Discussion in 'Portable Vaporizers' started by bluenavey00, Jan 31, 2017.
@HippyHitman It might mean the heater quit on you. Hit link to read reddit comment.
It's either I get a Dynavap nonavong and a new lighter for my caps or an Arizer Solo II. Let me ponder this for a few days.
Prior to your post I thought I remembered seeing some references to the Solo 2 having some ceramics in the vapor path and also saw some references to convection. I googled the Solo 2 and got differing information on those topics so I emailed Arizer to see what they had to say. According to Arizer the ceramic heating element is in the vapor path and they claim a good bit of convection is going on. Not sure I'd buy into the amount of convection they claim but the response relative to the ceramic heating element seems sound. I highlighted the areas of interest. Here's the email in it's entirety (Best if read bottom up):
Thank you for your email.
Our products are designed to heat your herbs/botanicals predominantly with convection heating. When you inhale from the Glass Aroma Tube fresh air is drawn in and heated as it passes through the heating element before entering the stainless steel heater bowl and Glass Aroma Tube. As hot air passes through the herbs/botanicals this releases the flavors, aromas, and active components in a cool, smooth, and tasty vapor.
The Arizer Way is packing your materials in the Glass Aroma Tubes instead of directly into an oven because it allows for removable & pre-loadable tubes, easy cleaning & maintenance, and because glass has a very low thermal conductivity. Since herbs/botanicals cannot be suspended in air without contacting any surfaces there will always be some conductive heat transfer at play. But by packing your herbs/botanicals in glass instead of a metal oven, the low thermal conductivity of glass results in very minimal and gentle conduction heat transfer, keeping your materials warm and primed, always ready for you to draw the purest and tastiest vapor on demand.
You can pack the materials in different ways to increase or decrease the level of conduction heat transfer that occurs:
For a predominantly convection experience just pack slightly less material in the Glass Aroma Tube so your herbals are elevated / never come in contact with the bottom of the stainless steel heater bowl. This way your herbals will only be heated by the hot air that is drawn through them when you inhale, and kept warm by the surrounding glass surfaces.
Using the included metal screens will slightly increase the amount of conduction heat transfer by converting heat from the air into heat transfer to and from the metal screens. Not using the metal screens will help to keep the heating predominantly convection.
For increased conduction heating, you can pack more material in the Glass Aroma Tube so your herbals come in direct contact with the bottom of the stainless steel heater bowl, so you get a combination of convection and conduction heating.
I hope this helps. If you have any further questions please feel free to ask.
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Customer wrote:
Thanks Andrew! Could I ask two more questions?
Is the Solo 2 purely a conduction vape or is there some convection going on as well?
Is the ceramic heating element in the vapor path?
From: Arizer Service <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Sun, Oct 29, 2017 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Arizer "Ceramic Heating Chamber in Solo 2? October 27, 2017 4:39 pm"
Thank you for your email.
The heating element of the Solo II is ceramic, but you cannot see the ceramic heating element because it is below the stainless steel dish.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Customer wrote:
From:Customer Subject: Ceramic Heating Chamber in Solo 2? Message Body: There are multiple internet reports regarding the Solo 2 and whether or not it is purely stainless steel relative to the heater components or is it a combination of ceramic and stainless steel. I see that the oven is definitely stainless steel so where does the ceramics come in? Thanks! This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Arizer (http://www.arizer.com)
My solo 2 arrived this morning. I'm at work but have had the better half unbox and plug it in. 8 hours charge before I get my hands on it. Perfect.
BTW Fantastic service from NamasteVapes NZ. Was watching it track from Florida thru Memphis and onto Honolulu across the Pacific to Auckland and down to my rural home near Wellington. So cool.
We don't know what the error codes mean. Only that the unit will become unusable shortly after seeing the code.
I do know that an Error5 is not the oven quitting as it will still heat up but the unit does not register the temp change and auto offs.
Instead of the reddit link just do a quick search in this thread for some reliable info (the same info the reddit posts mentions finding on FC in the first place)
To prevent any issues, use Arizer Solo II oem stems only and don't wrestle a tight stem into the bowl.
Have given the new Solo II a quick run through. I'm sure it's all been said before. It's a great update from the OG Solo.
Less draw resistance and digital temp control are great upgrades. Battery life I can't comment on but I'm sure it will be great. I did charge it for 8 hours first charge.
To get big clouds I had to push up to 220 with a packed stem but it didn't disappoint.
I did 2 - 10 minute burn offs and there was a store smell to it but no off gassing. I used an LED torch and saw nothing.
Taste was great as always. I will say I do agree with some who say the taste from the solo is 'muted'. Not in a bad way but I'm not a flavor chaser more a cloud chaser but I love sucking through glass. I'm don't use or like water filtration.
I'm very happy with my purchase. Not a cheap item in NZ dollars but you have to pay for quality and the Solo II is all class.
I just wanted to post an update, Arizer has weak customer service at best, Im disabled if you couldn't tell anyway 5 bowls into a new unit it dies and they expect me to pay to ship my unit and expect someone in my situation is crazy. I have e-mailed them and since they are not BBB accredited. Idk what to do Pax would send me a new unit and expect them to do the same. 5 fucking bowls seriously as someone who has used arizer products for over 10 years this is horrible.
@HippieHitman Sorry to hear that you have an Error and need to do a warranty replacement. (I thought the inquiry was just for knowledge, not necessity)
Have you tried getting in touch with the retailer you purchased it from?
It's not uncommon for manufactures to require you to pay shipping both ways. Retailers however, seem to go out of their way to cover those costs.
I'm not sure why/how someone's situation would play into a return policy? Should they receive special treatment?
I had to send my unit back and paid shipping, but Arizer covered the return.
It took me a week to get the post office and send my unit in.
Don't get me wrong, 5 bowls in and a defective unit is BS. I would certainly be upset.
Being an early adopter comes with its risks but you also get to be first with a product!!
About your Solo II...
What stems did you use?
Did the unit seem loose inside?
Did it error code once and never work again?
Really hoping we can get a better idea of why this is happening; I don't want to have another return.
@HippieHitman - Did you buy the unit from a reputable retailer? If you bought it from Planet of the Vapes or Puff-It-Up you'll find they are more than ready to help you and most likely without the aggravation.
Yea bought it direct from Arizer it sucks man their customer service needs a phone number, because Kevin over their is a good dude. It's just with e-mail the tech changes and can't find a number. I explained my situation to them. I mean they sent me a bunch of promotional arizer stuff because Im trying to get shops around my area to carry Arizer and this happens....its disheartening.
Dynavap all the way imo.
I started vaping with an Arizer Solo and I love it but being an ex-smoker the hits were never big or strong enough for me. If you have never smoked then I'm sure a Solo 2 will hit all the right spots.
I've smoked before but never got into it. I'm more of a vaporist for sure. I think that the Solo II will be able to satisfy all of my current needs and bench my Airs.
I was also dealing with Kevin through email. Made the process easy for me - as everyone says, he's a great guy.
I didn't realize there wasn't a customer service number. Thats really odd for a company like Arizer but I think it's also they way industry is moving.
Half the customer service lines I call have been automated mahines and the others get redirected to another country where the agent is only able to follow a script and knows virtually nothing about the products in question.
Don't give up on Arizer just yet, she you get that new unit it will exceed expectations.
After the return is competed it would be awesome if you could post the defective units serial number in this thread.
Using my Solo 2 right now and I'm absolutely loving it (as always). Don't feel like going through the process of uploading the pic so Ima just link it!
Elegant it is. I'm loving the new Solo. This is the only vape I've owned that I enjoy playing around with the temps. Normally it's set on full and chase clouds. But Solo II satisfies at lower temps.
I wouldnt go dynavap unless you have to have that "ritual" of relighting or even remotely want a session vape!
I have been using the solo since 2011 and got the solo 2 the other month and its been perfect so far.
got the dynavap "M" Because of all the hype and it did get my stoned for sure but it was a chore to use.
I ended up selling the "M" a couple weeks later and i am still using my solo 2 every day.
In fact i want to get an old style solo again because just in case something happens to this one, i sold my old arizer solo 1's to afford the 2.
Well I've used more cumbersome vapes than the M so I appreciate how easy it is to use, and I like the ritual. The Solo II will fill in a hole in my vaporizers that I need in my car for a long period of time without charging.
The M on the other hand fills in my at-home uses quite nicely because of its ability to make me choke on the vapor and the efficiency. I want it to be a little bit cooler so I'm probably going to go with an XL condenser and a spinning wood mouthpiece.
If you like their design you should use it and will probably enjoy it.
One man's clunky is another man's easy to use anyway.
I might get a M another day but i had the sandblasted one and kept thinking that i would be so mad if i lost or crushed the sandblasted cap and was stuck with one that didnt match lol. Cant deny it was efficient.
The solo 2 i charge a fraction of how often i had to charge the OG, i get several days of constant use without needing to charge, its truly impressive.
Well guys and gals, I have purchased the Solo II off of puffitup. I chose Black because I also ordered a blacked-out stem. Wanted my unit to match the glass
Plus I've owned two black OG Solo vaporizers. I wanted to reminisce in that body color
Now the waiting game begins
I went for black to. And TBH it's more dark gun metal than black but still beautiful.
So happy with this vape. So functional, incredible battery life ... like fucking amazing, easy to use, super efficient, very portable (yes it is) and the taste is great. The draw resistance can be there if you over pack but I don't mind it.
I do wonder why I see people try and recommend the Mighty or Crafty when the Solo II is mentioned. I see it online on other forums and discussion groups. Are they really that good, the Mighty or Crafty? I think it's apples and oranges. I have a CF Vape which is a poor man's Crafty and it's a really good vape. But it's so different to the Solo in so many ways making it very hard to compare. I get the Solo isn't for everyone. I know there will be times my CF will be a better choice but it does seem some peeps are just out there to bring this little guy down.
Especially after the improved battery and heater. Maybe it's the glass, it's breakable and therefore something that is not recommended for stoners
It's a good point metalknight but that's part of what makes the solo so great. And the loading is so easy. My CF is a pain in the ass to load.
I expect my Solo II here Monday, I can't wait!
I totally forgot to buy a S&B concentrate pad, though.
I have dropped a solo stem out of a car window onto concrete. I have never broken a solo stem in years. Years and years.
I have corresponded with Arizer before and they seem to be good about getting back to me when I email. I usually buy vaporizers through @PuffItUp then I know I won't have any worries.
Agreed Arizer needs a phone number. All of them do but you will find out some vaporizer companies don't have an accessible phone number for customers.
Love my Solo 2 and love the upgrades. It fits in your hand better with the oval shape too. The blue one is beautiful. I always prefer a glass air path. They need to add a couple extra colors like burgundy and a dark green.
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