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Glass Symphony XLR

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by jojo monkey, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. jojo monkey

    jojo monkey Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    A quick "is my glass ok test": grab a ruler and put it over the joint on your bubbler going up to stand in for a glass symphony. You want your nose 4"/10cm or more away from that ruler. You also want a bubbler with a base of 4"/10cm or more.

    +1 for the FC-UFO. The base is 4"/10cm and you can use glass or a whip. When I use it the vape only moves 1" up to clear and that is it. No need for a stand with the fc-ufo (or it could be your stand). I swap out the bowls. IMO it is better to move a bowl over the glass symphony. Big movements tend to break things.

    I do recommend a few modification:
    change the hose for 1/2" ID tubing off amazon
    change the whip mouthpiece for the ssv whip mouthpiece
    change the glass mouthpiece for jhook + 45 degree m/m 18mm adapter

    so I really only use the hose adapter and the fc-ufo. He does sell them at a discount if you ask for him not to include his extras. The reason I changed the tubing and mp was to increase the airflow. The included MP is too close too (i have the v1). The jhook + 45 degree adapter puts it at a nice spot. Plus you can use the jhook by itself for very direct hits.

    I have some stand solutions on the way. I'm tying a few different routes like lazylathe said and will have some pics up next.
     
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  2. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    @jojo monkey, interesting advices and good tips....but what's the total height of the GS setup?
     
  3. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    It's right around 9 inches tall.

    EDIT:

    I am still in the experimenting stage and am working on finding my ideal temp.
    With my Flower Pot vape i can get even tan ABV in one milky hit, same as my herborizer Ti so the Glass Symphony should be able to do the same! I started at 950F and have been there for about a week. Not sure if the system is bedding in and stabilizing now after a few weeks of use but 950 is too hot now. Worked my way down to 900F and think i have found my ideal temp!
    One inhale, even tan abv, great taste and pretty good cloud density as well! No coughing at all!
    Effects are just as good, slightly less sedating which can be good!

    RDK200 set at 900 reads at 891F. Nice and stable and very little drop during a hit!
     
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  4. jojo monkey

    jojo monkey Well-Known Member Manufacturer

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    The last part is in. The 316 SS screens fit perfectly. I can say that the symphony uses a screen that is bigger than a US quarter and over 1". Herb can be nicely distributed for even heating. There is a little bubble in the shape that allows for herb to settle in the middle with a tap. The shape also makes it so the screen won't spin/wobble if you stir.

    here they are upside down next to a 18.8mm bowl:

    [​IMG]


    I'm playing with a few different stands. This is an off the shelf "lab burner tripod stand " with a 3" ID ring and is 6" high. I like how it sits in this - everything hot is inside the legs and 2" off the table. A little silicone tape on the joints and no glass would be touching the stand. The stand is under $20 shipped on ebay/amazon. There is a powder coated white one out there that is prob more ideal because the inner ring on this one is not entirely round, the leg ports add round spots to the circle.

    [​IMG]

    The GS beta is here! I'll write that up next.
     
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  5. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Good news, @jojo monkey.

    I think a very nice but little more expensive stand for the GS could be the brand new stand from Herborizer.

    Heavy, solid base with sex appeal - for sure a nice pairing with the GS if the joint would fit?
     
  6. StormyPinkness

    StormyPinkness Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

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    I actually don't have stand for my nail, whatever you come up with might be the first one I get.

    Also on a side note I would love to buy some of these if you sold them separately:
     
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  7. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Testing out my just arrived Magic Flight Finishing grinder with the Glass Symphony!
    What i thought was a fine grind out of my Kannastor Vape GR8TR with the fine plate is more like a coarse grind compared to the finishing grinder!

    So far the flavor has been perfect, clouds are copious and effects are nice and strong!

    All it takes is a pinch, loads are 0,05g to 0,1g as weighed on my PalmScale, and the onset is quick.
    Clouds are smaller with smaller loads but i find i get the most flavor this way and it is done in one breath!
    With 0,1g i usually need two inhales and the second is not so good. This is due to the area of the load being slightly wider than the air outlet, so 95% is done perfectly with a small green halo. A quick stir and a small cloud and done!
    So for me smaller loads all evenly done are working great!

    Just look at this post! It's all over the place!
    Back to testing....
     
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  8. Alexis

    Alexis Well-Known Member

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    You're only human Lazy! Can't be a perfect vaporizer reviewing immortal all the time!;)

    So you are saying it is the way the herb is so spread out and exposed, with heat going through every bit of it evenly, which makes for the complete and rapid one breath extraction. (I think.)

    Even load cooking is desirable, and so many top vaporizers still need interaction with the load, stirring and checking etc.

    It sounds (and looks) like you have this one hit extraction bang on.
    How does the hit compare to the Supreme, when used in the exact same way?
    I really wish Jojo great success with this. I would love to see it build a reputation for it's power alongside all others.

    Sorry if that is inappropriate anybody. Lazy you thought your post was bad? Well anytime you feel like that read one of my posts, that should make you feel better. I am pretty stoned I confess!
     
  9. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @Alexis

    When i was running it at 950F it was comparable to the S3.
    Rapid extraction, super dense vapor and clouds coming out your ears!

    I was lowering the temperature but i obviously love high temp hits, so back up i go to 925F this time.
    Everything is amazing at this temp!

    I honestly wish there was a member near me that could try this vape out!
    It really is insane. The fine grind seems to have opened it up even more now.

    I will get a video of the fine grind up on the weekend!

    EDIT:

    Is it the weekend yet?? LMAO!!
    Anyway here is the video!
    This was just over 0,1g, whatever was left for the last hit of the night.
    9 pound hammer indeed!
    Sorry for the long delay at the start, that was lung and mental prep for what was about to happen!

    Click to play YouTube Video
     
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  10. The Beagle

    The Beagle Bubbles & Bags

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    The LabVap!
     
  11. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    Ok finally sent payment. I will be comparing this to my ti and deciding which to keep :)
     
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  12. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    YES!!! Finally another GS is being let loose into the world!
     
  13. StormyPinkness

    StormyPinkness Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

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    I'm really interested in this one. I'm going to check out all the videos when I get home from work. Price is right too, hoping this will be my first flower... I guess it's not a nail. Sorry, not sure what the term is besides vape, I'm still reading through this. Anyways, I'd love to grab an awesome vape and support an fc'er at the same time.
     
  14. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    I am not sure what it is about the Glass Symphony that gets me more medicated than my other devices.
    I also know this is very subjective so please remember this is all IMO.

    When i use a vape for a night i usually stick with it and have 2 sessions, usually the second session is mediocre and more just a top up and some quiet time before bed.
    Not so with the GS... It's back to sweating, ears ringing and that tingly, wobbly feeling...

    @Zow237 and i have been discussing it in PM secretly..LOL!
    He suggested it was the mass and i totally agree! We have a large mass of super heated glass a mere inch from our herb. A hit may drop the temp by 1 to 2F, which is nothing in the big picture!
    Take as big a hit as you can, the GS will always win.
    Small loads done in one breath at high temp is where i live!
    Get the load just right and it is amazing! Need a second hit? No worries, the flavor is still there!
    And then there are the clouds... Just as dense on the exhale than on the inhale! Insane!

    I started out low and enjoyed the flavor train, always easily accessible!
    Now i ride the upper limit all the time!
    Why not since i get amazing flavor, insane clouds and repeatable sessions every day.
    As a daily medical user this has opened it all up for me again! Glass purity all the way.
    I have to add that it pairs perfectly with my WT which helps a lot!
    My recommendation for a vape WT is medium to large can with a simple 12 to 15 hole diffuser stem! Simple and it keeps all the flavor!
    I digress again... The Alien OG is kicking in...

    Cannot wait for @Zow237 impressions!
     
  15. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    @lazylathe hoping it will magically show up tomorrow. I'm a daily user as well and it's hard for me to get medicated to where I want more than once a day with these heavy hitters. Gs seems to b right on the dot for what I've been looking for. Grabbed an oz of apollo 13 shake for 55 bux so I can do lots of testing hahah. While I wait I must go rip my herbo :) super excited for this vape and looking forward to giving my feedback and videos
     
  16. StormyPinkness

    StormyPinkness Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

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    Loved the youtube videos I watched last night. @jojo monkey I currently have a dhgate pid/controller and not an auber, would this work with it? Am I able to buy this right now? I'm not 100% sure what the status is. Beta or pre-production or whatever.

    I love the see through bowl and watching it shrink and turn brown and kind of puff back up again. After checking out his symphony ones I ended up binge watching a ton of @lazylathe's videos.
     
  17. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    As long as you have a 5 pin xlr pid :) you are good
     
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  18. stickstones

    stickstones Vapor concierge

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    This is looking like it is entering Supreme area with its massive heat transfer qualities. Any thoughts, @lazylathe ?
     
  19. grokit

    grokit well-worn member

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    Unless it's from newvape... they have good stuff at a good price, but his wiring is non-typical.

    I'm not an expert but it seems there's a standard (dhgate/d-nail), and there's some deviations.

    I'm not sure if auber conforms to this 'standard' or not.

    :science:
     
  20. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    The S3 is a great vape but not very consistent due to the way it is heated and that the heat is removed when hitting. Due to it's varied way of using it, there are too many variables in place to really compare them. The S3 is convection/conduction/radiant heat while the GS is pure convection and has a massive heat sink that is always maintained at the set temp and is far away from the load.

    The bowl of the GS does not really get hot at all even after extended use because the hot air travels up and never to the bowl unless you are inhaling. The one breath per load works so well that my bowl only gets slightly warm during use, a heat soak is a waste of time.

    I tried the S3 last night in conjunction with the GS and much prefer the GS.
    5 minute heat up and you are good to go for hours, days, weeks etc...

    Also wanted to add that i forgot my GS on the other night... It sat at 935F for at least 12 hours with no negative effects, not recommending this be done too many times or at all!

    The RDK300 with timer may be required for this beast!
     
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  21. Alexis

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    Always such excellentl and helpful info Lazy, breaking it down for us (dummies) all in the easiest terms!
    I do look forward to when @biohacker has finally seen his break through and visits you for some testing of all these new top vapes. Will be very interesting to hear his impressions and in relation to the Supreme (which we all know how much he loves! :love:;))

    @biohacker I see you have been taking a nice timeout from fc, and I really hope everthing is going well. I am thinking of you bro anyway. I really want to pm you but Im all or nothing and we could talk forever. It kills me having so much to say but being so limited by typing etc. We are on a level though for sure, we need to develop our psychic abilities next (as a race), this is the next step anyway for us all when we get around to it.
    Anyway, really hope you are alright dude whenever you see this.:tup:


    Back to the Symphony. Only one person so far has reported on using (except Jojo), and I can see clearly that this vaporizer is going to TAKE OFF very quickly and slot right in there amongst the competion. Very well done @jojo monkey and the best of luck. I will be in touch when the time is right for me.

    This shows the solidity of the vape design, and also of your own character @lazylathe and your methodology for testing and reviewing each model. You have done more than get the ball rolling for Jojo!

    Have a top weekend all.:)
     
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  22. virtualpurple

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    @jojo monkey you are making me drool my friend.

    This thing seems like a real powerhouse. I just love the idea of watching my herb cook in front of me.
     
  23. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Saturdays are what is commonly called ShatterDay at my house!
    I usually start the day off with a wake and bake using my Errlectric with Ti nail and Quartz dish.
    A few dabs to start the day off right!

    Since i am in testing with the Glass Symphony, i decided to see what it can do with concentrates.
    Using my smaller RooR bowl i added a dab onto a Herbalizer Oil Pad and dropped it into the bowl.
    It sits perfectly centered.
    I raised the temp to 965F and hit it... OMG!! The flavor was crazy intense but not too much vapor was being produced. It takes a few hits to vaporize the concentrate and the clouds to get a bit better but nowhere near enail size.

    I tried this after the earlier post and after 6 hours i am starting to feel normal again!
    I was so high, not medicated but high as a kite for about 3 hours... Mowed the lawn, painted the ceiling, hung up light fixtures and mopped floors... Now i am tired!

    The GS is warming up now and i will be super interested to see what effects it has on me now after 3 dabs this morning and going back to flower now!
    Will report back later!

    EDIT:
    Yes it still medicates me like no other even after starting with rosin...
    Holy moly!
    Going to watch the new Mummy movie now!
     
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  24. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    A lazy Sunday afternoon spent with the Glass Symphony can only be good!
    Lowered the temp to 920F and was having awesome sessions!
    Vapor is not as dense but the flavor and terps are crazy!

    Had to make a video to gain more interest!!
    Here is a large load for me in the GS, about 0,1g of C-Weed a 70% Texada strain grown outdoors.
    Very tasty and very potent and cheap as chips! LOL!!
    And the Glass Symphony makes it taste almost as good as my more expensive strains!

    Click to play YouTube Video


    The Glass Symphony is quickly becoming my "Go To" vape.
    @jojo monkey This vape is amazing! I think i am finally happy!
    Now if only i could find a herb grinder with a consistent fine grind...
     
  25. Zow237

    Zow237 Well-Known Member

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    Love it! I honestly have had a dream about the gs two days in a row! Haha why isn't it Monday. Honestly contemplating on selling my fp and herbo just because I'm confident this device is what I've been looking for :)
     
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