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Least restricted log-vape

Discussion in 'Ask FC' started by Dafni, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    Here's a question for all the log-vape friends: what's the least restricted log-vape you have ever tried, in terms of draw resistance.

    Or better yet, list all the logs you tried and sort them by draw resistance.

    I know that the WW has less restriction than the ENano, but that's about it. I'd love to try an UD, but unfortunately they told me they do not ship overseas. I'm waiting for my spot to come up on the HI waitlist, curious how that one fares.

    Thank you in advance

    Daf
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  2. SpruceGruve

    SpruceGruve Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue

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    I have been looking into the three log vapes mentioned,interested to see someone compare them
  3. zymos

    zymos Well-Known Member

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    Only have an UD, so can't compare to the others, but its draw is basically the same as a regular pipe with a screen.
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  4. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    I have a WW and a HI, can't tell which is more restricted but honestly i don't see the point really.

    As long as it's confortable to hit, which it is, i'm fine with whatever restriction they have.
  5. SSVUN~YAH

    SSVUN~YAH You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...

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    I suggest the EV-2 by epicvape, it is fairly similar to an LSV, at 50% off its a steal!
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  6. lazylathe

    lazylathe On the verge of...

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    I have never had an issue with my Nano.
    If you pack it too tightly you will restrict ther draw.
    Do a nice fluffy load and you can rip on it without any issues.

    It has way less restriction than my Purple Days vape.
  7. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    Since the Wychwood isn't being produced anymore, I don't see the point in including it. As long as you don't pack the e-nano bowl it's quite free flowing hitting it direct, and when using with water filtration, I actually prefer to pack it.
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  8. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    Let me explain my point. Usually you are right, there is not much point, because the herbs are the most restricting component. But sometimes I'm looking for those airy hits, prepare my load nice and loose, so those fancy waterpieces can bubble like they are designed too.

    Sometime, just sometimes, I wish the Nano would be a bit more open and I reach for the WW.

    Good to hear the HI is apparently closer to the WW. Thank you
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  9. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Let me say that i don't know if the HI is closer to the Nano or the WW, i just don't notice a diference between either the WW or the HI.

    Alan perhaps could help you there since i know he and Cookie talked about the WW and i belive the holes in the WW are very similar to the ones used in the HI so i think they are very similar indeed but i can't be sure.

    If you like airy hits, couldn't you just hit the Nano with a faster draw? You could also not grind the nug, that helps a lot and the hits have more flavour. You can poke the nug after a few hits to break into smaller pieces as you hit it until it reaches the grind consistency.
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  10. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.

    There's a definite difference between the Nano and the WW, hard to miss. Hence I'd guess the HI is closer to the WW.

    Hmm, I guess airy is not the right word. Just free flowing, but still dense vapor. I use selfmade adapters and gongs to achieve that, loose load and bigger screens and the likes.

    Usually the Nano does the job perfect, don't get me wrong. I love mine, just received a second one for my workshop. Can't beat that dial. Whole nug is great for flavor, I do that sometimes on direct draw.

    If you want to see your percs fire fully, like on a Cloud, even with loose loads the Nano restricts the flow just that tiny tiny bit too much. Still works great, but different. The WW is so effortless and makes my pieces stack like mad.

    I guess Great but Different sums it up nicely, nothing but Nano love here.
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  11. TwoPageAfro

    TwoPageAfro Enthusiast

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    I can only speak for the UD but the draw is effortless. I use the 14mm GonG with a DHGate bubbler and there's no restriction- only when the screen starts to gunk up which takes several uses.
  12. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    Actually i think the Nano is closer to the HI than the WW, at least judging from the videos i've seen of a nano and my experience with the HI and the WW.
    I did one video for the HI, WW, and Solo at 7. The HI was milking it in 4-5seconds, the WW barely milked it and with a much slower draw. (I use a straight tube, 250ml, which is about 30cm tall)
    But i had one of the first WW, so your WW could run hotter than mine. It problably does if judging from what you're saying.

    "Just free flowing, but still dense vapor." - This is the HI.

    One thing i notice with the HI is that the element will be less powerfull over time. At least i don't combust as easily as i did before and i don't believe that i could justify that with better technique alone.
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  13. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for sharing.

    I also have a very early WW, I believe it's even some kind of prototype that Cookie did.

    This sounds awesome! I can't wait to get mine. I got on the list 9 months ago, should not take long now.

    That is strange, as far as I understood those heaters should last forever, or if they break they should just stop working altogether. When the heat gets less at any given voltage that implies the electrical resistance has changed. Unlikely, but possible I guess. Or maybe I'm missing something?
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  14. SpruceGruve

    SpruceGruve Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue

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    Who here has owned/used all/most of these log vapes?
    I would like to pm someone with alot of knowledge about log vapes and pick their brain.
  15. vorrange

    vorrange Well-Known Member

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    They are easy and cheap to replace but i haven't heard anyone say they last forever Dafni. Neither these ones neither any other element.

    I think the problem is these elements are a bit overworked in a log vape and they tend to shrink in size, especially if you go higher than 12V.

    There is a picture in the HI thread of an element where you can see it. It is from 1 year ago i
    think.

    Just so we understand what i'm saying, it continues to be one of the quickest vapes i own/owned extracting and it milks a tube like no other... but i don't combust as easily as i did when i first got it. After a couple months i noticed that, but it has remained the same ever since.
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  16. Madcap79

    Madcap79 Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    I have a PD, a Underdog, and a Nano. I'll have a HI when I get home from this trip. As of now, I find the Underdog to be least restrictive, followed by the Nano and then the PD. I'll report my HI findings as soon as I can. I hope to be home Thursday night or Friday. My HI arrives today! Wish I was home. Anyway, that's my experience so far.
  17. max

    max This space available Staff Member

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    No, they won't last forever, but I have never heard this complaint about this type of heater/resistor.
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  18. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    Did anyone mention that there is an all glass and a pinched version of the e nano stems and gongs? The pinched version has no glass screen (you insert a metal one over the hole to prevent your herb from falling through) and thus flows more freely. Not that either are restrictive IMO...
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  19. llamaman001

    llamaman001 Well-Known Member

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    Ive owned a PD and a nano. PD is like sucking up a thick ass milk shake through a tiny straw. E-nano is like drinking coke, a little restriction, but if you wanted you could still chug the whole drink.
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  20. Dafni

    Dafni Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, yeah, thanks nevertheless. Good thought, but I meant the restriction of the unit itself.
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  21. Madcap79

    Madcap79 Jack of all trades, master of none.

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    For those who care, the HI is the least restrictive. Followed by The Underdog, E-Nano, and PD in that order. The difference between the top three is minimal but the HI is the most free flowing imho. They are all my babies though. Haha.
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  22. weedemon

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    used a UD ad PD here. the UD is great. very little restriction.

    the PD on the other hand is super restricted.

    btw I think of hte solo as a portable log vape... it's not really. but it acts like one. albeit a tad more restricted than real log vapes(UD).
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  23. Caligula

    Caligula *results not typical.

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    Even with the PVHE attachments?
  24. weedemon

    weedemon enthusiast

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    yes I think so.
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  25. CentiZen

    CentiZen Evil Genius in Training Accessory Maker

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    As an owner of a Heat Island, Underdog and Purple Day, I'd say the Underdog is my choice out of the three. The airflow difference between the HI and UD are very small, but the UD has a larger thermal mass and does not cool down as fast as the HI does.
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