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Discussion in 'Vaporization Discussion' started by stressed, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. Vaked420

    Vaked420 Well-Known Member

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    It's been hard for the last couple months for me to stick to the dosages that make me feel best, which is probably .05 grams total max on weekdays, with at least a couple days of resetting so to say, and no more than .15 on weekends. This is all in relation to my MFLB, I try to "convert" from other methods to the MFLB efficiency, including concentrates. But my stressors and work load have been pretty intense for a while now and I definitely am noticing how much harder it is for me to use less when I am pushed to my limits like I have been lately. I find myself not taking the breaks and slowing down the way I need to be healthy mentally and physically, and without enough medicating, my ADD pushes me to an extreme level of exhaustion that for me makes me feel awful with headaches and depressive thoughts and generally just flu like symptoms.

    But as of the last few days what's been helping me is really differentiating medical and recreational use. It helps me to keep my daily throughout the day "saturation cannabinoids" if you will that are targeted to keep me lower energy tI avoid exhausting myself, and then being much more careful with my recreational uses, which keeps my tolerance lower and let's me feel more comfortable with my overall use when I go into "rec mode" for now all concentrates for me are recreational for example. Too habitual too easily for me and doesn't medicate my ADD as well
     
  2. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    I feel you completely on sticking to dosages that make you feel best. I've been thinking of switching entirely to concentrates though. I prefer the flavor and would rather reward myself at the end of the day with a little dab of terpy goodness. I get into trouble wake n vaking, I always want it, don't always need it. It's almost never that dose that puts me off though, but it starts the chain because once I'm high I like to keep it going and eventually I'll load a dose that puts me into lazy mode. I think all the portable options get me in trouble with being able to medicate any and everywhere. I don't like getting in that cycle of not wanting to go anywhere or meet anyone without being stoned. I read a post on here that really inspired me about how they only keep a home vaporizer, keeps them in an honest check. I do use for medical mental health, but it seems like many treating this diagnosis run the course of a similar path of needing to be more conscious with their levels.
     
  3. SmDeox

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    It's a very hard balance. Originally started combusting regularly to avoid hard pain killers when I tore a few tendons in my wrist during a tennis match during my SO year of college. I'd been prescribed hard painkillers before and combined with a semi-addictive personality I tried Mary Jane instead. Fast forward 2 years later and I still don't have the perfect balance. Grades dropped heavily when I was waking and baking, but once I switched over to vaping small amounts (3~ months ago) grades have evened out and things are pretty positive.

    Routine is usually:
    Wake up, Take ECA stack
    Micro dose between .02-.04 (Sativa's only and ALWAYS mid grade weed)
    Head to class
    Effects wear off about halfway through first class


    At night I'll do a concentrate or have a nice session.

    I could obviously function without a morning micro dose, but I've found it to have pretty nice benefits with 0 drawbacks so far. (I've tried microdosing almost every drug and MMJ is very close to the top)
     
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  4. Vaked420

    Vaked420 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I was trying to get at in that the chain reaction of highs that leads to getting lazy is actually my medical benefit. It slows me down to a healthy speed during the day. But when I got access to concentrates portabley is when things got dicey. Now I take the MFLB around with me and if I'm home and ready to have a little more fun I pull out the dab rig or the volcano for some fun time haha. The volcano is actually surprisingly good for heavier micro dosing if that makes sense. I made a really small bag for myself that maybe .05 in the volcano will fill 3 or 4 of and 1 small bag every 15-30 minutes will have me feeling suuuuuper good
     
  5. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    Microdosers, do you prefer to ride the wave all the way to shore or top up semi-frequently with continual small doses?
     
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  6. muunch

    muunch zzzzz

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  7. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    @muunch , I do have bought a medic planner and have tried it, pretty convenient,
    but I tend to prefer to grind (or not!) when I need to. It seems to preserve flavors much better :)

    @invertedisdead My daily driver dose is a Ti VapCap bowl, with the screen at the top position; making it smaller (.01-.02g), and I come back to it when it fade down, like an hour or so. High as a kite. All day.

    Depends on what you're doing ! If you are busy, you'll easily forget about it, and just enjoy the flight !
    At work and doing repetitive and simple tasks, one bowl makes all the morning !

    But seldom; an evening with a good movie on projector, you find me sipping on a .1g bowl with the Herborizer ..:brow:

    :cool:
     
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  8. muunch

    muunch zzzzz

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    I wasn't sure I'd like the idea of pre-grinding all my stuff either, but figure it may be nice when I'm really trying to conserve material or adhere to a strict schedule. I also picked up some outdoor light-dep buds due to budget (or lack thereof) and they don't taste nearly as strong/good as proper indoor.

    Who knows. I need to reset my tolerance or at least let it dip a bit before I begin steadily microdosing.

    I can still get effects from .025~ but it's not nearly strong enough to be satisfying.


    edit:

    suppose I could leave a budlet in each chamber and grind as I go. Who knows.
    I'll likely try and do an excel sheet when I get around to being a bit more structured in my use.
     
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  9. Joaon

    Joaon Well-Known Member

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    Just as pure suggestion, as I see you haven't a Dynavap product (yet?), you could use the Ti bowl of VapCap to 'dose' your loads (even for another vaporizer), using it at beginning with bowl at full capacity (around .05 - .07g) and decrease with time;
    there is grooves inside where the screen can be moved, at 2/3 and 1/3 capacity.
    The 1/3 capacity get me where the full bowl got me few months back :myday:



    Long time no see @Squiby here..
    I'm interested to hear what you think of all of that ! :wave:
     
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  10. muunch

    muunch zzzzz

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    I was planning on getting a vapcap at some point, but getting new vapes/accessories I think is what has been fueling my higher-than-normal level of usage lol.

    I have a milligram scale I can use if I really desired, but I've been lazy and I also think that weighing every dose before use will take away the fun spontaneity of it. Can't knock what I haven't tried yet though
     
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  11. invertedisdead

    invertedisdead trance-form

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    A tiny measuring spoon equivalent to your desired approximate dosage works well with pre ground.
     
  12. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    The Vapcap is perfect for microdoseing. I only weighed my load once to take pics and post the info here.

    So, I never weigh and never grind. Grinding is a completely unnecessary activity for the Vapcap and no stiring is required either. I just tear a tiny nug from a flower and pop it into the chamber.

    Easy peasy and perfect.
     
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  13. muunch

    muunch zzzzz

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    I was trying not to be as tempted by avoiding @phattpiggie posts and the vapcap thread...

    I'll have to wait til the next sale(or try really hard) but yeah I don't think I can avoid getting one haha
     
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  14. Silat

    Silat When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.

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    I ride the wave. But I am a lightweight supermicro doser.
     
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  15. jwr38

    jwr38 Active Member

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    I been trying to get into microdosing but my flowermate only holds down to 0.05g and sometimes not well. I see people talking about a vapcap and they look very interesting. What is a good one for mircodosing?
     
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  16. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    I recommend a titanium tipped Vapcap. Below are some details that may help you make your choice.

    All Vapcap models are wonderful. Your choice comes down to price, durability and function.

    The OG Vapcap is the least expensive and the most fragile. It has a one piece all glass tip/body combination, a glass condenser and soft mouthpiece. People typically try the OG, fall in love and then upgrade to a titanium tipped Vapcap. They go for $35.
    [​IMG]

    The ti tipped Vapcaps have a titanium tip/herb chamber. Inside the chamber are three ridges. This allows for bowl adjustment. The screen can be seated in any of the three ridges to create a bowl size suited to larger or smaller herb loads. I have mine in the middle ridge and can comfortably vape .015 gm loads with room to spare. I don't grind. I just tear off a tiny nug from a bud and pop it in there.

    In the pic below of the tips, on the left the screen is seated in the top ridge and the right one is set in the lowest ridge.
    [​IMG]

    The ti tipped Vapcaps are fully modular so you can switch out parts for a different look, different function or durability. They come in four different general configurations. The ti models range in price from $85 - $160.

    Ti Vapcap S. This model is 3.5 inches long and has a 45mm long BODY midsection and a mouthpiece. You can choose straight bodies or VonG bodies to accommodate 14mm or 18 mm watertools in a variety of wood, metal or carbon fiber choices.

    Ti Vapcap. This This model is 3.5 inches also. It has a 62mm long STEM midsection. There is NO mouthpiece. You can choose straight bodies or VonG bodies to accommodate 14mm watertools in a variety of wood choices.

    Ti Vapcap XLS. This model is 4.25 inches long and has a 62mm long STEM midsection and a mouthpiece. You can choose straight bodies or VonG bodies to accommodate 14mm watertools in a variety of wood choices.

    Here is a pic of the three basic models side by side. From left to right, Ti Woody S, Ti Woody and the Ti Woody XLS.

    [​IMG]
    The Omnivap. This model is 3.5 inches long and has a 45mm long BODY midsection and a titanium mouthpiece. You can choose straight bodies or VonG bodies to accommodate 14mm or 18 mm watertools in a variety of wood, metal or carbon fiber choices. The Omnivap sports an all metal build (titanium body optional). The condenser threads into the mouthpiece to create an adjustable airflow, set and forget situation. The Omni is a tank, VERY durable and near indestructible.

    [​IMG]


    As I mentioned, I recommend the Ti tipped Vapcaps for both durability and the adjustable bowl. Choose one that appeals to you. The modular aspect means that once you buy your Vapcap, you can interchange different elements to create any of the ti models above. You can switch out mouthpieces, bodies, stems, VonGs and condensers for aesthetic, function, length or just to have some variety.

    The Vapcap is not only an incredibly efficient, reliable and beautiful vaporizer, it is LEGO for stoners. It is hard to stop at just one. Ask me how I know....:rockon:
     
  17. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    ^ you must micro dose a lot!! with that many vapes... great collection! is it still micro dosing if done all the time!
     
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  18. cloudsosmoke

    cloudsosmoke Well-Known Member


    that was very informative post

    ..i have OG vapcap
    but i still didnt understand how vapcap system works

    i was planning to try to find out about it slowly in its dedicated thread

    but now i dont have to
    saved me lots of time ..thanks for that
     
  19. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    the vap cap metal tip kept popping off unexpectedly and I realized my finger was on the carb hole on the side of the glass piece :rolleyes: I'd be sitting there and the tip goes flying across the room LOL... with the herb behind it :mental:
     
  20. mccringleberry

    mccringleberry Well-Known Member

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    I can only speak for myself, but I dont like using frequently, no matter how small the doses are. I dont vape until work is over, or on my off days after Ive gotten some stuff done. I like to spend 50% of my waking hours sober. If given the choice between vaping 0.01 every hour or waiting until the end of the day and hitting 0.1, Ill always choose the ladder.
     
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  21. cloudsosmoke

    cloudsosmoke Well-Known Member

    @C No Ego

    i guess thats one way to reduce your consumption

    lol
     
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  22. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I think so. I don't toke while high. I always wait a couple of hours between tokes.

    I am retired and have some medical issues that have left me with chronic low energy. Toking a nice sativa throughout the day, in tiny doses, gives me the energy to complete the chores I need to do, done, to keep my acerage going.

    If I find my tolerance increasing, I deliberately reduce my consumption so that I only vape around .015 gms every few hours during the day.

    Here is some further information that may be of interest...

    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/dynavap-vapcap.18853/page-335#post-1051793

    It sounds like your cap is loose and that you may be blowing instead of sucking...:cool:Suck don't blow unless you are blowing out your spent load.

    You can adjust your cap by removing it from the Vapcap tip and gently squeezing it slightly out of round. You can squeeze the cap until it fits tightly to your liking.
     
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  23. C No Ego

    C No Ego Well-Known Member

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    I would gladly help you work if in your area.. I work a lot of carpentry jobs all around my area as a profession. thanks for the tip ( pun) about the tip.. :)
     
  24. Squiby

    Squiby Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha! Thanks for the offer!

    I would be surprised if any FCs members were anywhere close to me. I'm on top of a mountain in a very rural part of Canada. There are more wild animals in these parts than people. Well, some of the people could be considered wild animals, but I'm referring to the ones that live outside, in the woods.
     
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  25. jwr38

    jwr38 Active Member

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    @Squiby

    Thanks for your post. I am going to pick one up. Cheers.
     
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