Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[nosmoking]

That was nice @disGRUNTled , heard him mention BigL , grew up listening to him. Like the setup . Got some Sic & Handle Porn :

What sic dish is that? It looks like the TAG one but I cant recall which one you got.

 

[Justpassedu]

What sic dish is that? It looks like the TAG one but I cant recall which one you got.

It's the Tag

 

[nosmoking]

The difference between cleaning the SiC dish from TAG and DNail is night and day. I would often, like once ir twice a week, have to scrape the TAG dish because it would get build up at the base of the walls. I still liked it better than quartz personally, but the DNail sic dish is just so much better. I did not believe there could be such a difference. The Dnail has many differences though and performs and cleans so much better than the TAG sic dish. I wonder how the New Vape SIC dish compares. The picture makes it look more designed like the TAG version but with shorter walls like the Dnail version. The Dnail version has a beveled floor to wall condition that helps keep your conc from pooling around the edges like it does on the TAG dish. It looks like the New Vape version is flat to flat or perfectly 90 degrees which would not be good. Anyone have one yet that can confirm?

 

[Justpassedu]

The difference between cleaning the SiC dish from TAG and DNail is night and day. I would often, like once ir twice a week, have to scrape the TAG dish because it would get build up at the base of the walls. I still liked it better than quartz personally, but the DNail sic dish is just so much better. I did not believe there could be such a difference. The Dnail has many differences though and performs and cleans so much better than the TAG sic dish. I wonder how the New Vape SIC dish compares. The picture makes it look more designed like the TAG version but with shorter walls like the Dnail version. The Dnail version has a beveled floor to wall condition that helps keep your conc from pooling around the edges like it does on the TAG dish. It looks like the New Vape version is flat to flat or perfectly 90 degrees which would not be good. Anyone have one yet that can confirm?

The Newvape Sic dish is the Tag , i told you that in the previous post like you had asked . I am sure you would be able to fit the Dnail Sic dish on the Fp also. Personally for the price they charge for there dish i am happy with what i already have.

 

[nosmoking]

The Newvape Sic dish is the Tag , i told you that in the previous post like you had asked . I am sure you would be able to fit the Dnail Sic dish on the Fp also. Personally for the price they charge for there dish i am happy with what i already have.

Sorry, I didnt recall our previous conversation. Been half asleep for the past couple monthes or so...narcolepsy is a destructive bitch on my short term memory.

 

[anasrzi]

As the NV SiC dish is from tag and you've tried both versions (dnail + tag) @nosmoking apart from the cleaning aspect you've already gone into is there anything else you can comment on either good or bad in comparison?

If it's solely a negative mark against tag SiC dish for its need of cleaning then I'd still go for the tag version as I know it fits everything from flower pot. I'm aiming at flavour preservation and enjoyment over the Quartz ultimately, however for a extra $10 I'd get either a Quartz or SiC with my order.

Wonder if NV will ultimately do a sapphire dish!!! Now there's a idea .

 

[Likes2vape]

That was nice @disGRUNTled , heard him mention BigL , grew up listening to him. Like the setup . Got some Sic & Handle Porn :

That's a sweet looking drop down! How you liking the handle so far. Looks like my fp will be here today but my enail won't be here until Monday. Bummed I have to wait until Monday

Do you think the lollipop carb cap would be big enough to use on the d-nail sic dish?

 

[buckhakeesah]

Wow, I got rid of my Liger V3 yesterday to join you guys here since I saw NV came with the SiC dish option. I'm hoping this was good trade off for me. Anyone with both care to share their experiences between the two to help me not regret my decision hehee

 

[Justpassedu]

That's a sweet looking drop down! How you liking the handle so far. Looks like my fp will be here today but my enail won't be here until Monday. Bummed I have to wait until Monday

Do you think the lollipop carb cap would be big enough to use on the d-nail sic dish?

Ty buddy , excited to hear your thoughts on FP , I love mine so much i kinda want a Hex Nail now to make the ultimate setup but they are pricey. Maybe i'll sell a Herbalizer to fund one soon. I am liking the handle allot , makes it allot easier for me just to dump and reload without having to wait , even though i only had to really wait under a minute for it to cool. It's allot easier bc now instead of loading the bowl up for a few hits in a row i been just loading enough for one tasty rip and than reloading a fresh one after. Hope your Enail comes soon . I am not sure if the lollicap will fit over the d-nail , i don't own one and have never tried it. sorry.

Wow, I got rid of my Liger V3 yesterday to join you guys here since I saw NV came with the SiC dish option. I'm hoping this was good trade off for me. Anyone with both care to share their experiences between the two to help me not regret my decision hehee

I have not tried the Liger but hear from the people that own them on the forum that it is a great setup. The Fp probably has a smaller dish and that can be a trade off but it is way more versatile and while the Liger only works with concentrate , the Fp can do flowers as well and do it all at a fraction of the price. I think you should be really happy with the setup. It's really great to have a vape that does it all and does it all well , one of my new favorite devices for vaping flower and trying double deckers when i really need to get obliterated .

 

[buckhakeesah]

Thanks for the feedback @Justpassedu

The problem for me is I have a double decker device to keep me happy on that front already, the one that swirls the material for you while you draw, but that is direct on Ti, if I choose to do it. I'm hoping to use this as my dedicated SiC dish experience with squished stuff. I'm on preorder with Hex which was going to run my liger , but its now gonna be the NV. Maybe I'll wait to see what everyone's thoughts are on this latest SiC before committing.

 

[SoDelicious]

Any comparison conclusion yet?

yes, after lots and lots of testing I think I may retire my sublimator apollo for the NV flower pot!

Effects and clouds density are basically the same once all temps are dialled. However, from my recent sessions the FP is currently producing slightly thicker and more clouds at 660 on the HN and setting 8 on the sublimator using loads of 0.25-0.10.

Since I don't use huge loads I bend my screen into a bowl and put it down the middle of the flower holder. Doing this helps with uneven heating of herbs on the sides.

The FP seems to pull air directly straight down from the heating head. This seems lead to uneven heating of the herbs on the outer edges when not putting the screen down the middle of the flower holder section. This may just be because I was using too high temps scorching the middle.

Most of the other expensive dry herb vapes seem to have a "whirlwind" affect. I'm sure a little design update to the heating head is possible for the FP since everything is modular. I think this would possibly help with uneven heating of herbs.

I had a problem with my quartz head and Edwyn promptly contacted me and sent me a replacement free of charge!

Absolutely one of the best qc and customer service experiences I have ever had.

Compared to sublimator when I was sent a scratched product which I pointed out to them RIGHT after the mailman delievered the package (i was eagerly waiting for the apollo for a week). After about 30 minutes of sending the email I received a phonecall telling me all units are hand assembled and inspected before delivery (obviously not).

I was instructed to send my Apollo back to their warehouse which I did. After a week the same Apollo was returned with a note sayung that I had damaged the product and it could not be returned.

At that point I already waited long enough so I just decided to use the Apollo which functions perfect. Also, it is worth noting I live about a 20 minute drive from where they ship their heating heads but I still had to wait a week. :/

So, to in sum everything up I whole heartedly recommend the NV FP over the sublimator.

Works and functions basically the same, nv customer service and quality control is so much better, nv comes with constant updates to their products and lastly the price for the flowerpot can't be beat!

 

[Justpassedu]

yes, after lots and lots of testing I think I may retire my sublimator apollo for the NV flower pot!

Effects and clouds density are basically the same once all temps are dialled. However, from my recent sessions the FP is currently producing slightly thicker and more clouds at 660 on the HN and setting 8 on the sublimator using loads of 0.25-0.10.

Since I don't use huge loads I bend my screen into a bowl and put it down the middle of the flower holder. Doing this helps with uneven heating of herbs on the sides.

The FP seems to pull air directly straight down from the heating head. This seems lead to uneven heating of the herbs on the outer edges when not putting the screen down the middle of the flower holder section. This may just be because I was using too high temps scorching the middle.

Most of the other expensive dry herb vapes seem to have a "whirlwind" affect. I'm sure a little design update to the heating head is possible for the FP since everything is modular. I think this would possibly help with uneven heating of herbs.

I had a problem with my quartz head and Edwyn promptly contacted me and sent me a replacement free of charge!

Absolutely one of the best qc and customer service experiences I have ever had.

Compared to sublimator when I was sent a scratched product which I pointed out to them RIGHT after the mailman delievered the package (i was eagerly waiting for the apollo for a week). After about 30 minutes of sending the email I received a phonecall telling me all units are hand assembled and inspected before delivery (obviously not).

I was instructed to send my Apollo back to their warehouse which I did. After a week the same Apollo was returned with a note sayung that I had damaged the product and it could not be returned.

At that point I already waited long enough so I just decided to use the Apollo which functions perfect. Also, it is worth noting I live about a 20 minute drive from where they ship their heating heads but I still had to wait a week. :/

So, to in sum everything up I whole heartedly recommend the NV FP over the sublimator.

Works and functions basically the same, nv customer service and quality control is so much better, nv comes with constant updates to their products and lastly the price for the flowerpot can't be beat!

Amazing , another satisfied customer. So happy you like it , please post some pics when you can. Those hex nails are real nice also and I heard they been optimizing it for the Flowerpot.

 

[anasrzi]

I got a nice reply back from edwyn over at NV after a little nudge from @Justpassedu he confirmed he ships to the u.k and Europe as a whole and for a very reasonable price as well I must add, he's even gifted me (and anyone else more than likely)a 10% discount code with any order, can't say fairer than that can you.

He's very surprised news of the twax has gone across the pond in such a way, to my mind it's a no brainer. I have purchased both the milaana and supreme from RBT and ed respectively before as I feel you north Americans are a fair bit ahead of most in terms of making and creating vaporisers, enail etc.

I've just asked about a sapphire dish now too, a little presumptuous I guess as the SiC has just been released but hey it's a idea for the future. Don't think much can compete flavour wise to sapphire right now and it's cool to be cutting edge .

 

[MileHighHuman]

yes, after lots and lots of testing I think I may retire my sublimator apollo for the NV flower pot!

Effects and clouds density are basically the same once all temps are dialled. However, from my recent sessions the FP is currently producing slightly thicker and more clouds at 660 on the HN and setting 8 on the sublimator using loads of 0.25-0.10.

Since I don't use huge loads I bend my screen into a bowl and put it down the middle of the flower holder. Doing this helps with uneven heating of herbs on the sides.

The FP seems to pull air directly straight down from the heating head. This seems lead to uneven heating of the herbs on the outer edges when not putting the screen down the middle of the flower holder section. This may just be because I was using too high temps scorching the middle.

Most of the other expensive dry herb vapes seem to have a "whirlwind" affect. I'm sure a little design update to the heating head is possible for the FP since everything is modular. I think this would possibly help with uneven heating of herbs.

I had a problem with my quartz head and Edwyn promptly contacted me and sent me a replacement free of charge!

Absolutely one of the best qc and customer service experiences I have ever had.

Compared to sublimator when I was sent a scratched product which I pointed out to them RIGHT after the mailman delievered the package (i was eagerly waiting for the apollo for a week). After about 30 minutes of sending the email I received a phonecall telling me all units are hand assembled and inspected before delivery (obviously not).

I was instructed to send my Apollo back to their warehouse which I did. After a week the same Apollo was returned with a note sayung that I had damaged the product and it could not be returned.

At that point I already waited long enough so I just decided to use the Apollo which functions perfect. Also, it is worth noting I live about a 20 minute drive from where they ship their heating heads but I still had to wait a week. :/

So, to in sum everything up I whole heartedly recommend the NV FP over the sublimator.

Works and functions basically the same, nv customer service and quality control is so much better, nv comes with constant updates to their products and lastly the price for the flowerpot can't be beat!

Odd that you find the FlowerPot is better when it doesnt heat the herbs as evenly.

Imagine how good it'd be if it did. The correct vortex/airflow is very important in vaporization.

Which vaporizer has less restriction when inhaling?

 

[SoDelicious]

Odd that you find the FlowerPot is better when it doesnt heat the herbs as evenly.

Imagine how good it'd be if it did. The correct vortex/airflow is very important in vaporization.

Which vaporizer has less restriction when inhaling?

Yeah, the uneven heating issue only occurs when I use larger loads of 0.1+. I usually use around 0.025- 0.050 which all fits perfectly in the middle of the flower holder part.

I think it would be a game changer when the vortex option is added .

Also, the FP has much less restriction without the lollicap on. With the cap on the restriction is the same however with the lollicap you can control restriction

 

[Hogni]

You are right, there is a venturi effect. But I believe SoDelicious didn't mean that he regards to the D-Nail Lotus Flower Adapter where construction is leading to an air whirl in the herb chamber which is constantly whirling and mixing the herbs.
Look at some vids of the Lotus FA in use. Effects are very impressive and seem to make sense.

 

[anasrzi]

Don't mean to get everyone's hopes up but I got a email from edwyn about a sapphire dish!!! He's looking into it for the flowerpot in the near future, if it can be done (and we all know anything can be achieved with dedication and mental fortitude) then it will be in the pipeline.

Man I don't even own a FP or anything from newvape but I'm mighty excited about the future .

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Edwyn here, I'm thrilled to read all the comments about our FlowerPot. Use "twaxvapor" for 10% off coupon code. We have decided to try a factory direct approach and keep the prices as low as possible for the flowerpot product line. Unfortunately this will exclude distributors and retailers from ever selling these products. Your patience is appreciated as we learn are way around the eCommerce and international shipping challenges. Not all coils and enail controllers heat the flowerpot the same. Any 16mm coil setups will work but one can't compare temp settings unless using the same exact coil and controller setup. We don't ship the coils and controllers outside US and Canada because of the 240V power requirements. We will be demonstrating the FlowerPot and Micro20 Rosin press at the Nor-Cal Cannabis cup jun 3-4. My email is ed@newvape.com should you prefer to contact me there. For order status please email sales@newvape.com

 

[Hogni]

@NewVape710 Hi Ed, thanks for your update! In case of exclusive factory direct approach moderate shipping costs would be nice for your international customers if you should want them

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

We do want international customers. You've got my word we'll never attempt to profit from shipping.

 

[Hogni]

Glad to hear that!

 

[vaporist4LIFE]

Really thinking about just selling my current enail setup and using that to go ahead and grab this bad boy...decisions decisions ...

 

[Likes2vape]

Does anyone leave the top on the bowl for an extended period of time and use mainly as an enail? Any problems with it cracking glass since there are no heat sink fins to disipate the heat.

 

[vaporist4LIFE]

Does anyone leave the top on the bowl for an extended period of time and use mainly as an enail? Any problems with it cracking glass since there are no heat sink fins to disipate the heat.

Good question !!!
Could always use a drop down or adapter, but I would like to know what newvape 710 says about this .

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Good question !!!
Could always use a drop down or adapter, but I would like to know what newvape 710 says about this .

newVape's been manufacturing titanium nails for around 5 years and we continue to issue a warning about the possibility of heated expanding metal damaging glass rigs. Cooling fins or not metal does expands when heated. Always use a dropdown or adapter when using a MALE nail. This is what prompted the glass industry to develop the oil rigs which use male glass joints. Female nails expand outward away from the glass. This was more of a concern back in the torch days when we were heating the titanium to crazy temps. This is much less of a issue with the lower temps being used by enails. We do offer a female body for the Flowerpot and our standard enail line which is fool proof and best for leaving on top of the rig for extended periods of time. All that being said we've never had one report of our male nails cracking anyone's rig. I personally prefer the 18mm female glass and have been using the 18mm male body for over a year and never had any issues. hope this helps

@steama I love your innovation.