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Micro-dosing

Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by stressed, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. P.A.M.

    P.A.M. Vapo Rising

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    Well I'm close to the "Gateway to the North" in the Great Canadian Shield , Northern Ontario. Dunno about your neck of woods but here its shovelling everyday ! Country quite vast so

    Sorry folks, I got lost thinking I was reading a vapcap info thread here reading the last page of posts so please don't mind my geography session in this post.

    I'm fairly new to microdosing (vaporizing too) .

    I know I'm under 0.1 , maybe .05-.07 . I Have a Bamboo HI glass core on the way , milli scale and other gadget or twO so I will wishfully make more grounds on microdosing. Might have to consider vapcap later when make more dough. I only discovered recently that halfing my load from .2 to .1 gave me pretty much same results. Thank you to all who share in this thread and the other one on how many bud vaped per session. You folks are all helpful!

    If anyone or new vapor friends ahave doubts if micro-dosing works , or if what you read on vaporizers is true , etc. I highly suggest going for it , give it a try for yourself ! you should be quite content of your experiences and choice. There is a slight learning curve when starting to vape yet it's not rocket science and therfor usually (for me anyways ) gets you where you want in a more fun way , experience and results then combustion. Most info I've read so far if not all as been true :)

    Roast em if you got em !
     
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  2. stressed

    stressed Well-Known Member

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    if i don't have anything to do, i like to stay buzzed all day (except during my 2 hour nap). i do .04 to .06 per bag about one bag an hour.

    after all this time of doing smallish doses, i'm still surprised at how high i get with just .05 or so. i usually realize how nicely high i am while i'm loading another bag. i need to stop doing that one of these days. :)
     
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  3. Vaked420

    Vaked420 Well-Known Member

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    Ya redosing when I'm already content is a big problem for me, especially with certain tools. My concentrate pen is one of them and I find myself taking 3 or 4 hits in a row when I know anything past the first one is just unnecessary tolerance raising and just gives me more negative side effects.
     
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  4. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead Beware of Pizza

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    The pen is dangerous... It's too convenient. That said, I have a divine tribe 3 on the way... HAHA
     
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  5. jwr38

    jwr38 Member

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    My issue as well. This is the reason I'm working on mirco dosing. I noticed I can go 0.025g and have an ok feeling. My issue is that my vape has a big bowl ... I just can't help myself sometimes. I want to get a vapcap to help me with limiting the heaviness of my dose.
     
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  6. EverythingsHazy

    EverythingsHazy Well-Known Member

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    Something else to consider when it comes to "micro-dosing", is how much you are using in the entire day. If you are doing 0.05g bowls, but doing ten of them throughout the day, are you really dosing less than someone who does one 0.250g bowl twice a day?

    While the strong noticeable buzz usually only lasts a few hours tops, Cannabis definitely has longer lasting effects on the body. If you are dosing again, before it is completely out of your system, you are effectively maintaining a certain blood level of the various chemicals in Cannabis, much like taking a prescription medicine at a high dose, but splitting it up throughout the day.
     
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  7. jwr38

    jwr38 Member

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    I agree in some sense but I also found that even if I took (and I did) take those 0.2 bowls, I still would want one a few hours later. I think it is wise to budget. I am trying 4 x 0.025gr during a non-working day with 4 x 0.05 at night. I break it down each morning into doses so not to over do it. I would like it to be less but my vape struggles with 0.025 already. On work days I only use at night to help calm my ADD. (I need my hyperness for my job, it helps).
     
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  8. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard Accessory Maker

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    I did it again! Today was restocking day.

    Indica:
    The Hog
    Afgooey
    Pure OG

    Sativa:
    Chocolope

    Whenever I switch strains, keep forgetting that the first few sessions need to lower the dose! Since it was a weekend day and we were going hiking, did a 0.01g of Chocolope. . Love Chocolope if it's the right genetics... this batch was. All the energy, none of the edge! But I forgot to lower the dose, so I was flying way higher than I needed to be!!!

    Wasn't a bad hike. Was just blazing.

    Looking forward to seeing how the Afgooey hits as a nightcap!

    :rockon:
     
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  9. Enialis

    Enialis Member

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    You guys are amazing, followed this thread since its inception as a lurker, I drop some of your guys weekly dose on the floor, any tips for a guy trying to lower his tolerance? I vape roughly an oz a week and taking a t-break is not much of an option because of phantom limb syndrome. Would a log vape be a step in the right direction forcing myself to take smaller doses if I like the way the EVO operates in general?
     
  10. muunch

    muunch Munchlax uses Rest!

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    I think it's more about self control. Even with my Underdog and tiny doses, I just keep hitting it bc it's there and convenient, after I'm already pretty baked.

    I just stopped combusting in late October though and I've been super excited about all the new vaporizers I've gotten, so that might play into my excessive use. Though I first started vaping in 2010, and had only used a MFLB prior to 2 months ago when I got my Milaana so that's probably why it's all fresh and exciting.

    I would say maybe just wait to take your first dose until later in the day or maybe switch to concentrates.

    e: clearly I'm not a microdosing expert or even a regular microdoser rn. Forcing a tbreak right now to try and get myself to a reasonable level.
     
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  11. SmDeox

    SmDeox Member

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    There's a lot of people smarter than me about this but logs in general are amazing at micro dosing since usually you can't fit a huge load in to begin with. Great extraction+small loads make it easy to get your spot without consuming those huge hits you probably get with the evo. :D

    As far as tolerance I take a few days break every month. That works for me more than taking a longer break less often. Dunno if that's feasible for you, but it may make a difference. There's also been some posts about getting more out of your weed.... the recent thread about consumption here has some knowledge. I'll let a more experienced person answer ya though since mine is mostly personal opinion.


    @DDave what's your all time favorites? :p
     
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  12. DDave

    DDave Vape Wizard Accessory Maker

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    @SmDeox

    Daytime:
    Chocolope, but has to be the right version!
    Sour Diesel
    Fire OG

    Evening:
    OG Kush
    Crown OG
    DJ Blueberry

    (at least till next restocking) :rockon:

    Yours?
     
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  13. Enialis

    Enialis Member

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    Thanks guys, self-control is definitely an issue with you me, since I'm off-work indefinitely after my accident.

    @SmDeox thats sorta what I was thinking, one hitting a stems one at a time seems like it might be a way to not blow my head off to fast to quickly with the EVO

    I already wait until about 2:30 everyday except my morning hit for leg spasms, abstinence style t-breaks to me aren't much of an option unless i want to go back on opiates (no thanks). I think dose titration might be the way i need to do it, just like when I weaned myself down on anxiety meds (on-going process, wrong forum)
     
  14. muunch

    muunch Munchlax uses Rest!

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    Hey, if you need to consume a zip a week to stay off opiates, no shame man.

    I agree, titrating is the probably the best way to go. A log vape will definitely help but I recommend you weigh your doses (get a milligram scale) and try and stick to somewhat of a schedule.

    If you need someone to talk to about weening off of benzos, DM me. I don't have direct experience but I have had friends stuck on clonazolam/phenazepam and was there for him to boost mood and suggest supplements to aid withdrawals etc.
     
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  15. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    I vape all day long, every few hours. I lowered my tolerance by intentionally packing slightly smaller bowls. Vaping a little bit less, a little bit less every day. If you go slow and always vape slightly less, you will find that you get the same effects with less material.

    I am down to .015 - .02 gms at a time. About .06 gm per day.
     
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  16. SmDeox

    SmDeox Member

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    No shame bud we all have some demons. I have an addictive personality for some things also and MMJ>>>>>Any prescription drugs IMO.

    @DDave I've probably tried around 12 strains so definitely don't have your experience haha but my favorite night time is either Bubba or OG Kush and the only strain I've found that I can reliably use during the day is green crack. I haven't tried the daytimes you like so I'll pick some up and give it a go!
     
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  17. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    Iv never taken a t break and my tolerance is wherever I want to put it....

    I can go from vaping a gram a day, to vaping 0.2 a day, within a couple of days...

    The trick is just to lower your doses, and add more time between them...

    Now at your level, this will take more than a few days, a couple of weeks maybe...
    But it's achievable..

    Start by dropping to 3 grams a day....

    You may find that the more you lower your tolerance, the better your medicine works...

    I also find a vapcap is nice to mix it up with the evo... change of delivery method is good for confusing tolerance...
    Nice small bowl, but strong effects...
     
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  18. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    Yes.... ^^^^^ that's very true in my experience. Strong medicine from light doses.
     
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  19. waxdab23

    waxdab23 Well-Known Member

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    I think I learned from this thread...take 1 hit, wait a few minutes for the effects, then take more if needed.
     
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  20. biohacker

    biohacker Hopped Up

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    I need to tattoo your statement into my brain! The problem is that vaporizer testing is just too damn fun of a hobby for me! Blasted VAS!
     
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  21. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    a great way to use less is to consistently switch your strains around so your tolerance does not get conditioned to just one profile of cannabinoid from just one strain all the time... so, instead of getting just one strain break it up into four different strains and keep up with the order in which you use them... you will find too that doing this will show you particular strain attributes that allow you to dose according to strain attributes....
     
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  22. ramram

    ramram clickbait

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    I am trying to reduce my daily intake and have been watching this thread with interest. I must admit that I have really previously had no incentive before to reduce or even monitor my intake, other than making sure I am not blasting through my money.

    I was taking two hits from a Da Budda vape with the standard bowl size, around .2 to 0.3, so in total one session for me was 0.4 - 0.6. Total daily intake was anywhere between 1 to 2 grams daily.

    I received my Omnivap and Evo on 30/12 and since then have reduced my intake to 0.6g on weekdays which I found relatively easy because my evenings are quite short. I'm struggling with the weekends with much more spare time and had 0.8g Saturday and Sunday I wanted a film watching session and had a blow-out day of 1.2g.

    In total I have easily halved my consumption just by making a few changes - the biggest of which was to actually start taking an interest in the amounts I am using. Over the holidays I was using 9 grams a week and this week was just 5g.

    I am going to make a concerted effort to continue this downwards trend, I have a two day break enforced by a business trip where I will be a passenger and uncomfortable taking anything with me at all, so hopefully this will help a bit more.

    I do notice the old 'just one more hit' thoughts creeping in, hopefully over time I will experience the highs I used to get with less bud intake.

    Thanks to all posting in this thread, for the motivation to start and for the helpful tips so far!

    Micro-dosers, you Rock! :rockon:
     
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  23. kellya86

    kellya86 Herb gardener...

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    A winning team right there...
    The evo/ht and my tiwoody/vong seems to be keeping vas very much at bay....
    They compliment each other very well...
    Im sure this helps with tolerance....

    They are very different, yet both powerfull...
     
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  24. XiolaOne

    XiolaOne Member

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    Using a Firewood 4, I usually get 3-4 hits per capsule (.03g) and it last a couple hours. Doing this method I go about 1g a week
     
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  25. t-dub

    t-dub Vapor Sloth

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    I also deal with chronic pain. I find that a micro dose will give me the feeling of being high, however, it will not hit the body like I desire. Personally I find that vaping for pain takes more medicine. Out of all the vapes I have owned, The Cloud EVO hits my body the best.
    That is an excellent approach. I vape until my pain level says I have had enough.
    It is important to rotate strains and vaporizers to keep effects "fresh" so to speak.
     
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