Cool! Do you know what pg/vg ratio your eliquid is? Is everything staying mixed for you? Seeing any separation after time?
So they say ...............
1ml of limonene to 1 gram of extract? You might die. Try 1-3 drop of limonene per gram of extract.
No I actually mean you could get incredibly sick with a 1:1 blend of extract to Limonene. Do your research before you poison yourself. Terpenes are nothing to play around with .............. and you are very, very wrong in your assumption comparing Limonene to PG/VG. I have no idea where you could come up with that statement.
That makes way more sense. The 1:1 is what got everyone all "dude, don't vape that!", lol.
Your statement above noting your desire to mix 1ml to 1 gram which is basically a 1:1 ratio is what I was referring to.. hence the alarm bells went off.
(mind ramble here)
Even 3 drops of limonene to a half gram of concentrate is overdoing it compared to what's actually in cannabis. That would be closer to 15% than 5%, and 5% isn't even plant accurate. We've thrown out a relatively arbitrary figure of 5% addback for terpenes previously in discussions in this thread when talking about re-introducing terpenes to a mix, but that was just a generalized figure (starting point). If you look at strain data, and this is looking at all terpenes combined instead of looking at just one terpene, they usually only combine to constitute around 3%. So we're talking even smaller numbers for individual terpenes. Even high limonene strains like Lemon Haze or Durban, have only around 1% limonene. Also, if you look at Extract Consultants terpene sampler kit page, it lists some recipes and the final suggested add back on all of them is 3% or under. I assume the Holy Terp products follow similar recipes and use these ingredients and ratios to add back to their "proprietary blend" base.
So, regardless if adding excessive limonene (compared to naturally occurring ratios, plus alcohol) instead of pg/vg/peg "works", using only one terpene at a much higher % than all combined terpenes usually occur in cannabis is no more "natural" than using pg/vg/peg. It's an attractive pursuit to try to use terpenes to dissolve concentrates for pens instead of any pg/vg/peg, but terpenes are ultimately caustic so it will not be less irritating, less harmful, or more natural at all once you use enough to liquefy the concentrate. These compounds (pg/vg/peg) exist for applications like this, to be used as carriers, they are not worse for you than terpene solvents for this purpose. All of the premixed carts (as well as CC) have some sort of filler that isn't being labeled, it can't be just terpenes, they don't fill that volume.
That's where my head is at with all this. I don't claim to be an expert and apologize if I sound like I'm arguing. I'm not. I've been through this exact same loop in my head since I started checking this stuff out.
And even with that $700 homogenizer ..... the mixture still separates after a short period of time
Excellent summation ..............and 100% correct IMO(mind ramble here)
Even 3 drops of limonene to a half gram of concentrate is overdoing it compared to what's actually in cannabis. That would be closer to 15% than 5%, and 5% isn't even plant accurate. We've thrown out a relatively arbitrary figure of 5% addback for terpenes previously in discussions in this thread when talking about re-introducing terpenes to a mix, but that was just a generalized figure (starting point). If you look at strain data, and this is looking at all terpenes combined instead of looking at just one terpene, they usually only combine to constitute around 3%. So we're talking even smaller numbers for individual terpenes. Even high limonene strains like Lemon Haze or Durban, have only around 1% limonene. Also, if you look at Extract Consultants terpene sampler kit page, it lists some recipes and the final suggested add back on all of them is 3% or under. I assume the Holy Terp products follow similar recipes and use these ingredients and ratios to add back to their "proprietary blend" base.
So, regardless if adding excessive limonene (compared to naturally occurring ratios, plus alcohol) instead of pg/vg/peg "works", using only one terpene at a much higher % than all combined terpenes usually occur in cannabis is no more "natural" than using pg/vg/peg. It's an attractive pursuit to try to use terpenes to dissolve concentrates for pens instead of any pg/vg/peg, but terpenes are ultimately caustic so it will not be less irritating, less harmful, or more natural at all once you use enough to liquefy the concentrate. These compounds (pg/vg/peg) exist for applications like this, to be used as carriers, they are not worse for you than terpene solvents for this purpose. All of the premixed carts (as well as CC) have some sort of filler that isn't being labeled, it can't be just terpenes, they don't fill that volume.
That's where my head is at with all this. I don't claim to be an expert and apologize if I sound like I'm arguing. I'm not. I've been through this exact same loop in my head since I started checking this stuff out.
