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CCA Liger banger V3.0

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by mrbonsai420, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. dizaster096

    dizaster096 Well-Known Member

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    :cry::cry::cry::cry:
     
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  2. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    @Monsoon...heartfelt condolences! Why just the sapphire!? Shit happens....
     
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  3. ccchase420

    ccchase420 TheCCC420 YouTuber

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    was just talking to Josh earlier about taking care of the sapphire and he mentioned cracking an insert for testing purposes with water at vaping temp..i can totally picture this happening too..sorry to hear man. big lesson for next time eh?
     
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  4. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Ugh bro I cringed when I read this! So sorry to read it! Damn! As someone who has had broken sapphire before, you have my commiserations!
     
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  5. Monsoon

    Monsoon Well-Known Member

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    I learn from all my tragic lessons and stupid mistakes, just would have been nice to have had more time with it. The insert should withstand a bit more than D-Nail's due to its design but otherwise most of their care instructions should apply.

    It should only happen to people once, either because they can't afford to replace it or they're extra careful if they do.
     
  6. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed bro, you know I've said for a very long time that under no circumstances would I allow water to hit my hot sapphire nail (neither the Liger nor D-nail sapphire!). Thermal shock is the main weakness of sapphire compared to other materials. If there is no thermal shock exposure nor just plain old physical impact to the dish, it should be safe.

    You could not have more accurately summarized the position we find ourselves in when we break sapphire than you did above lol, man am I fucking careful with anything sapphire after the first one!

    I'm about to check out the SiC insert for the first time myself actually, I switched to SiC for moral support bro, I gotcha back lol! ;)

    First impressions on SiC insert:

    Haven't got temp ideally dialled in yet, I tried a dab of full melt at 610f. Tasty, but nowhere near as nice as sapphire at 620-640f. The insert also seems noticeably smaller than the titanium banger and really rattles about in there when qtipping and applying the dab. It is kind of unnerving hearing the clinking noise when this happens! I have to keep reminding myself that it is not quartz lol.

    Taste reminds me of my SiC halo, again I think the differences here are minimal aside from form factor, but I'll keep trying it out for a little while to get a better chance to form an opinion.

    Second thoughts: I jacked the temp up a little to around 640f, got one of those huge thick whitewall rips we all know and love from SiC nails. Delicious taste, not as good as sapphire, but better than 610f (go figure!). Definitely enjoying this one, rattling is my only gripe (not a huge one, it isn't exactly fragile lol). Cannot fault anything else about it, tastes every bit as great as the SiC halo but with a much bigger dish for those who want to dab big or really see the hit and get great pictures of it :D
     
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  7. Monsoon

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    Haha thanks bud! I took a closer look at it and most of the cracks are internal but it's not usable anymore. I'll try to get a pic up later.

    There must be some minor variance in the inserts since my SiC is actually a bit tight and the sapphire was looser. As long as the Ti is built to spec you could maybe get a second one and ask him to check the fit first. Mine got a bit stuck but I just needed to rock it a bit and it popped out.
     
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  8. dizaster096

    dizaster096 Well-Known Member

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    V3 Master hurricane carb cap ordered. :D
     
  9. Monsoon

    Monsoon Well-Known Member

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    So I'm really starting to milk it now around 640F. I start with a minimal draw and zig-zag my dabber across the surface, then cap it and inhale hard. With use my hurricane now has a bit of a reclaim film which is actually giving me a better seal so there's some incentive not to keep it too clean.

    I've also been using my D-Nail fork dabber mainly since it's longer. While it does screw in enough, you need to be careful not to turn it the wrong way since it won't take much for it to fall to the ground.
     
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  10. DrSteez

    DrSteez Well-Known Member

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  11. Danksta

    Danksta Well-Known Member

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    My condolences :rip:
     
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  12. brucee10

    brucee10 Well-Known Member

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    Is there a timeline for the Storm Cell caps?
     
  13. mrbonsai420

    mrbonsai420 Accessory Maker

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    I'm so sorry! At least Thermal Shock doesn't effect the SiC like it does the sapphire. I wonder if it would still work until it falls apart? I noticed some of the cracked Halo users were able to still dab off of theirs for a short time until it fell apart. Is yours still in 1 piece?

    Umm, kinda? I have them all and I could line them up for you. The Gen 1 is at my sisters, it has the Ghetto font Script CCA on it :rofl: (Old Logo) and then while there were only a few production versions after that there were several Betas in between as well.

    Here are some of the old guys from Gen 1-Gen 2.5 . No Honey hole cap in the pic since it never went into production, but is was a cool idea.
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    And Gen 3's here
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  14. Monsoon

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    If it were still perfectly smooth and completely internal I'd try it but it's not so I'm not comfortable using it and possibly risking it getting stuck. I'm also thinking it may affect thermal conductivity too.

    I think he meant the timeline for shipping, but it's cool to see them all lined up like that.
     
  15. mrbonsai420

    mrbonsai420 Accessory Maker

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    Haha, oooh. That timeline. I'll ask
     
  16. brucee10

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    I liked the lineup none the less.
     
  17. LazyIdol

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    I was told to expect my SiC insert somtime next week. Josh said the storm cell might not be finished in time for that to arrive in the same package so I would guess at least 1-2weeks on storm cells
     
  18. Monsoon

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    Bit the bullet and ordered a new sapphire insert, didn't want to wait as I can see them selling out if I do. I can already see this replacing my D-Nail Halo for everyday use so I should be able to get my use out of it barring another incident.
     
  19. Cannabis Connoisseur

    Cannabis Connoisseur I LOVE LIFE

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    Way to go
     
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  20. alittledabwilldoya'

    alittledabwilldoya' Sapphire Powered Dabstronaut.

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    Since you have another on the way ... did you take a picture of the fallen warrior?

    Agreed.
     
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  21. herbivore21

    herbivore21 Well-Known Member

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    I'd do the same bro, can't do without sapphire! Do you still have your sapphire halo in the meantime while you wait for that shipping? I can't remember lol
     
  22. Monsoon

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    Still have it but with the SiC insert I don't feel a need to hook it up.

    Here they are. Nearly all the cracks are internal but they go almost all the way through.

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  23. Danksta

    Danksta Well-Known Member

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    That makes me wanna weep. Very very said sight. I hope no young children had to see the accident. That could scar a child.
     
  24. herbivore21

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    Holy shit bro, you didn't do a half-assed job breaking that one!

    Probably still usable but I would be hesitant too. If it breaks up more, you might be sucking broken bits of sapphire into your rig (which are bio-compatible; as much as razor sharp, harder than glass - also harder than a boro rig, yikes - shards of sapphire can be).
     
  25. GSR

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    Lol im ngl... I thought you were tripping till i tested my flow adjuster with a light and realized the order of holes open for mine is also 4-1-2-3

    Liger... why do you make it harder for us to figure you out?!? Lmao I swear its like a little puzzle, with the reward being a nice dab :ko:

    my condolences for your insert btw. I would've been devastated lol
     

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