Vitolo
Vaporist
I order SSV tubing direct from 7th floor, and I also use a US Plastic food/beverage grade silicone.... and also a medical grade one.
I opt for the official SSV/DBV tubing for my own personal use EVERY time.
It is a specially made extra soft silicone, ordered by 7th floor. They had to order enough of it to go around the earth 9 times to have the stuff manufactured.
Here you see one of the Silicon-Tygon SSV/DBV drawers in my Tubing/Whip replacement/repair station.
These are:
Tygon Beverage Tubing 3/8" I.D. 1/2" O.D. and 1/16" wall
Tygon Medical Tubing 3/8" I.D. 1/2" O.D. and 1/16" wall
and SSV Tubing.
I have tested each, and the SSV tubing cleans the easiest, gets less yellowed with time, smells less, is softer and does not harden.
I actually have my original SSV tubing on my main SSV unit. It is 2 years old, and has been cleaned weekly with Iso, followed by dish soap and hot water.
You will see that the "wand" end is yellowed from daily use over two years, but it is clean.
I have in that two years thrown away, and watched crack or destroy before my eyes every other kind of tubing including medical grade tubing (which I use to repair other peoples stuff when they request it.. but it sits in my home unused!).
So... the bottom line is-
In my opinion... if you want the safest and best whip for vaping... the longest lasting, easiest to keep..
SSV/DBV official tubing is best, and I own and have used them all.
I opt for the official SSV/DBV tubing for my own personal use EVERY time.
It is a specially made extra soft silicone, ordered by 7th floor. They had to order enough of it to go around the earth 9 times to have the stuff manufactured.
Here you see one of the Silicon-Tygon SSV/DBV drawers in my Tubing/Whip replacement/repair station.
These are:
Tygon Beverage Tubing 3/8" I.D. 1/2" O.D. and 1/16" wall
Tygon Medical Tubing 3/8" I.D. 1/2" O.D. and 1/16" wall
and SSV Tubing.
I have tested each, and the SSV tubing cleans the easiest, gets less yellowed with time, smells less, is softer and does not harden.
I actually have my original SSV tubing on my main SSV unit. It is 2 years old, and has been cleaned weekly with Iso, followed by dish soap and hot water.
You will see that the "wand" end is yellowed from daily use over two years, but it is clean.
I have in that two years thrown away, and watched crack or destroy before my eyes every other kind of tubing including medical grade tubing (which I use to repair other peoples stuff when they request it.. but it sits in my home unused!).
So... the bottom line is-
In my opinion... if you want the safest and best whip for vaping... the longest lasting, easiest to keep..
SSV/DBV official tubing is best, and I own and have used them all.
Vitolo
Vaporist
cluffy, you will notice there on my oldest tube.. that it is on a bong.
That tube is 1 foot less than the standard 3 foot tube.
That was my hand held whip.
After a year and a half of service, it got the first 1 foot chopped off the yellowest end, and was relegated to assignment at the bong. (Believe it or not, the foot that I cut off still gets used for other duties!)
So I like you, recommend a shorter path when adding glass to the equation!
That tube is 1 foot less than the standard 3 foot tube.
That was my hand held whip.
After a year and a half of service, it got the first 1 foot chopped off the yellowest end, and was relegated to assignment at the bong. (Believe it or not, the foot that I cut off still gets used for other duties!)
So I like you, recommend a shorter path when adding glass to the equation!
cluffy
Vaker
Vito, i was doing some housecleaning and i came across your card. Very cool. Let me know if you decide you need employees... :-P http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tell...t=25&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:25&tx=109&ty=35
Vitolo
Vaporist
I wanted to show you one use for my spare pieces of SSV tubing.
I NEVER blow into the mouthpiece to get rid of ABV from wand.. This adds moisture into tube and wand .. causing condensation, and adds moisture to the collecting oils. Also it blows moisture into your screen, making the duffy stuff in the next wandful adhere even worse, leading to further wandhash buildup (wandhash is fun, but we want clear good hits now also!)
I do not mind getting ABV or "particles" in my mouth, even though I hear some of you hate it. I just chew and swallow.
Once in a while the wand is too hot for my lips to clear that last debris.
This video I just did shows how I use the tube piece to accomplish this ( I also show my "upward stir"
The video below was made with my new sony camera, with built in mike. I was not attempting to hide my face like the many "pot videos" out there do.. as I am a legal patient and have nothing to hide. It simply was my 1st attempt at making a video with this 2 week old camera. I sat it down on the table near my SSV, sat in front of it and I touched "go".. I did not plan on chopping off my own head!
Touch the image to see the vid
I NEVER blow into the mouthpiece to get rid of ABV from wand.. This adds moisture into tube and wand .. causing condensation, and adds moisture to the collecting oils. Also it blows moisture into your screen, making the duffy stuff in the next wandful adhere even worse, leading to further wandhash buildup (wandhash is fun, but we want clear good hits now also!)
I do not mind getting ABV or "particles" in my mouth, even though I hear some of you hate it. I just chew and swallow.
Once in a while the wand is too hot for my lips to clear that last debris.
This video I just did shows how I use the tube piece to accomplish this ( I also show my "upward stir"
The video below was made with my new sony camera, with built in mike. I was not attempting to hide my face like the many "pot videos" out there do.. as I am a legal patient and have nothing to hide. It simply was my 1st attempt at making a video with this 2 week old camera. I sat it down on the table near my SSV, sat in front of it and I touched "go".. I did not plan on chopping off my own head!
Touch the image to see the vid
WatTyler
Revolting Peasant
Maybe things have changed at 7th floor vito? The last tubing I bought (some of their black coloured stuff) was definitely not silicon and was vinyl 
. Their sales blurb still says;
edit, Also seen this in the SSV description
. Their sales blurb still says;but that might not be up to date.7th floor website said:
edit, Also seen this in the SSV description
Vitolo
Vaporist
It has not changed.
It is far better than silicone, because it is material that they had formulated and specially manufactured for 7th Floor.
Here is an article that discusses the difference between these two very acceptable whip materials.
Silicone vs. Vinyl
If you read the whole thing you will learn about features of each, and realize that vinyl can be used as a base, but that silicone is flexible in a very special way.
This will account for why the material was referred to as vinyl in the "contents".
It stands to reason that since this tubing was specially manufactured for 7th Floor, that it uses components of both vinyl and silicone, since these components are VERY closely tied, and chemically compatible to create the best and safest tube for use of this nature
It is far better than silicone, because it is material that they had formulated and specially manufactured for 7th Floor.
Here is an article that discusses the difference between these two very acceptable whip materials.
Silicone vs. Vinyl
If you read the whole thing you will learn about features of each, and realize that vinyl can be used as a base, but that silicone is flexible in a very special way.
This will account for why the material was referred to as vinyl in the "contents".
It stands to reason that since this tubing was specially manufactured for 7th Floor, that it uses components of both vinyl and silicone, since these components are VERY closely tied, and chemically compatible to create the best and safest tube for use of this nature
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charliedontsurf
Medical
Cluffy, thanks for the kind words, I really do need to mosey down to the chat one of these days.
Great info on the tubing, Vitolo. I really do prefer the silicone for its kink-free nature but it's hard to argue with the durability the 7th floor tubing seems to boast.
Great info on the tubing, Vitolo. I really do prefer the silicone for its kink-free nature but it's hard to argue with the durability the 7th floor tubing seems to boast.
Hopefully someone can help me out with this. I searched, but couldn't find anything on this same issue.
My buddha has recently stopped working. The light on the back is still on when plugged in and turned on, but it fails to heat at all. I emailed customercare@7thfloor.biz on Monday about the issue, but am still waiting on a response.
If anyone has any experience on this issue or advice I would appreciate it
My buddha has recently stopped working. The light on the back is still on when plugged in and turned on, but it fails to heat at all. I emailed customercare@7thfloor.biz on Monday about the issue, but am still waiting on a response.
If anyone has any experience on this issue or advice I would appreciate it
akwardsauce
gold all in my chains...dont believe me just watch
livegreen said:Hopefully someone can help me out with this. I searched, but couldn't find anything on this same issue.
My buddha has recently stopped working. The light on the back is still on when plugged in and turned on, but it fails to heat at all. I emailed customercare@7thfloor.biz on Monday about the issue, but am still waiting on a response.
If anyone has any experience on this issue or advice I would appreciate it
i never got replies either, but i heard that theres a rep on here named silversurferchris or something like that (look like a page back or so & it is mentioned by vito) & maybe he can help. lemme know how that goes btw cuz i havent done that yet.
thx
Hi Guys,
I am trying to decide between buying a vaper tamer (fatty or saturn) versus a water filter (say 4 or 6 percolators) for my DBV and I'm not sure which way to go. Has anyone had experience with both? I just want to cool the hits so that my mouth and throat are not so dry after I vape.
What are your thoughts on the water filter versus the vapor tamer? (I would imagine the water filter might be healthier on the lungs versus the vapor tamer?)
Thanks a lot!!
I am trying to decide between buying a vaper tamer (fatty or saturn) versus a water filter (say 4 or 6 percolators) for my DBV and I'm not sure which way to go. Has anyone had experience with both? I just want to cool the hits so that my mouth and throat are not so dry after I vape.
What are your thoughts on the water filter versus the vapor tamer? (I would imagine the water filter might be healthier on the lungs versus the vapor tamer?)
Thanks a lot!!
biojuggernaut
Snob
go with water. I own an illy coil and glyncerine tubes are a lot of drag.
akwardsauce
gold all in my chains...dont believe me just watch
if u go the water route, u always have a choice to fill with water or use dry...if that helps...
charliedontsurf
Medical
I have the small vapor tamer, and while I like it, it only really stays cool for 10-25 minutes, and that alone makes it a headache. The extra drag is noticeable but not offensive - I still clear through the tamer without an issue. The new ones are larger and carry more glycerine in the hopes they stay cold longer, but I haven't tired them yet.
If by "water filter" you mean a proper glass bong or bubbler, then I think these are better things to invest your money in than a tamer.
If by "water filter" you mean a proper glass bong or bubbler, then I think these are better things to invest your money in than a tamer.
Vitolo
Vaporist
Hate to throw another opinion in there.. But..
I have all the water tools, and a couple of bongs.
I use the Fatty Vapor tamer.
I use the Vapor tamer to cool hits more often than the water attachments 10-1
all a matter of taste. The Vapor tamer lets the vapor taste richer, and thicker, than water.
To each his own!
edit...
I am itching to get the Saturn Vapor Tamer!
I have all the water tools, and a couple of bongs.
I use the Fatty Vapor tamer.
I use the Vapor tamer to cool hits more often than the water attachments 10-1
all a matter of taste. The Vapor tamer lets the vapor taste richer, and thicker, than water.
To each his own!
edit...
I am itching to get the Saturn Vapor Tamer!
cluffy
Vaker
It's true that the Vapor Tamer doesn't stay cold for as long as I'd like, but ten minutes is plenty long enough to get where I want to be. I have the Fatty and it does stay cool for longer, but the first 10 minutes are the best. I think it's less hassle than a bong because you don't have to deal with ice and/or water, just pull it out of the freezer and it's ready to go! Also I think it cools hits more than any ice bong I've ever used. As a friend said on his first try with it, "Wow, it's even harder to tell you're getting vapor!"
BTW, my Saturn is on its way...
BTW, my Saturn is on its way...
cluffy
Vaker
YOU can't wait Vito... !!! 
mraya,
I don't get a dry throat from anything so I can't comment on that, but I do believe the coolness of the VT condenses the vapor so it's not as dry. It feels more moist anyway. It's just a theory, but I'm happy.
Oh, and you should use the <edit> button to keep from making back to back posts, the mods frown on it. Funny, I just back to backed earlier, but they were over 12 hours apart and i was just excited about my Saturn!!!!
mraya,
I don't get a dry throat from anything so I can't comment on that, but I do believe the coolness of the VT condenses the vapor so it's not as dry. It feels more moist anyway. It's just a theory, but I'm happy.
Oh, and you should use the <edit> button to keep from making back to back posts, the mods frown on it. Funny, I just back to backed earlier, but they were over 12 hours apart and i was just excited about my Saturn!!!!
Hi all, have had my DBV for about 6 months and I love it. I can't believe how cost effective it is. This is my first post, and all I want is someone to post their impartial review of the Saturn Vapor Tamer. I want to pull the trigger, but I want to hear from someone who has it already!
Thanks!
Thanks!