Dynavap VapCap
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Alegre
Pobre payaso
@Alegre that must be nice, my M has me waiting like
I imagine living that close could be dangerous though
It's worth the wait! It would be nice to stop by Dynavap for a tour one of these days. I can get to their place in like 3 hours.
You're welcome! Hope you get it soon!
Hopefully they won't fuck up the remake like they so often do.
So I've been using my M exclusively since I got it, and I'm really starting to get to know it better. The more I use this vape, the more I'm liking the thermal properties of the SS tip. It really seems to vape the load slower and more evenly. Seems way harder to char/combust with it compared to my Ti tip. It helps to make the sessions last a little longer, while preserving the flavor over more heat cycles. I know I said I still prefer my Ti woody, but man is this thing giving it a run for its money!
I'm diggin' it!
I'm diggin' it!
ClearBlueLou
unbearably light in the being....
Seven days
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I agree, compared to the glass model which heats up pretty fast, and I have combusted many times now (my glass bowl stained black the first time that happened) where as with the M it takes longer for the heat to saturate and I have not had the same trouble overheating it. I still tend to use the glass model more frequently here at the house, but for out and about it's the M all the way, I've also been letting my man hit the M with some bubble hash layered in there, he hasn't overheated it yet either. I can see how the extra mass is helping keep the heat more even, and slower to fade as well. I can sometimes pull 3 good hits between clicks once the M is warmed up.So I've been using my M exclusively since I got it, and I'm really starting to get to know it better. The more I use this vape, the more I'm liking the thermal properties of the SS tip. It really seems to vape the load slower and more evenly. Seems way harder to char/combust with it compared to my Ti tip. It helps to make the sessions last a little longer, while preserving the flavor over more heat cycles. I know I said I still prefer my Ti woody, but man is this thing giving it a run for its money!
I'm diggin' it!
Smoke420
Well-Known Member
Hello everyone, I got the M on Monday and am really liking how it works. This forum in general has some great information and some great contributors.
I have a question about getting good flavor from The M, I seem to get a toasty vapor flavor almost nutty, but not the same as smoking a green bowl. I have tried 3 different strains and they all taste the same. I am using a single torch lighter (going to get a triple) it works great but I think its getting hotter than I need.
I have read that torching it long enough but before it clicks its the way to get flavor...but is that the only way?
Do 3 torch lighters work better for flavor since it takes less time to reach temp?
Also is the default positions of the 2 o-rings the best, and what would adjusting them do if anything?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I have a question about getting good flavor from The M, I seem to get a toasty vapor flavor almost nutty, but not the same as smoking a green bowl. I have tried 3 different strains and they all taste the same. I am using a single torch lighter (going to get a triple) it works great but I think its getting hotter than I need.
I have read that torching it long enough but before it clicks its the way to get flavor...but is that the only way?
Do 3 torch lighters work better for flavor since it takes less time to reach temp?
Also is the default positions of the 2 o-rings the best, and what would adjusting them do if anything?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
@Smoke420 Basically you can say the more you heat the cap towards the body the higher it will heat up.
The more you heat it towards the end of the cap the lower the temperature will be inside the bowl.
This is because when you are far away from the top of the cap you will need to heat longer before the disc in the cap will reach the temperature to make the click.
When you heat the cap directly at the top the disc will reach the temperature faster and the bowl won't be so hot.
The more you heat it towards the end of the cap the lower the temperature will be inside the bowl.
This is because when you are far away from the top of the cap you will need to heat longer before the disc in the cap will reach the temperature to make the click.
When you heat the cap directly at the top the disc will reach the temperature faster and the bowl won't be so hot.
I believe a multiple jet torch, especially a triple inline with the 3 flames lining up along the cap, and therefore heating the entire length of the cap,,including near the top, will cause an earlier click, before the tip and the inside of the bowl has reached a higher temperature.
This can result in lower temp vapor,,and hence a better flavor.
Similarly, a quad torch gets the cap itself up to heat and to click faster than a single, which, depending where you aim the single flame, can bring the bowl and load to a higher heat before the cap tip (clicker end ) reaches the necessary heat to click.
This will especialy be the case if you concentrate the single jet on the lower part of the cap.
With a single jet,,the advice for lower temp extraction, better flavor, and slower extraction,,with more heating cycles, is to only heatbthe bottom of the cap on the first cycle (if at all), and maybe not even right up until the click- before the click comes, it may be wise to move the flame up towards the middle.
Or you could just avoid heating the bottom of the cap entirely,,with a single jet, as the heat takes longer to reach the clicker end. This is how many use the vapcap for a virtual "one hit extraction."
My preferred method with a single jet is to heat bang in the middle of the cap.
For me this is a perfect balance between clouds, and getting 3 good hits per full bowl,,and maintaining reasonable flavor throughout.
This way, a fourth heat cycle from a full bowl is rarely necessary, and will taste unpleasant.
Or you can heat the middle for a while and then move up towards the tip before the click occurs. This will bring a faster click, and the lower temp vapor you want to get better flavor.
That's awsome you are enjoying the vapcap already! Happy campers is what we want!
MrMonss
Well-Known Member
My package arrived today !! Sent on April 5, received on the 12th in France.
A small mistake, the CCD grids are missing, but I had some few O-ring in addition, maybe an inversion.. Very happy to be able to test this.
Mine CCD sets were missing too .
But no extra O-rings found inside the envelope !
Emailed DynaVap and George told me that he would look into it and send me the sets.
I do not blame them ,though!Mistakes are made for and by humans.
And those mistakes are usually made because of the fury to satisfy every customer .
Thus ,they can be considered as some short of side-effects from trying to benefit
and give joy to as many people as possible ,at short notice !
Nothing unusual ,I dare to say .
But ,I also think that they should be noted ,
so the Dynavap team to be aware of them .
And evolve .
"The good becomes even better and better ,if the ultimate goal is to become the best."
And from what i've learned so far ,the folks at Dynavap ,evolve exactly this way!
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exime
Well-Known Member
I ordered on a Monday and it shipped out on a Thursday so about 3 days.
GeeWhiz
Well-Known Member
I saw that you guys mentioned that however mine will "NOT" do that. no matter where the condenser is placed it is not closed off. I am not sure who to fix that. Must be a manufacturing error or something. I have to cover the carb to get it to draw and produce vapor.
bounce5
Well-Known Member
I noticed this issue. I don't yet fully understand the Omni. I found a solution though. I just closed the carb completely by adding a SS condenser O-ring to it. I placed it on the condenser between the tip where you heat and the carb hole. Luckily, I bought extras for my "M".
GeeWhiz
Well-Known Member
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I only continued beyond a first click because I was experimenting with no load and wanted to see if mine ever does 2 clicks. Forgot to mention that. Cannot ever get a second click and sometimes no first click.
With a precious load I would have stopped immediately at one click
I don't dare try another precious load yet, until I get things better dialed in. Will keep working at it. The clicks just seem so damn inconsistent and I swear, sometimes non-existent.
Sounds like a faulty cap. I would simply request one from Dynavap. At the most they would probably make you pay shipping but maybe not even that. You have done due dilligence to make it work and it appears the consensus here is that something is not working right. BTW I ran a test on all three caps I have on the same body and they all perform just a pinch different and one seems really late on the click like it nearly combusts if I wait for a click so I usually draw early.
Here is what I would do while your waiting for a new cap. get a torch that can stand on its own and remain on. test with a steady roll or rock and roll as some have said and count till you hear that faint click. try it two or three times. When you got it down about how long it takes. Take like two tiny nuggets off one bud and put them in the chamber. Heat to I second before you click time and take a hit. If you do not get great vapor especially on the second round (remember the second round will only require a few seconds) you will get a vapor cloud. That is my advice and prediction.
Squiby
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As others have mentioned above, WHERE you apply heat on the cap determines the temperature of the bowl and therefore the flavour.
I also want to make a comment in relation to the various lighters. Flavour can be achieved with any lighter. To me, the difference is in the subtly of technique.
A quad, triple or even a double jet lighters will cover a greater portion of the cap. So, targeting a range is easier. It's a matter of choosing either the bottom half, middle or top half of the cap to heat and then aim, while twirling the Vapcap in your other hand.
The single jet requires a bit more dexterity, but if done well can achieve wonderful dialed in results. The single jet heats more slowly since it has only one jet, but also because that jet has more area to cover. Aim the jet at your chosen cap area and move the flame back and forth over that area while you twirl the Vapcap with the other hand. Twirl or rotate one hand while moving the other in an zig zag fashion. This covers the same area as the multi jet lighters but it with a slower, more gentle heat.
I always start by heating the bottom half of the cap and move to the middle then the top half with the second and third cycles. I find this maintains an even heat, flavorful vapor and a high rather than stoned result.
Higher temps obtained from more prolonged or targeted heating at the bottom of the cap will get you a more stoned sedated high.
I would recommend to any new Vapcap owner to begin with a multi jet lighter and to develop their technique from there. There are a million ways to get there. The Vapcap is incredibly versatile and individual. You have to find your best technique. But the fun is in the finding.
There is one oring at the mouthpiece end and another place between the mouthpiece and the air intake hole in the stem. This position allows air to enter the intake, travel down to the tip where it makes a 180° turn creating turbulence as it mixes with and helps pull vapor from the chamber through the condenser.
If you prefer not to use the air intake, you can block it with an oring instead of your finger to create greater resistance wonderful for mouthpulling and a thicker vapor.
To move the oring:
- remove the cap from the tip.
- twist gently as you pull the tip from the stem.
- use the digger outter on the cap to push the condenser out of the stem.
- notice the location of the air intake on the stem in relation to the location of the middle oring on the condenser.
- move the middle oring lower on the condenser so that it is positioned between the air intake and the tip end of the stem.
- lubricate the springs with a bit of spit or hemp oil etc. and reindeer the condenser into the stem.
- push twist the tip into the stem and replace cap.
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Drama
In all seriousness though I can see both sides.
There's no need to trouble George over something trivial. Especially at such a stressful time for their small company with the release of the M and in the run up to 4/20.
However, that point was made in kind of a mean way: 'As I'm a grown person capable of figuring things out, I did so'. I've suffered with depression and it's truly awful, and you can't tell people's disposition from a forum so just be sound to everyone just in case.
Peace and love, there's enough assholes in the world without us stoners turning on one another.
You are all correct, and I am sorry, @Alexis.
I can be an ass, and this was one of those times. I too, am a fan of Dynavap, and as someone who deals with customer service a lot, am probably over-sensitive in the direction of those trying to provide it. Needless or breathless complaints and/or questions are almost impossible to deal with positively from that perspective, and I'd hate to see them bogged down with that type of thing. That's all.
Vape on, please, and don't mind me when I'm in crabby old man mode.
Squiby
Well-Known Member
Sometimes the Omni needs to be broken in.... if you are twisting the mouthpiece of an assembled Omni and your airflow does not move from completely open to completely cut off, then you may need to adjust the condenser/mp outside the body.
- pull the mouthpiece and condenser out of the body.
- unscrew the mp from the condenser so that it resembles the image below on the far right. Unscrew it as far as it will go without becoming disconnected.
You can see the threaded condenser tube by itself below as well as fully threaded into the mouthpiece and mostly threaded out.
Reinsert the condenser and mp into the body making sure the mp is pushed tight to the body. This should effectively block the air intake as the now longer condenser will go father up into the neck of the tip sealing it off.
I hope this works for you.
Melting Pot
Sick & Twisted
Recliner mode
Edit am I the only one who torches while hitting.
Sometimes after the first click,not getting nice vapor only terps. So rather than wait for cool down click. I'll just hit with torch while spinning and hitting. Kick it ip a bit.
Must careful not to over torch. Im using single flame so I feel like I have good control.
I'm loving my vc so far no complaints.
Except I don't have enough.
Edit am I the only one who torches while hitting.
Sometimes after the first click,not getting nice vapor only terps. So rather than wait for cool down click. I'll just hit with torch while spinning and hitting. Kick it ip a bit.
Must careful not to over torch. Im using single flame so I feel like I have good control.
I'm loving my vc so far no complaints.
Except I don't have enough.
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@Melting Pot I torch sometimes when running through water as well. Some strains don't wanna give up the goodies so easily and need a little extra coaxing
My OG glass Vapcap has the staggered double click when I use my single jet. I've been heating until the second click, which is a second or three past the first click. I'm not really sure where that puts the temp actually at when the cap is clicking at two different temperatures?
Thank you Jedcaum for the empathy you show. I accept your apology with joy, and offer one myself. I am a very unusual, deep and highly OCD character with challenging mental health issues.
I often conduct myself innaproriately and I fully understand how irritating my thinking can be to people who who see things much more clearly.
I do feel a fool when I look back at my past expressions. I did injure my optic nerve last year and this in particular caused me major emotional problems and blurred my view of life, making it impossible to see clearly and with optimism, hence my innapropriate coping mechanism regarding my long and complex posts!
We all need to look at ourselves at times and make adjustments to how we come across, and I am currently focusing on this.
We are all on the same side. Dynavap are truly outstanding! I cant wait to get my friends aboard, but they are tough horses to lead to water though these combuster types!
I dont actually get to see them ever to sit down and socialise due to illness, so I have not had a chance to get them to try my Omnivap, I am just persuading as best I can from a distance!
Sneaky Pete's recent video is helpful, he does a good job at selling Dynavap,,and it is very easy to watch. I have told everybody to check it out, he makes it seem really appealing and fun!
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