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Discussion in 'Concentrates' started by chronickiller7, Oct 14, 2013.

  1. chronickiller7

    chronickiller7 Active Member

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    Hey guys. So I will be doing my first bho run next weekend and have done a lot or research. But I saw some videos where people test their bho by lighting it and seeing if it melts (good) or burns and sparkles (bad). I'm only running a quarter using a steel turkey baster. How long should I let I sit on a hot bath to purge it to its full potential. I don't have access to a vac purge. Should I make one with a break fluid hand pump? Or is it not necessary? Can someone help me because I don't want to waste a quarter and especially don't want to risk my health.
     
  2. exhaleclouds

    exhaleclouds floatin' with the clouds

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    Id honestly recommend to stay away from bho unless you know a vacuum is involved. In my experience un-vac'd bho is horribly taney. Give a try at iso hash. Far safer with the equipment you already own.
     
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  3. lwien

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    So I'm having a colonoscopy on Wednesday, saw the title of this thread and immediately thought, "Oh goody, someone else going through the same shit (pardon the play on words)", but alas................nope.
     
  4. poonman

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    This is the Holy Grail for what you want .
    Here you go ;
    http://skunkpharmresearch.com/bho-extraction/

    Scroll down a little and it has the purging section .
    Hope that helps .
     
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  5. chronickiller7

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    Would a vacuum container (meant for coffee) and a break fluid pump work? Also I've made qwiso but I like bho more.
     
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  6. tepictoton

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    Personally I have thrown out the vac...I just spray directly into a layer of 95%grain alcohol and then evap the alcohol.

    This way I get glass/shatter like consistency concentrate. Within a few hours!

    Trick is to do small runs in the biggest pyrex dish you can find, in order for it to stay like a thin film so that one can easily evap the alcohol...

    I can light my concentrate, will bubble(the alcohol has 5%water in it) but not sparkle nor burn...

    Before with a deep vac pump and excicator and all it took me hours, sometimes a full day, to clean out the butane and then sometimes it would still turn into budder after a week or two...:2c:
     
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  7. deadheadbill

    deadheadbill I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...

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    You could blast directly into 99% iso if everclear was not available.
     
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  8. poonman

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    :doh::doh::doh:
    I will be doing that from now on .
     
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  9. chronickiller7

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    I can very easily get 99% iso but if 180 proof everclear will be better for the end product, I will get it. But if I blast directly into the dish with a little alcohol, can I still sit the oil pan on top of a hot water dish?

    Oh and when you say a small run; I will be doing either a quarter or half when I do my batches. I'm probably not going to run all my buds. I wanna keep some buds and some oil. Like an eight of buds and a gram of oil. Should last me a while. And then I'd use my pax for flowers, and some kind of oil pen ( I was thinking a Gentleman's glass globe with a battery) for oil.

    Also if I do this specific method, how long would it take, from start to putting the oil away into a container. That's a big factor in when I can do this.
     
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  10. 420time

    420time Well-Known Member

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    sir if you really want a glass glove pen. just google it. much cheaper, gentlemans stuff is just rebranded products.
     
  11. tepictoton

    tepictoton Well-Known Member

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    I definately prefer everclear over ISO...correct me if I am wrong, but I believe inhaling fumes from ISO is toxic...so you better make sure that one is fully purged...:2c:
     
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  12. chronickiller7

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    If that's the case, I'll just get the everclear.

    And what glass dome vape is cheaper than the gentlemans but same quality? (Really just looking for a high quality bho vape that I can use discretely.
     
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  13. Patrick Hughes

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    I have to do two colonoscopies per year. Chasing laxatives with a gallon of salt water? thanks alot, God. Sorry for yer troubles
     
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  14. lwien

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    Twice a year? Damn........sorry. :(

    Mine is done. No polyps. Just a few "blue blebs". Being that it is now recommended that people over 75 don't need a colonoscopy after the age of 75 if they've had normal scopes previously, I think I'm done with having to do another being that I'm now 69. This was my first.
     
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  15. Patrick Hughes

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    Congratulations on the good news! I'm 34, but I have Crohn's disease. Honey helps.
     
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  16. matthend

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    tepic, does it affect the flavor spraying into everclear? I am dying to try this out, but what i have now is so tasty it makes me nervous
     
  17. tepictoton

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    Well the jury is still out on that one :-)

    In any ways it is hard to distinguish between the once I spraid into grain alcohol(guessing this is the same as everclear?) and he once I did not. But keep in mind I am in no way a vet with these things...It might be handy to see if some more experienced members might chime in.

    I know the spraying into everclear has been discussed before, but some people will still say, if it is not vac purged it will be no good. If those people would try this technique, they would for sure notice that there is an interesting interaction between the butane and the alcohol. I only get little bubbles from the tane, leaving a runny end product that does not bubble at all anymore in a hot water bath(+-65C).

    I then leave it in the hot water bath for at least two hours, from time to time checking to make sure the layer of oil is spread out as much as possible aka forms a thin layer. As long as alcohol is left in it you will smell it. Another way I think to see if you bathed it enough is letting it cool down and check the concistency...if it is at room temp and crackles like glass then you know you have done a proper job.

    Again, these are just my own experiences and I am far from a vet, but I have yet to encounter evidence of this method being any help hazard...

    Was thinking I might just try winterizing it next time straigth after the tane is gone...that will however strip some of the flavour off...
     
  18. poonman

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    I went to my liquor store and asked about the Bacardi 151 %
    proof brand . And the clerk told me that the actual alcohol content
    on the ' Overproof ' liquor is halved the number shown on the label . ie 151 % is actually 75.5 % alcohol content .
    So I'm just wondering about the strength of the everclear at 180?
    Is it actually 90 % alcohol content ? idk

    I've seen them extracting the bho right onto a plate in warm bath to speed the process . I also like the concoction brewing when the bho mixes with the iso . It's like a magical witch's brew dancing in front of you . I've only seen it on vids , I want to try it tho .
     
  19. MacRadish

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    190-proof (95% ABV). They're all labeled like that, half the proof is the alcohol content.

    "In the United States, alcoholic proof is defined as twice the percentage of ABV (alcohol by volume)."
     
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  20. chronickiller7

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    So I did a run today. I don't know what to say. It didn't yield as much as I thought. And I should've done a couple things differently.

    I ran about a quarter and this is what I got. I should've had a hot plate under the boiling water. Would've helped a lot. And a better scraper. And I used I sstb. But I saw a honey bee extractor at my lhs. Should I pick one up?
     
  21. chronickiller7

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    How do I post a pic? Oh and I saw the cloud vape version 2 at my lhs. Any reviews?
     
  22. Patrick Hughes

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  23. z9

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    Nearly everything Tepictoton has said is consistent with my experience; he mentioned some very good advice. The only difference being that I do a mason jar soak because I broke my extraction tube. Regardless I get shatter every time that has yet to fail the purge test.

    IMO spraying into iso seems to kill most of the oil's odor and takes away from the flavor, but I haven't gotten to try everclear for comparison... shit's illegal in my state. I've made enough QWISO that I have no fear of using iso to purge my concentrates since I know that I can get rid of any taste or smell. As far as health is concerned consuming small amounts of iso orally is safe but I don't know how dangerous the trace amounts of iso in the oil via inhalation. Would the heat affect this? I don't seem to be suffering from using iso but then again I don't consume a lot of concentrates.
     
  24. poonman

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    Here's how to post pics .
    http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/

    Do you mean the Cloud/Evo ?
    I thought they were still beta testing it , at least that's what they're saying on the Cloud thread .

    tia
     
  25. chronickiller7

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    Well more importantly, my yield is really low. Like .2. Can someone point me towards a bho or some kind of hash oil (to use in a vape pen) tutorial that goes step by step detailed either with pics or a video? I really need details. I want to make good, healthy oil for whatever vape pen I get. I mean if I could yield a gram per quarter, I'd be happy.
     

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