fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
Hahahahahaha. That exists? Especially once you're married?
Fuck the Parkinson's, the Dr just gave me a reason to smoke MORE!
- Thread starter mvapes
- Start date
Things just change.
fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
Does that ever include logic? Especially logic over emotion?
Couples become lazy.
fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
Lazy I can do.
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
I call bullshit on the above several posts. Couples don't have to become lazy. I've been married 36 years and we aren't "lazy" yet. The only people that become lazy are people that were lazy to begin with. Or people who shouldn't have been married to begin with. 
There's no excuse to stop trying in a relationship.
Sometimes people need time to reflect on a big decision. I'm sure mvapes' wife spoke from the gut, after a long day of taking care of the kids. Give her a chance guys. She's been a brick through this whole thing with him.
On another note, that is wonderful news mvapes!!!!!
There's no excuse to stop trying in a relationship.
Sometimes people need time to reflect on a big decision. I'm sure mvapes' wife spoke from the gut, after a long day of taking care of the kids. Give her a chance guys. She's been a brick through this whole thing with him.
On another note, that is wonderful news mvapes!!!!!
I dunno, I think couples can become lazy during the course of a hectic life. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be married to begin with. Being lazy doesn't mean you stop trying...just don't try as hard as you used to.
Either way, Mvapes wife looks like a wonderful woman. I am sure they will sort it out.
Either way, Mvapes wife looks like a wonderful woman. I am sure they will sort it out.
fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
Mom, I hear what you are saying. I know my wife and I have a lot to learn still. We're only just coming up to our 8th anniversary this October. We're both pretty lazy with a lot of things except our relationship. We know to work on that and we are happy to do it. Just from my experience, logic isn't always a winner in many arguments, my own or ones I hear about. That's why I was hopeful that might change with age.
Mvapes, I would imagine being faced with the option of moving would be a bit of a shock for your wife. Especially if she is happily settled there and if it wouldn't be the first move. Give her time, I imagine this all is a lot for her to process too.
Mvapes, I would imagine being faced with the option of moving would be a bit of a shock for your wife. Especially if she is happily settled there and if it wouldn't be the first move. Give her time, I imagine this all is a lot for her to process too.
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
Look... I'm not saying my marriage is perfect. What I am saying is that it is something that flows naturally, yet needs to be worked on every day. There are times when the focus will be on one or the other. There are times when the focus will be on neither due to kids or work situations. But the important thing is to put yourself, not second, but equally in a relationship. It's about respect.
When my husband and I were married, we used the Kalil Gibhran verse on marriage:
In other words, retain your independence, while depending on each other to become strong. And, after being together for over 40 years, it's worked so far.
When my husband and I were married, we used the Kalil Gibhran verse on marriage:
In other words, retain your independence, while depending on each other to become strong. And, after being together for over 40 years, it's worked so far.
HOW MIGHT PARKINSON’S AFFECT DYSTONIA?
It can affect people of all ages, but for people with Parkinson’s, dystonia is more common when the onset of the disease was at a young age. It tends to develop gradually, and may worsen as the condition progresses. The side of the person where Parkinson’s symptoms are more pronounced is usually most affected. However, dystonia can be experienced in more than one part of the body. In fact, when the onset of Parkinson’s is after the age of around 40, dystonia usually remains focal, affecting a single area of the body. But when onset of Parkinson’s is young, dystonia is likely to affect a number of parts of the body, or become generalised (where most of the body is affected).
People with Parkinson’s mainly experience dystonia in their feet. Typically the toes curl up into a claw-like position, the foot turns inwards at the ankle, and occasionally the big toe sticks up. This position, caused by spasms in the calf muscles, can be very uncomfortable and makes it hard to fit feet into tight shoes.
Sustained dystonic spasms cause varying degrees of pain, from mild to severe, and sometimes such spasms are mistaken for the muscle cramps that result from Rigidity and Bradykinesia in Parkinson’s.
Less commonly, dystonia may appear as:
On-dystonia can also occur when levodopa reaches its peak of effectiveness and there is too much Dopamine in the brain, as this over-stimulates the muscles and causes spasms.
Another article....
SYDNEY -- Smoking cannabis appeared to reduce tremor and pain and improve sleep among Parkinson's disease patients, researchers from Israel reported here.
Overall, patients' scores on the standard Unified Parkinson's Disease Rating Scale (UPDRS) averaged 33 before they smoked cannabis in the laboratory and averaged 24 after 30 minutes (P<0.01), Ruth Djaldetti, MD, of Tel Aviv University Israel, reported at her poster presentation at the International Congress on Parkinson's Disease and Movement Disorders.
"We not only saw improvement in tremor in these patients, but also in rigidity and in bradykinesia," Djaldetti told MedPage Today. "I would recommend use of marijuana to my patients as a last resort if nothing else was working for them or if they had pain."
Medical marijuana is legal in Israel for the treatment of Parkinson's disease, Djaldetti explained. "All of these 20 patients were cannabis users before we studied them. They were tested before they smoked cannabis in the clinic and then they were tested 30 minutes after smoking." The patients were about 66 years of age and had been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease for a mean of 7.5 years.
Prior to smoking, the 20 patients had an average score of 7.5 in the tremor domain of the UPDRS, but after 30 minutes following smoking the average tremor score declined to 3.5 (P<0.001), she said. The rigidity score declined from 7.4 to 6.4 (P=0.007). The bradykinesia score declined from an average of 13.2 to an average of 8.6 (P<0.001).
"There had been reported marked reductions in the Israeli media about the ability of marijuana to reduce tremor," Djaldetti said. "We saw a reduction in tremor but it was less dramatic in our clinic than on television. The patients told us that the beneficial effect of cannabis smoking lasts for about 2 to 3 hours."
Since 1996, when Californians approved medical marijuana, 17 other states and the District of Columbia have also approved its use. It is still illegal under federal law, although the Obama Administration has signaled that enforcement of the federal ban in states that have legalized it is not a government priority. It is legal for medical use in Canada and in many other countries.
Karin Gmitterova, MD, assistant professor of neurology at the University of Bratislava in Slovakia, told MedPage Today, "There is a community of patients that shares their experiences in using alternative forms of medication ... They are more experienced with cannabis smoking in the Czech Republic and patients report that is can be helpful."
"It won't replace levodopa, of course," continued Gmitterova, who did not participate in the study. However, "The reduction in the UPDRS score that we see here is not only statistically significant but this is clinically important as well."
"When doctors can't help patients, they will find other methods of treatment through word of mouth or the Internet or from family members or friends," he added.
Djaldetti said that the researchers "were more taken with the improvements in rigidity and bradykinesia. On cannabis they were able to improve their fine motor skills. We did not see an improvement in gait and posture. I doubt that increasing the size of this study would result in a significant finding for gait or posture."
In addition, all of the patients in the study were already on medications for pain relief but those therapies were not providing the relief required, she noted. "We saw a dramatic reduction in pain in our patients and in their ability to sleep. When their pain was reduced, they slept better."
It can affect people of all ages, but for people with Parkinson’s, dystonia is more common when the onset of the disease was at a young age. It tends to develop gradually, and may worsen as the condition progresses. The side of the person where Parkinson’s symptoms are more pronounced is usually most affected. However, dystonia can be experienced in more than one part of the body. In fact, when the onset of Parkinson’s is after the age of around 40, dystonia usually remains focal, affecting a single area of the body. But when onset of Parkinson’s is young, dystonia is likely to affect a number of parts of the body, or become generalised (where most of the body is affected).
People with Parkinson’s mainly experience dystonia in their feet. Typically the toes curl up into a claw-like position, the foot turns inwards at the ankle, and occasionally the big toe sticks up. This position, caused by spasms in the calf muscles, can be very uncomfortable and makes it hard to fit feet into tight shoes.
Sustained dystonic spasms cause varying degrees of pain, from mild to severe, and sometimes such spasms are mistaken for the muscle cramps that result from Rigidity and Bradykinesia in Parkinson’s.
Less commonly, dystonia may appear as:
- ‘writer’s cramp’ in the hands (a type of focal dystonia) which only occurs during handwriting
- cervical dystonia (spasmodic torticollis) affecting the neck muscles, which causes the head to twist to one side, forwards or occasionally backwards
- Blepharospasm in which the eyelid muscles contract and makes the eye close involuntarily. this is often experienced as excessive blinking, intolerance to light, a burning feeling in the eye or irritation
- spasmodicor laryngea dystonia affecting the vocal chords or speech muscles causing strained and difficult speaking
- oromandibular dystonia affecting the jaw area, tongue, mouth or one side of the face. The jaw may be pulled either open or shut, and speech and swallowing can be difficult.
On-dystonia can also occur when levodopa reaches its peak of effectiveness and there is too much Dopamine in the brain, as this over-stimulates the muscles and causes spasms.
Another article....
SYDNEY -- Smoking cannabis appeared to reduce tremor and pain and improve sleep among Parkinson's disease patients, researchers from Israel reported here.
Overall, patients' scores on the standard Unified Parkinson's Disease Rating Scale (UPDRS) averaged 33 before they smoked cannabis in the laboratory and averaged 24 after 30 minutes (P<0.01), Ruth Djaldetti, MD, of Tel Aviv University Israel, reported at her poster presentation at the International Congress on Parkinson's Disease and Movement Disorders.
"We not only saw improvement in tremor in these patients, but also in rigidity and in bradykinesia," Djaldetti told MedPage Today. "I would recommend use of marijuana to my patients as a last resort if nothing else was working for them or if they had pain."
Medical marijuana is legal in Israel for the treatment of Parkinson's disease, Djaldetti explained. "All of these 20 patients were cannabis users before we studied them. They were tested before they smoked cannabis in the clinic and then they were tested 30 minutes after smoking." The patients were about 66 years of age and had been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease for a mean of 7.5 years.
Prior to smoking, the 20 patients had an average score of 7.5 in the tremor domain of the UPDRS, but after 30 minutes following smoking the average tremor score declined to 3.5 (P<0.001), she said. The rigidity score declined from 7.4 to 6.4 (P=0.007). The bradykinesia score declined from an average of 13.2 to an average of 8.6 (P<0.001).
"There had been reported marked reductions in the Israeli media about the ability of marijuana to reduce tremor," Djaldetti said. "We saw a reduction in tremor but it was less dramatic in our clinic than on television. The patients told us that the beneficial effect of cannabis smoking lasts for about 2 to 3 hours."
Since 1996, when Californians approved medical marijuana, 17 other states and the District of Columbia have also approved its use. It is still illegal under federal law, although the Obama Administration has signaled that enforcement of the federal ban in states that have legalized it is not a government priority. It is legal for medical use in Canada and in many other countries.
Karin Gmitterova, MD, assistant professor of neurology at the University of Bratislava in Slovakia, told MedPage Today, "There is a community of patients that shares their experiences in using alternative forms of medication ... They are more experienced with cannabis smoking in the Czech Republic and patients report that is can be helpful."
"It won't replace levodopa, of course," continued Gmitterova, who did not participate in the study. However, "The reduction in the UPDRS score that we see here is not only statistically significant but this is clinically important as well."
"When doctors can't help patients, they will find other methods of treatment through word of mouth or the Internet or from family members or friends," he added.
Djaldetti said that the researchers "were more taken with the improvements in rigidity and bradykinesia. On cannabis they were able to improve their fine motor skills. We did not see an improvement in gait and posture. I doubt that increasing the size of this study would result in a significant finding for gait or posture."
In addition, all of the patients in the study were already on medications for pain relief but those therapies were not providing the relief required, she noted. "We saw a dramatic reduction in pain in our patients and in their ability to sleep. When their pain was reduced, they slept better."
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I agree. It really does help people to understand a little bit better.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Not the first time, wont be the last. M . . . sometimes its hard for the healthy ones to "get it" I still struggle with this. The nature of disability and pain is so personal, and earth shattering, that its tough to convey the experience to anyone.
Giving her a long, uninteresting (to her) reading list may not be a helpful approach.
Wurd . . .
Dreamerr
Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Now I know what one of the things I have is called hehe. I never care to look shit up anymore. I was told they were spasms and that was ok. I learned later on that there are different types but didn't care enough to commit it to memory.
Seriously show her the spoon story or better yet look in her eyes and tell it to her.
Edit: Most of my fights with my son is because I need help and he can't understand why I can't do all my shit and his.
Seriously show her the spoon story or better yet look in her eyes and tell it to her.
Edit: Most of my fights with my son is because I need help and he can't understand why I can't do all my shit and his.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
tweeky . . . you can't medicate marital challenges under the rug . . .When faced with adversity, just pack another bowl and fog up a room.
No, but you can soften the rage.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
It's kind of funny how some things don't change .
After a huge Rain followed by a bright , hot day here in my "pretty much hometown" fondly called the Abyss .
Small groups of 13-16 year olds still wander the streets tripping their balls off on Shrooms and walk in a world of awe and wonder . (then stop and ask a random old guy for a cigarette and water)
Same thing I would of been doing 40 years ago on a day like today .
(or night like tonight )
After a huge Rain followed by a bright , hot day here in my "pretty much hometown" fondly called the Abyss .
Small groups of 13-16 year olds still wander the streets tripping their balls off on Shrooms and walk in a world of awe and wonder . (then stop and ask a random old guy for a cigarette and water)
Same thing I would of been doing 40 years ago on a day like today .
(or night like tonight )
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dorkus_molorkus
Well-Known Member
I found out why our milk tasted sour!
No funny comments boy's - that's my daughter....
This is obviously some sort of challenge.
A) the kid is far too good looking to be yours. for example- she has all her hair & no beard?
WTF?
B) clearly she is the milkmans daughter, hence the hat and the smug 'fuck you! my real daddy slings milk.' look on her face.
C) your wife knows she's the milkmans kid, fucken Duhhhhh?? now you know why she dont wanna move?
D) The milkman fucken knows for sure!! thats why your milk is sour.
Now dont be upset. I can see the kid is much more intelligent than you, its a good thing you get to pass such beauty & intellect as your own!
Roll with it man!
ok, it should be bright and early tomorrow morning in Aussie-Land right now so I am going to issue a summons for the Molorkus since he hasn't been spotted in a bit. Calling @dorkus_molorkus !!!
Bless all you kids for noticing.
Fuck you to the rest.
Woops wrong thread, right??
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