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Brilliant Cut Grinder

Discussion in 'Vapor Related Equipment' started by lazylathe, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    yep, good size for my liking. A bit larger than the SLX and smaller than the NV FG.
    Guess I'd like it to handle.
     
  2. stonaGrinders

    stonaGrinders Grinder Manufacturer

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    Here are some more size comparison pictures featuring more grinders (Gr8tr V2, Santa Cruz Shredder Medium 4-piece, and the SLX V2):

    The Brilliant Cut Grinder: Diameter: 2.2"
    Gr8tr V2 Dimensions: Diameter: 2.2"
    Santa Cruz Shredder Medium 4- Piece Dimensions: Diameter: 2.125″
    SLX V2 Dimensions: Diameter: 2.4"

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    The Brilliant Cut Grinder Coarse Middle Plate

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  3. Jill NYC

    Jill NYC Portable Collector

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    Thanks @stonaGrinders for pics.
    The Gr8tr 2 looks much wider in top image, but looks similar size (albeit taller) to grinders in the other pics. Is the first one an optical illusion or are the bottom two?
    Thanks!
     
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  4. stonaGrinders

    stonaGrinders Grinder Manufacturer

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    Yes, that's quite the illusion in the first picture. It's because the lens is closer to the Gr8tr. It's taller and I was angling my phone so the lens got even closer. I removed it and added some dimensions for the diameters of the grinders.
     
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  5. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    The new name and branding looks great.

    It's a lot closer in size to the large SLX than I was thinking too.

    10/10
     
  6. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Looking good!
     
  7. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Looking forward to seeing the red and green finishes once they're in from the anodiser.

    I've always wanted a green grinder, but the Sapphire blue is shit hot! Going to be hard to pick I reckon
     
  8. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Yeah. My SLX is green, so I don't necessarily need that color...but I don't have anything blue. And I really do like the sapphire blue one they've been posting as well. I'd be down for one of those!
     
  9. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    I been thinking: If you don't want to do any so-called (lid) knurling for ease of grasping when grinding, how about the silicone grinder bands? Never tried them so don't know how well they work. Well, it's a thought. :)

    :zzz:
     
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  10. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    @stonaGrinders, another thought: maybe you can pm @Stu or @pakalolo & ask to change your username to like BCG(rinders) for not only Brilliant Cut but British Columibia. That is, if you are not already licensed under this name, and choose to.
     
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  11. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @stonaGrinders Nice and neat again!

    @Summer
    Have you ever used the arm band grinder? I do not like it too much.
    It was my idea for the arm bands but it was not approached as I would have approached it.
    The bands are great for grip but when they attract herb and dirt like a swiffer duster! LOL
     
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  12. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    @lazylathe never use one designated as such, but I have a Blue Angel Remembrance Band that is a thick ,quality piece of silicone & doesn't attract lint so I tried that out. It's a medium & the 2.5" grinder could use one slightly tighter, but it works well.
     
  13. GreenHopper

    GreenHopper 20 going on 60

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    If bands are used to enhance grip then the grinder should be designed so that the bands aren't required but instead are an optional extra. That way the end user has a choice.
     
  14. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    Are there stores that sell dedicated grinder bands in different standard sizes? If not, I'm ordering a remembrance band so I'll throw in another plain band in small to check it out.
     
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  15. MoltenTiger

    MoltenTiger Well-Known Member

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    Nice, they launched the Leaf Green SLX after I got mine. And it turns out the silver is a cool gun-metal colour, which is what I wanted my charcoal to be like. So I lucked out in a couple of ways, truly negligible of course, it does do its job well. But, and I was happy to hear BCG say it when I was talking to them earlier, it does have a mildly inconsistent grind. The BCG looks to be the ticket on that front, so on top of currently having to unthread a grinder so damned often, I am super keen to upgrade not only for the magnetic hatch but to actually get a better grind. I've thought about getting a Santa Cruz Shredder for a while, but it just seems too small at 2"/50mm...

    I actually got to use a much newer SLX last night with the additional gasket on the bottom section, and it reduces the turning to access herb by a massive amount. Can't wait to irradicate it completely.


    I am interested to hear @lazylathe how does the BCG cope with one handed access etc.? I can easily get the top off my SLX one handed (say if I have a couple of buds in the other hand about to be ground).
    I think the magnet used with the BCG would be similar, but perhaps with better tolerance it will have greater strength. I can tell my magnet is weaker than the other SLX I was using but I think it has more to do with proximity than a different magnet material.

    It'd be awesome to be able to snap off the grinding section to reveal the herb with just one hand with the BCG. But a secure fit and being drop-proof takes priority.
    I think what GreenHopper said is great, and also will point out that the BCG with a flush circular outer surface will take kindly to the option of an additional silicone band.
    Having an extruded channel for silicone leads to a reliance, and I don't think I'd opt for it.
    The smooth finish will be kind on the hands, and having a secured lower/bottom section will greatly benefit the sensation of torque being applied.

    Yep.

    I've been occasionally using a FiiO mini-amp silicone band (normally used to attach an amp to a portable player), it slips and fits over the SLX almost perfectly.
    It's okay, but over time oils from hands and I guess from herb contact too permeates the material.

    Silicone is basically suited for very specific applications, and with anything to do with cannabis or long term handling, it's very much a disposable material choice and is rarely the best option.

    I saw a pic on Instagram yesterday of the Phonecian grinder, which has optional O-Rings that are intended to allow the grinder sections to be smacked together whilst protecting the anodised finish.
    I thought at the time, maybe a couple of tracks could be machined into the grip to allow for a couple of O-Rings to aid grip.
    But ultimately, I think I much prefer the idea of a flush surface
     
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  16. Mr. Gweilo 420

    Mr. Gweilo 420 Dude

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    Green for the Apple Isle?

    How about gripping this grinder? It sounds easy to turn in general.
     
  17. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    For me, my preference is still the 6mm indentations shown in my posted pics above. But how ever the design ends up, it's gonna be, rightly so, up to the mfr.
     
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  18. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    @MoltenTiger

    Sorry I forgot to reply to your question about one handed operation.

    It is possible for me to open either the lid or open the middle section to see what has been ground.
    Not easy by any means since I have quite big hands with long fingers, so once I get it in my palm my fingers are too far away from the lid to grab it and have to move the grinder up thus losing grip.
    If you are used to operating your grinder with one hand, you should have no issues opening this one.

    @Mr. Gweilo 420
    Gripping the grinder has not been an issue for me since owning this one!
    Rock hard buds obviously require a bit more initial force but regular bud grinds up nice and easy.
    No jamming, binding or twisting in my hands.
    As far as I am concerned, I do not see the benefit of added grips, knurling or silicone bands.
    They may help some people with extremely weak hands but for the most part, it works perfectly out of the box!
     
  19. stonaGrinders

    stonaGrinders Grinder Manufacturer

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    Hey guys,

    I just got the grinders back from the anodizer yesterday. I assembled a few and took some pictures. See them below.

    We've redesigned the grinder, so that it is able to produce fine, medium, and coarse grinds with a single top and 3 middle plates. We'll be sending this new design out to the beta testers and will include all 3 middle plates. We want to get feedback on each grind and build a consensus on the different grinds with your help.

    Check it out:

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    Fine Plate:
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    Medium Plate:
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    Coarse Plate:
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    Emerald Green Grinder:
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    Gun Metal or Hematite Grinder:
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    The anodizing did not go smoothly for the red grinders and they are basically scrap. 5 full grinders were ruined. They tried stripping the anodized coating and redoing it, but this screwed up the fit of the grinder and made it more matte. The quality is unacceptable and we will not be shipping out the red grinders. This is the colour that most of the beta testers chose, so we will have to machine new grinders and get them anodized again. The anodizer did not charge us anything and he will process the next batch as fast as he can. I'll be in the shop making the new grinders on Monday.

    Check out the defects:
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    We did make a Gray grinder for personal testing, but we can ship that to one of the beta testers. The lone emerald green grinder will be shipped out to @antispleen

    We are going to be trying various colours in the next batch, so the other beta testers (@lazylathe, @Summer, @szai, @paytonpenn, @MoltenTiger) can choose from the following colours: Sapphire Blue, Ruby Red, Topaz Orange, Pink, Onyx Black, and Amethyst Purple

    Hopefully, we can get the new batch sent out by mid week, but we'll see. After the beta testers validate the grind quality of the coarse, medium, and fine grinds, we will start offering the grinder for sale.
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2018
  20. Ramahs

    Ramahs Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017

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    Thanks for the update. I love the colors!
     
  21. wild anchovy

    wild anchovy whilin out

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    Very exciting and the anodizing as well as the grinders look fantastic.
     
  22. virtualpurple

    virtualpurple Well-Known Member

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    @stonaGrinders you have got me quite interested with that last post.

    Can you tell me how finely you can get with the fine grind plate? I find that with several grinders that I otherwise love (my Lift grinder sticks in my head the most, I’m not trying to draw comparison!) the fine grind really is closer to a medium and it doesn’t quite get it as small as I would like.

    I want to make my next grinder purchase to be one that allows me to truly get a fine grind. Honestly I’d love it if you guys would consider making attempting to make a plate and pattern that would allow for a grind similar to a mflb finishing grinder or like ice heard folks say about the newvape grinders.

    I hope to hear back from you about it as well as to hear feedback from the beta crew if they are allowed to share their impressions. You have a very solid group!
     
  23. Summer

    Summer Well-Known Member

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    @virtualpurple, I'm guessing we're gonna be allowed to share our thoughts in real time. @stonaGrinders really wants this grinder to "be right" before release, so beta testers getting questions from people not testing, gets the b-t's to think about features that never would have occurred to them. It's a good thing.

    I just gotta know vp, what do you do with what, literally, seems to me is a powder grind? I'd have to think that this type of grind/those 2 grinders are a niche market.
     
  24. antispleen

    antispleen Hyperborean Wanderer

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    I do not take this task lightly! I have 4 strains on hand currently and am so stoked to get to testing!
     
  25. Diggy Smalls

    Diggy Smalls Notorious

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    My grinder needs replacement a replacement so badly, but I'm waiting.
     

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