Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles

notmyrealUSERname

Notmy Well-Known Member
george:

"i have watched the vid you posted and it looked pretty effective at producing vapor. however, i wouldn't say that you got a huge cloud, or milked that bong as well as some of the other videos i have seen of people using the vriptech, or a supreme vaporizer. maybe that is due to your 'smoking' technique? does it feel like it hits hard? that's the main thing."

remember, vapor can be decieving under different lighting. I think he pretty much milked that as much as you can with vapor, i havn't seen any other vapor videos which have looked much milkier. Lighting plays a big role in how "milked" a bong seems when it comes to vapor.

i agree lighting does play a role. i am basing my 'milkyness' (haha is that even a word?) quotient on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAvCGzrv-w

i have ordered a supreme, and i have that exact hoss mini bong. that is what i am looking forward to experiencing. so i will always compare any vape to the setup thashiek uses in that vid - its my baseline, if you will.

anyways, i forgot that he had said somewhere about it being the fifth time or so, until you pointed that out hemp;)goofy8cheerio - thanks. i agree that it would be handy to know amount vaped though.
 
notmyrealUSERname,

Beezleb

Well-Known Member
Generically speaking, I would not get to overly caught up in videos. Their is no way to know "what" material and quality is being used and their are many tricks to highlight vapor/smoke.

I recommend using them as a reference only but not as gospel so to speak. I am not speaking specifically of any one video but like I said, just generic commentary on the video subject.
 
Beezleb,

george

Well-Known Member
notmyrealUSERname said:
george:

"i have watched the vid you posted and it looked pretty effective at producing vapor. however, i wouldn't say that you got a huge cloud, or milked that bong as well as some of the other videos i have seen of people using the vriptech, or a supreme vaporizer. maybe that is due to your 'smoking' technique? does it feel like it hits hard? that's the main thing."

remember, vapor can be decieving under different lighting. I think he pretty much milked that as much as you can with vapor, i havn't seen any other vapor videos which have looked much milkier. Lighting plays a big role in how "milked" a bong seems when it comes to vapor.

i agree lighting does play a role. i am basing my 'milkyness' (haha is that even a word?) quotient on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAvCGzrv-w

i have ordered a supreme, and i have that exact hoss mini bong. that is what i am looking forward to experiencing. so i will always compare any vape to the setup thashiek uses in that vid - its my baseline, if you will.

anyways, i forgot that he had said somewhere about it being the fifth time or so, until you pointed that out hemp;)goofy8cheerio - thanks. i agree that it would be handy to know amount vaped though.

Hey i watched the video and the lighting is a LOT more profound in that one. Which i think is why it looks so milky, it doesnt even look that much whiter than the lsv video though.

Beezlab has got it right. Plus you don't know what temperatures they are using so thats another things that comes into play.
 
george,

Troi

Well-Known Member
notmyrealUSERname said:
troi:

I feel it is the best vape because it comes closest to providing no tubes, no wood, no metal (Except for the screens, and ceramic heating element) in the vapor path, while providing dense thick tasty vapor. All my other vapes have collected dust, since this guy has arrived. The Three year warranty is also not a bad deal.

In my opinion, 40$ more then the average vape, for the best vape on the market is a good price.

i am glad to hear you are enjoying your purchase! you have said previously that;

I currently own: DBV, SSV, Volcano Digit, MFLB, Herbal-air, and Extreme Q, and I will defiantly say i prefer the LSV over all of these based on my current experiences.

i would like to know the reasons why you prefer the lsv over the others. i'm guessing you don't like vaping out of the bags, and whips, as much as you do, your glass? is it the water filtration, or something else, like how long a session takes?

i have watched the vid you posted and it looked pretty effective at producing vapor. however, i wouldn't say that you got a huge cloud, or milked that bong as well as some of the other videos i have seen of people using the vriptech, or a supreme vaporizer. maybe that is due to your 'smoking' technique? does it feel like it hits hard? that's the main thing.

2clicker:

in fact id say my hakko vapes with the 90deg heater cover functions better but ONLY due to the fact that you dont hold the vape to the bowl all straight like. seems like the wire would be pulling at the top and just seems awkward in general to hold it the way you have to hold it when say using it with a tube. same with the vrip wands. the wire sticks out at the top end of the vape... just seems awkward to me.

i think this is a valid point - ergonomics are important! if its easy to use, i'll probably use it more often. durability is also key. if i am afraid i will break it every other time i use it, (like i would be if i had a vriptech), then i will use it less often.

i still need to know more about this vape (and vaping in general) before i pull the trigger and order the lsv. right now it looks like the $300 - $400 price range is about to explode with some very impressive vaporizers and i want to make sure i get the one that i feel, is 'built for me'.

I want to remind you that i used an Iphone4, I did not play around with the lighting, and I'm going to guess it was probably not optimal to make vapor look milky. But I would say it was extremly milky in terms of mouth feeel, taste, and the clouds that i blew out. (all of witch very hard to show on camera.

As for how much was in the bowl, I had .2 ground of of some quality Ak-47.

The temperature setting was dead 12:00, the bud was lightly browned, as it was my 5-6 hit. But for a fresh bowl, it darkens the bud similar to the SSV, I usually stir it up after every two hits.

One thing that I do want to let everyone know, defiantly buy a few extra packs of the .5 inch screens when you order your LSV, you need to replace your screen probably every 20-30 uses bowl packs. The real reason I think this occurs because the LSV bowl, does not have the glass shaped so that it is easy to trap the screen in place. Which does not allow you to blow through the bowl to clean the screen out, as I did with my SSV wand. If you do try to blow through it the screen comes right out.

Keeping a screen that is not clogged in my opinion is key for optimal use of the LSV, if not the limited airflow can easily cause the bud to be burned, or charred, especially when using higher temps on lower vaped bud to get the higher actives.


SSV Chris -- I think 7th floor probably should identify this requirement for this device, and offer a massive bulk order of screens for a better deal then the 4$ for 10 screens, I would be interested in a pack of 200 or 500 even for a reasonable price. For a user like me, I'm replacing the screen probably every 2-3 days. With the SSV it was once every 10 days.
 
Troi,

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
dunno why you would need so many screens, unless you are throwing them out after you are done. Whenever I had my SSV if a screen was wicked dirty, I just threw it in an ISO soak. While one screen was soaking, I would take either a new or used (cleaned) screen and use that. The whole time I owned my SSV I never needed more than the 4 screens that came with it.
Using screens in a vape is not like using them in a combustion pipe. I personally rarely see the need to replace screens with brand new ones, when a good ISO soak is all you need to make them as good as new.
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
DevoTheStrange said:
dunno why you would need so many screens, unless you are throwing them out after you are done. Whenever I had my SSV if a screen was wicked dirty, I just threw it in an ISO soak. While one screen was soaking, I would take either a new or used (cleaned) screen and use that. The whole time I owned my SSV I never needed more than the 4 screens that came with it.
Using screens in a vape is not like using them in a combustion pipe. I personally rarely see the need to replace screens with brand new ones, when a good ISO soak is all you need to make them as good as new.

Totally agree. Had a discussion like this with someone who said that they were constantly replacing screens in their PD stems. I've been using the same stems every night for two years and never once felt the need to replace the screen. ISO wash works just fine.
 
is the screen damaged beyond needin a soak in iso/hi%alc, wouldn't that clean a dozen screens that r in rotation? keep em clean enuff? or is the process of puttin in or takin out the screens not make it possible or damages the screen so if u clean/soak in alc then screen is bent won't werk or seal well?
 
hemp;)goofy8cheerio,

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
hemp;)goofy8cheerio said:
is the screen damaged beyond needin a soak in iso/hi%alc, wouldn't that clean a dozen screens that r in rotation? keep em clean enuff? or is the process of puttin in or takin out the screens not make it possible or damages the screen so if u clean/soak in alc then screen is bent won't werk or seal well?

sometimes your questions are hard to understand hemp. Still don't quite get what it is specifically you are asking.
I dont think any ISO soak will damage the screen. I think with a vape a screen becomes damaged by being manhandled to the point of losing its shape. Also heavy use of pokers while stirring can either cause a hole to form, or make the flat screen become domed shaped. I think the actual shape the likes is a result of handling the screen, not soaking them.
So if the screens are heavily used and are physically touched alot, chances are they might just fall apart and need to be replaced. But if you baby them and careful with them, chances are you can get by with just soaking them
 

2clicker

Observer
DevoTheStrange said:
I personally rarely see the need to replace screens with brand new ones, when a good ISO soak is all you need to make them as good as new.

while i agree with this id say after some use they do seem to wear out a bit.

and by that i mean the shape of them. after inserting and removing screens from SSV and DBV wands a few times they can start to fray or come apart. they can also become misshapen and hard to deal with, but most def come clean like new with an iso soak.

i also have ordered some screens from aqua lab tech. they offer a few options in SS and titanium screens. the Ti screens are way expensive tho so i just copped some SS screens. the ones i ordered were a much finer wire diameter and tighter weave. i thought this might help in keeping plant matter particulates from getting past the screen. not that i have a problem with that with the normal 7th floor screens, but i thought it would just be even better. this was a mistake. the screens work well, but become caked far too easily and much too fast. im only getting about 2 or 3 days with these.

so im back to using the 7th Floor screens and getting around 2 weeks out of them. i do alot of scraping on the screen after emptying every bowl with a marble pick. a little preventative maintenance goes a long way.
 
2clicker,

Beezleb

Well-Known Member
Ive used about 4 screens in my DBV in total and still on the first ones with the Zephyr. Dump em into some iso or everclear for a quick moment or so and perhaps a quick once over with a toothbrush and its all good.

I also know people who go through screens all the time.
 

aesthyrian

Blaaaaah
I use the glass pick to lightyl scrape out any lightly stuck material in the screen after every use. When I scrape my wand I replace the screen, average maybe every 2 months. Like Devo said, just soak the dingy screens in ISO, you can even let the iso evap off and have some hash oil. Fun for the whole family.
 
aesthyrian,

VaporNation

Vaporizer Superstore
Retailer
How does everyone like this Vaporizer? We don't currently carry this particular model, however, this device looks promising. 7th Floor Vaporizers is a great company, so I'm very interested. Does it work well with a Water Pipe/Bong?
 
VaporNation,

lwien

Well-Known Member
VaporNation said:
How does everyone like this Vaporizer? We don't currently carry this particular model, however, this device looks promising. 7th Floor Vaporizers is a great company, so I'm very interested. Does it work well with a Water Pipe/Bong?

Only one review in here, so it may be a bit too early to tell, but I think that most of us agree that it does look promising. From looking at the vid, it looks like it works pretty well with a bong.
 
lwien,

stinkmeaner

Well-Known Member
VaporNation said:
How does everyone like this Vaporizer? We don't currently carry this particular model, however, this device looks promising. 7th Floor Vaporizers is a great company, so I'm very interested. Does it work well with a Water Pipe/Bong?
I am sure people will like it since the functional parts are the same as the other 7th floor models (same heating design/different angle). It just adds direct draw and direct waterpipe attachment without the whip.
 
stinkmeaner,

Raf007

Well-Known Member
Retailer
Hi there,

Here is my vape test review for the LSV.

I got it friday, and spent a bit of time playing with it until now.

Quick shipping and swift answers from the 7th floor team to each email I sent to them.
(Ordered the 3rd, got it across the atlantic the 12th)

Just a NB: This is the first direct draw/whip style/ wand vape I try, so I have nothing to compare with.
I can only compare with the vapes that I have: Volcano, MFLB, SUpreme Vaporizer, Iolite.

And this vape definitely gets a place in this collection.

Especially that the ratio air/vapor don't allow this vape to be a one hitter with a glass(like the SV can be)... at least not with the bowl that comes with it.

BUT, this ratio is nice when you just want to use it with the wand, it gives several nice hits easily...well, I guess it's the same with all the whip vapes, the more hits you want the lower your start the temperature at.

Taste wise, it's the best taste I have tried yet, hands down !!

... thicker hits than the cano of course also...but thiner than SV hits..which makes the load last way longer than with the SV and way shorter than with the cano.

It's easy to handle, it's sturdy, and it's...silent ;) and you can carry it safely with the travel padded bag that comes with it.

I left it on for an hour or so without it getting to hot to handle... but it does get a bit hot tho.

I only have small comments to make about it, which are not a big deal but...

In my opinion, because 7th floor advertised it being made for a glass use they should give the water pipe adapter for free all the time, coz I am not sure that one could use the LSV with a bong without one...MAYBE if they hade shape the end piece of the glass cover differently it would but they didn't.

As Troi noticed, the glasscover and the ceramic element are not perfectly aligned and that's a bit disturbing...except if 7th floor tells us it's done on purpice.

I wish I could go higher in temps like I can do with the supreme vaporizer coz that's what I like...but then maybe you could reach combustion to easily.

As for now, I have not succeeded to reach it, even at max...which is a good point imho.

Last comment, there is no way to put properly the gauze in the water pipe adaptator... THAT is a bit annoying as you have to be really carefull when you want to stirr.

And it's even more annoying that I think (but I can be wrong) that they could have find a way to have it fit like they did with the gauze in the wand.

I am also not sure the air seal is total....apparentlty I am not the only one as Gabsy had some issues too, so I will contact them this week to talk about that.

About the gauze pb, I know for sure I am not the only as a friend of mine has the same pb, and didn't find a way either.

Conclusion:

I am really happy and pleased with the LSV ! I can finally have some nice and tasty hits quick and easy...and in silent...with one free hand.

Taste wise, it's the best that I have tried as for now...

So as for now (but only time will tell) THANK YOU 7th Floor for that product...and for your customer service !


I will definitely post a vid within the next 3 days... sorry guys, I know some of you have been waiting for that but I had a busy weekend and had no time to do a nice video..but it will come !! :D

And I will report again after a bit of usage.

Hope this report help some of you, and sorry if my english is not perfect, I tried my best ;)

Happy sunday to all !
 
Raf007,

Raf007

Well-Known Member
Retailer
Here are the links to some vids.

In order, same batch of herb in both, I just crushed it in between.
And took, like 4 more long but really really light hits at the end that I didn't filmed.


http://dl.free.fr/mcU92fvn8

http://dl.free.fr/lbDjPbY4I

Of course I would appreciate that no one put those on their website or youtube etc.... I know it's not realistic but I can dream, can I ? ;)
 
Raf007,

OC513

Dabaholic
Raf007 said:
Here are the links to some vids.

In order, same batch of herb in both, I just crushed it in between.
And took, like 4 more long but really really light hits at the end that I didn't filmed.


http://dl.free.fr/mcU92fvn8

http://dl.free.fr/lbDjPbY4I

Of course I would appreciate that no one put those on their website or youtube etc.... I know it's not realistic but I can dream, can I ? ;)

Thanks.....nice vids Raf.....looks like a solid vape.
 
OC513,

Raf007

Well-Known Member
Retailer
You're Welcome !

I'm happy to give back to the community that gave me so much...so if anyone needs some answers...feel free.
 
Raf007,
Raf007 said:
You're Welcome !

I'm happy to give back to the community that gave me so much...so if anyone needs some answers...feel free.
thcx raf i'd like to watch can't get the video workin is france freebox vid not available to amerika?
 
hemp;)goofy8cheerio,

caseball2051

Well-Known Member
ah that sit ebrings me back to high school where i studied french and visited france.

j'etudie le francais a l'ecole. (see i still got it, kinda)

can someone upload this to an easier site or something? I was not waiting over an hour to download an 88mb file. (no offense)

any official vids from 7th floor yet?
 
caseball2051,
How can they be manufacturing, selling and publicizing a product without some decent photos and videos? Turn on the office fluorescent lighting and pull out your damn phone.
 
charliedontsurf,

2clicker

Observer
charliedontsurf said:
How can they be manufacturing, selling and publicizing a product without some decent photos and videos? Turn on the office fluorescent lighting and pull out your damn phone.

SSV Chris said:
We will have the LSV video posted ASAP, we promise.

posted on the 5th
 
2clicker,

ShadowLink12

Activist
2clicker said:
charliedontsurf said:
How can they be manufacturing, selling and publicizing a product without some decent photos and videos? Turn on the office fluorescent lighting and pull out your damn phone.

SSV Chris said:
We will have the LSV video posted ASAP, we promise.

posted on the 5th

I will have my videos and photos coming this weekend, as well as an in depth review,
 
ShadowLink12,

2clicker

Observer
ShadowLink12 said:
2clicker said:
charliedontsurf said:
How can they be manufacturing, selling and publicizing a product without some decent photos and videos? Turn on the office fluorescent lighting and pull out your damn phone.

SSV Chris said:
We will have the LSV video posted ASAP, we promise.

posted on the 5th

I will have my videos and photos coming this weekend, as well as an in depth review,

nice!

i should add that its great that so many members here will take the time to do this kinda stuff
 
2clicker,

lwien

Well-Known Member
2clicker said:
i should add that its great that so many members here will take the time to do this kinda stuff

And not great that the manufacturer finds it impossible to post up a simple video of how this vape works. Something doesn't quite make sense about that. It doesn't have to be a full on major production with effects by Industrial Light and Magic, eh?
 
lwien,
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