.) I can spend all afternoon going on and on about how I feel that being able to take the temp down to 520(and get good hits at 550-580) makes the half gram pods last as long as most other companies 1g .510 cartridges, but they’re still a hard sell most of the time. Anyway, back to refilling. You pretty much have to wait until a video comes out where they’re using a pod you know you have. I highly doubt that they have 3+ different designs per state, but the different branding and packaging used by the various companies doing the runs can complicate the hell out of things. As far as the Rubi is concerned, I’ve seen it, and a few other competitors at this point as well. I suppose when someone puts together a worthy pod using one, we’ll see a thread. I have no doubt that someone has tried at this point.